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Pietenpol-List: wood packages
> Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Wayne Bressler
et>You are right, sorry for the misinformation. -----Original Message----->From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Aug 15, 2009 3:36 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages>>>Will,>>Just goes to show...a man with two watches never knows what time it is.>>Someone mentioned 16 rings/inch. AC41.13 says 6 rings/inch, minimum. I>purchased all the wood (Poplar) thru a local supplier for under $300,>although I did buy a few Poplar boards from Lowe's; true, I had to look at a>lot of pieces. Obviously, plywood is not in that total.>>Your mileage may vary.....>>Gary Boothe>Cool, Ca.>Pietenpol>WW Corvair Conversion>Tail done, Fuselage on gear>(13 ribs down.)>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42>Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:43 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages>>>Save yourself some time, headaches and money; go to Lowes or some such>hardware/lumber dealer and pick through their inventory. you may not find>what you want at the first one; just keep looking. >>Will>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 257818>>le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
et>You are right, sorry for the misinformation. -----Original Message----->From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Aug 15, 2009 3:36 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages>>>Will,>>Just goes to show...a man with two watches never knows what time it is.>>Someone mentioned 16 rings/inch. AC41.13 says 6 rings/inch, minimum. I>purchased all the wood (Poplar) thru a local supplier for under $300,>although I did buy a few Poplar boards from Lowe's; true, I had to look at a>lot of pieces. Obviously, plywood is not in that total.>>Your mileage may vary.....>>Gary Boothe>Cool, Ca.>Pietenpol>WW Corvair Conversion>Tail done, Fuselage on gear>(13 ribs down.)>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42>Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:43 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages>>>Save yourself some time, headaches and money; go to Lowes or some such>hardware/lumber dealer and pick through their inventory. you may not find>what you want at the first one; just keep looking. >>Will>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 257818>>le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Sometimes it's fun to take the project outside and bolt it together.- I made up some mock up struts and hung the wings.- Actually I had it out so that a local paper could do an article on it.- Hopefully that comes out well,... you never know.- A man driving by even stopped in to take a look and talk airplanes.- It made for a fun morning.- I've attached some pictures.- Mike Groah Tulare CA=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Sometimes it's fun to take the project outside and bolt it together.- I made up some mock up struts and hung the wings.- Actually I had it out so that a local paper could do an article on it.- Hopefully that comes out well,... you never know.- A man driving by even stopped in to take a look and talk airplanes.- It made for a fun morning.- I've attached some pictures.- Mike Groah Tulare CA=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wood packages
Original Posted By: Don Rucker
Will. Let me put it this way: The crank extension that was designed by The Akronmotor for the Funk served the following functions: It bolted directly to theend flange of the Ford crank, It allowed any prop hub that fits Cont, Franklin,Lyc, or aircraft engine to fit or be interchangeable It allows an oil sealand ball bearing to take the prop thrust developed by the prop during full throttle.Italso saved my forged, counter weighted crank from damage during a propstrike, It had bent over .125" on impact. It also counter weights that tailheavy thing I keep hearing about. Ken Perkins moved his Ford forward a longerdistant than the extension's length. You will still need to fasten the prop tothe end of the crank with some sort of attachment, I call it an extension Allengines have them in some form or other. It doesn't add strain on the crank.it may absorb torsion pulses that a flywheel does, as a heavier hub would My HamiltonAl. Prop weighed 39 Lbs and worked very well.And very smooth. If used for thrust it will require a housing to drain oil back to the pan.If you would like to see an installed unit as I have on my Piet contact me on myEmail , Try to find a good shot of it. Keep in mind if babbitt is used the thrust bearings are built in if you have inserts,other thrust surfaces are required.These are just some advantages.PIeti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:17:20 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood packages
Will. Let me put it this way: The crank extension that was designed by The Akronmotor for the Funk served the following functions: It bolted directly to theend flange of the Ford crank, It allowed any prop hub that fits Cont, Franklin,Lyc, or aircraft engine to fit or be interchangeable It allows an oil sealand ball bearing to take the prop thrust developed by the prop during full throttle.Italso saved my forged, counter weighted crank from damage during a propstrike, It had bent over .125" on impact. It also counter weights that tailheavy thing I keep hearing about. Ken Perkins moved his Ford forward a longerdistant than the extension's length. You will still need to fasten the prop tothe end of the crank with some sort of attachment, I call it an extension Allengines have them in some form or other. It doesn't add strain on the crank.it may absorb torsion pulses that a flywheel does, as a heavier hub would My HamiltonAl. Prop weighed 39 Lbs and worked very well.And very smooth. If used for thrust it will require a housing to drain oil back to the pan.If you would like to see an installed unit as I have on my Piet contact me on myEmail , Try to find a good shot of it. Keep in mind if babbitt is used the thrust bearings are built in if you have inserts,other thrust surfaces are required.These are just some advantages.PIeti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:17:20 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood packages
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: "Will42"
Just bolt a nice light wood prop directly to the flywheel flange (drive spoolsadded). You or no one else can make an extension that is as strong as the original"A" set-up is without modifications. Forget the metal prop, Cont, Lyc, Frankprop hub, extension, thrust bearing and housing. SIMPLE, LIGHT, CHEAP wasthe Pietenpol philosophy and should still be. As far as saving you crank after prop strike; you will splinter wood props untilyou go broke replacing them without bending the "A" crank if the prop is mounteddirectly to the flywheel flange. I've seen your extension and housing.As for e-mailing you; how about if you answer my recent e-mail concerning the Riblettairfoil?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Just bolt a nice light wood prop directly to the flywheel flange (drive spoolsadded). You or no one else can make an extension that is as strong as the original"A" set-up is without modifications. Forget the metal prop, Cont, Lyc, Frankprop hub, extension, thrust bearing and housing. SIMPLE, LIGHT, CHEAP wasthe Pietenpol philosophy and should still be. As far as saving you crank after prop strike; you will splinter wood props untilyou go broke replacing them without bending the "A" crank if the prop is mounteddirectly to the flywheel flange. I've seen your extension and housing.As for e-mailing you; how about if you answer my recent e-mail concerning the Riblettairfoil?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: "mksoucy(at)yahoo.com"
Save yourself some time, headaches and money; go to Lowes or some such hardware/lumberdealer and pick through their inventory. you may not find what you wantat the first one; just keep looking. WillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
Save yourself some time, headaches and money; go to Lowes or some such hardware/lumberdealer and pick through their inventory. you may not find what you wantat the first one; just keep looking. WillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Also try Wick's Aircraft Supplies. I bought most of my spruce from them.Cheaper and MUCH faster delivery than ASS. Wood quality was excellent.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Also try Wick's Aircraft Supplies. I bought most of my spruce from them.Cheaper and MUCH faster delivery than ASS. Wood quality was excellent.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Will,Just goes to show...a man with two watches never knows what time it is.Someone mentioned 16 rings/inch. AC41.13 says 6 rings/inch, minimum. Ipurchased all the wood (Poplar) thru a local supplier for under $300,although I did buy a few Poplar boards from Lowe's; true, I had to look at alot of pieces. Obviously, plywood is not in that total.Your mileage may vary.....Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Will,Just goes to show...a man with two watches never knows what time it is.Someone mentioned 16 rings/inch. AC41.13 says 6 rings/inch, minimum. Ipurchased all the wood (Poplar) thru a local supplier for under $300,although I did buy a few Poplar boards from Lowe's; true, I had to look at alot of pieces. Obviously, plywood is not in that total.Your mileage may vary.....Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Closed circuit for Raymond Hanover: I checked the metalthickness on my cooling eyebrows and engine cowlings. Allare .025" aluminum. Cowlings have stiffeners at the hingejoints and a few other stiffeners, but they are prettysolid just like that. Probably no need to go to heaviermaterial.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC- A75 with Culver propSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packagesDate: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:18:06 -0400
Closed circuit for Raymond Hanover: I checked the metalthickness on my cooling eyebrows and engine cowlings. Allare .025" aluminum. Cowlings have stiffeners at the hingejoints and a few other stiffeners, but they are prettysolid just like that. Probably no need to go to heaviermaterial.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC- A75 with Culver propSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packagesDate: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:18:06 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: wood packages
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wood packagesIt's worth the look to check out your local lumber company. I found the larger boards 2x12x20 or 22 with the best spruce. I did have to look thru a whole bundle to find two boards that had large sections of clear lumber. Howdy________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wood packagesIt's worth the look to check out your local lumber company. I found the larger boards 2x12x20 or 22 with the best spruce. I did have to look thru a whole bundle to find two boards that had large sections of clear lumber. Howdy________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Dan, I don't know about other Lowe's but here in Tennessee I have a hard time finding a straight 2 X 4 I'd use in rebuilding my old shop, let alone something I'd want in my plane!Gene ----- Original Message -----
Dan, I don't know about other Lowe's but here in Tennessee I have a hard time finding a straight 2 X 4 I'd use in rebuilding my old shop, let alone something I'd want in my plane!Gene ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
RE: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outsideVERY cool Mike Groah !!!!!!!! BEauuuuutiful !!!!!!!!!!What's that funny looking engine though you have on the front ?
) Seriously-- looking good. Love wire wheels, love the wing CC cutout and handle,love the wood gear. Nice windshields too. Good looking family. You'rethe right age to be building too-- never too soon, also--never too late. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outsideVERY cool Mike Groah !!!!!!!! BEauuuuutiful !!!!!!!!!!What's that funny looking engine though you have on the front ?
) Seriously-- looking good. Love wire wheels, love the wing CC cutout and handle,love the wood gear. Nice windshields too. Good looking family. You'rethe right age to be building too-- never too soon, also--never too late. ________________________________________________________________________________RE: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looking great, Mike!Jack phillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Looking great, Mike!Jack phillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
I am very envious of your project. I hope to be where you are in a year! Looksgreat. Get'er flying.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009using Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
I am very envious of your project. I hope to be where you are in a year! Looksgreat. Get'er flying.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009using Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
RE: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: dskogrover(at)yahoo.com
Looks nice Mike - I'm hoping to be near this stage next summer. Time will tell.Tom B.Date: Sat=2C 15 Aug 2009 18:19:38 -0700
Looks nice Mike - I'm hoping to be near this stage next summer. Time will tell.Tom B.Date: Sat=2C 15 Aug 2009 18:19:38 -0700
Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: "mksoucy(at)yahoo.com"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Don Rucker
I'd like to find a cheap? skid slip ball. not really interested in a complete instrument.justthe ball indicator.are there any real good buys out there? RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:42:49 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
I'd like to find a cheap? skid slip ball. not really interested in a complete instrument.justthe ball indicator.are there any real good buys out there? RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:42:49 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I believe that was Ken Perkins with the "navi-bird" and dice. That was hilarious.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
I believe that was Ken Perkins with the "navi-bird" and dice. That was hilarious.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
DonJohn's post came through on the web version ok. If you were to decode the message,it reads (as you probably guessed), "Nice to meet you Mr. Brown.";-)[quote="swamppilot"]Thanks for the reply but for some reason your email came acrossas code and not text.DonOn Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:03 AM, wrote:> PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwvL0VOIj4gPEhUTUw+PEhFQUQ+IDxNRVRBIGh0dHAtZXF1aXY9IkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZSIgY29udGVu dD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PXV0Zi04Ij4gPC9IRUFEPkxpdmluZyBpbiBMYW5jYXN0ZXIgUGEgYSBjdXN0b20gd29vZHdvcmtpbmcgY2FwaXRvbCwgZ2V0dGluZyBnb29kIHdvb2QgaXMgZWFzeS4gSSBhbSBidWlsZGluZyB3aXRoIHBvcGxhci4gSSB3YXMgaW50cm9kdWNlZCB0byBhIHJlYWxseSBnb29kIHN1cHBsaWVyIGFuZCBjYW4gb3JkZXIgYW55dGhpbmcgSSBuZWVkLCBJIGNvdWxkbid0IGJlIG1vcmUgc2F0aXNmaWVkLiA8YnIvPjxici8+Sm9objxwPlNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBWZXJpem9uIFdpcmVsZXNzIEJsYWNrQmVycnk8L3A+PHA+PGhyIHNpemU9MiB3aWR0aD0xMDAlIGFsaWduPWNlbnRlciB0YWJpbmRleD0tMT48Yj5Gcm9tPC9iPjogIFJ5YW4gTXVlbGxlciA8cm11ZWxsZXIyM0BnbWFpbC5jb20+PGJyPjxiPkRhdGU8L2I+OiBTYXQsIDE1IEF1ZyAyMDA5IDE0OjU0OjAzIC0wNTAwPGJyPjxiPlRvPC9iPjogJmx0O3BpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20mZ3Q7PGJyPjxiPlN1YmplY3Q8L2I+OiBSZTogUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiB3b29kIHBhY2thZ2VzPGJyPjwvZm9udD48L3A+RG9uLDxicj48YnI+U2F2ZSB5b3Vyc2VsZiBzb21lIHRpbWUgYW5kIGhlYWRhY2hlcyBieSBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gdGhlIGJpZyBib3ggc3RvcmVzIGFuZCBwaWNraW5nIHRocm91Z2ggdGhlaXIgY3JhcCB3b29kLiBPcmRlcmluZyBmcm9tIEFDUyBpcyB0aGUgZWFzaWVzdCB0aGluZyB0byBkbywgYnV0IGlzIG1vcmUgZXhwZW5zaXZlLiBGaWd1cmUgb3V0IHdoYXQgeW91IG5lZWQsIG1ha2UgYSBwaG9uZSBjYWxsLCBpdCB3aWxsIGV2ZW50dWFsbHkgc2hvdyB1cCBhdCB5b3VyIGRvb3IuIE90aGVyd2lzZSwgeW91IGNvdWxkIHRyeSB0byBmaW5kIGEgcXVhbGl0eSBsdW1iZXIgeWFyZCBpbiB5b3VyIGFyZWEuIEZvciBleGFtcGxlLCB0aGVyZSYjMzk7cyBNY0Nvcm1pY2sgTHVtYmVyIGluIE1hZGlzb24sIFdJIHRoYXQgaXMga25vd24gZm9yIGhhdmluZyBhaXJjcmFmdCBxdWFsaXR5IHNwcnVjZSBhbmQgb3RoZXIgd29vZCwgaXQmIzM5O3MganVzdCBub3QgY2VydGlmaWVkLiBUaGlzIG1lYW5zIGxlc3MgbW9uZXksIHdoaWNoIGlzIGFsd2F5cyBnb29kLiBXaGVyZSBhcmUgeW91IGxvY2F0ZWQ/PGJyPjxicj5SeWFuPGJyPjxicj48YnI+PGJyPjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3RlIj5PbiBTYXQsIEF1ZyAxNSwgMjAwOSBhdCAxMjo0MyBQTSwgV2lsbDQyIDxzcGFuIGRpcj0ibHRyIj4mbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOndpbGxAY2N0Yy5uZXQiPndpbGxAY2N0Yy5uZXQ8L2E+Jmd0Ozwvc3Bhbj4gd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9ImJvcmRlci1sZWZ0OiAxcHggc29saWQgcmdiKDI! 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DonJohn's post came through on the web version ok. If you were to decode the message,it reads (as you probably guessed), "Nice to meet you Mr. Brown.";-)[quote="swamppilot"]Thanks for the reply but for some reason your email came acrossas code and not text.DonOn Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:03 AM, wrote:> PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwvL0VOIj4gPEhUTUw+PEhFQUQ+IDxNRVRBIGh0dHAtZXF1aXY9IkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZSIgY29udGVu 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! 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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?Have to agree, according to the A&P I am working with on my 0235 sand blasting has no place near and ac engine, the media is too destructive causingreal problems for surfaces and metal. Avoid it at all costs. Not too good advice after the fact, however it may help in future considerations.John ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?Have to agree, according to the A&P I am working with on my 0235 sand blasting has no place near and ac engine, the media is too destructive causingreal problems for surfaces and metal. Avoid it at all costs. Not too good advice after the fact, however it may help in future considerations.John ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packagesStinkin blackberry________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:15:06 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packagesStinkin blackberry________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:15:06 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Re: Pietenpol-List: skid ball
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: skid ball
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: skid ball
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Hey Don!Glad you found the website. You and Peyton will have a lot of questions as youget going and this is the place to get them answered.I suggest you get all the back issues of the Pietenpol newsletters from the cluband/or from the AAA in Blakesburg, IA. On cold winter nights, they make greathomework.Rob--------NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/CreamNX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail doneNX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs doneRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:48:53 -0700
Hey Don!Glad you found the website. You and Peyton will have a lot of questions as youget going and this is the place to get them answered.I suggest you get all the back issues of the Pietenpol newsletters from the cluband/or from the AAA in Blakesburg, IA. On cold winter nights, they make greathomework.Rob--------NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/CreamNX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail doneNX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs doneRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:48:53 -0700
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By:----- Original Message ----- "Aircraft Spruce Info" <info@aircraftspr
My experience with Aircraft Spruce has been excellent over the years.- The wood package for my Pietenpol was received in a timely manner and the order accurate. Any problems that I've had were quickly resolved.Tim White
My experience with Aircraft Spruce has been excellent over the years.- The wood package for my Pietenpol was received in a timely manner and the order accurate. Any problems that I've had were quickly resolved.Tim White
Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
We reviewed the comments on the Pietenpol list regarding the quality and priceof spruce from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co. We have supplied aircraft gradespruce to aircraft builders worldwide since 1965.....it was our first product,and thus our company name. We have obtained our spruce from the same mill inthe Northeast for decades, and they have always furnished us with handpickedspruce which meets MIL-S-6073. Although a homebuilder can certainly use any woodhe chooses for an experimental aircraft, we believe that the quality and strengthof aircraft grade spruce is the best choice, and most spruce orders placedwith Aircraft Spruce are shipped within one week from our wood shops in Californiaand Georgia. If any builder have a specific problem with any wood receivedfrom Aircraft Spruce, please let us know by email at custsvc(at)aircraftspruce.comThanks!Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.Customer Service Dept.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
We reviewed the comments on the Pietenpol list regarding the quality and priceof spruce from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co. We have supplied aircraft gradespruce to aircraft builders worldwide since 1965.....it was our first product,and thus our company name. We have obtained our spruce from the same mill inthe Northeast for decades, and they have always furnished us with handpickedspruce which meets MIL-S-6073. Although a homebuilder can certainly use any woodhe chooses for an experimental aircraft, we believe that the quality and strengthof aircraft grade spruce is the best choice, and most spruce orders placedwith Aircraft Spruce are shipped within one week from our wood shops in Californiaand Georgia. If any builder have a specific problem with any wood receivedfrom Aircraft Spruce, please let us know by email at custsvc(at)aircraftspruce.comThanks!Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.Customer Service Dept.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: "Tim White"
While I do appreciate occasional techical assistance from companies on forums and the like, I'm not sure this is really much more than a commercial in response to public criticism.As it is, individuals do have the right to openly discuss the various differences in price, quality, and service they have received from businesses offering similar services. If a business is concerned about it's image in the homebuilding community, perhaps they should concentrate their efforts on addressing the complaints voiced by their customers, and then work to improve those areas of their business.This is not the only forum I am involved with, and this is not the only forum in which builders have criticized companies for their prices, service, or quality.Personally, I would like to see lower prices on everything, but I'm not willing to sacrifice quality or service for price.Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.comSent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:36 PM, "Aircraft Spruce Info" wrote:> >>> We reviewed the comments on the Pietenpol list regarding the quality > and price of spruce from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co. We have > supplied aircraft grade spruce to aircraft builders worldwide since > 1965.....it was our first product, and thus our company name. We > have obtained our spruce from the same mill in the Northeast for > decades, and they have always furnished us with handpicked spruce > which meets MIL-S-6073. Although a homebuilder can certainly use any > wood he chooses for an experimental aircraft, we believe that the > quality and strength of aircraft grade spruce is the best choice, > and most spruce orders placed with Aircraft Spruce are shipped > within one week from our wood shops in California and Georgia. If > any builder have a specific problem with any wood received from > Aircraft Spruce, please let us know by email at custsvc(at)aircraftspruce.com>> Thanks!>> Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.> Customer Service Dept.________________________________________________________________________________
While I do appreciate occasional techical assistance from companies on forums and the like, I'm not sure this is really much more than a commercial in response to public criticism.As it is, individuals do have the right to openly discuss the various differences in price, quality, and service they have received from businesses offering similar services. If a business is concerned about it's image in the homebuilding community, perhaps they should concentrate their efforts on addressing the complaints voiced by their customers, and then work to improve those areas of their business.This is not the only forum I am involved with, and this is not the only forum in which builders have criticized companies for their prices, service, or quality.Personally, I would like to see lower prices on everything, but I'm not willing to sacrifice quality or service for price.Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.comSent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:36 PM, "Aircraft Spruce Info" wrote:> >>> We reviewed the comments on the Pietenpol list regarding the quality > and price of spruce from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co. We have > supplied aircraft grade spruce to aircraft builders worldwide since > 1965.....it was our first product, and thus our company name. We > have obtained our spruce from the same mill in the Northeast for > decades, and they have always furnished us with handpicked spruce > which meets MIL-S-6073. Although a homebuilder can certainly use any > wood he chooses for an experimental aircraft, we believe that the > quality and strength of aircraft grade spruce is the best choice, > and most spruce orders placed with Aircraft Spruce are shipped > within one week from our wood shops in California and Georgia. If > any builder have a specific problem with any wood received from > Aircraft Spruce, please let us know by email at custsvc(at)aircraftspruce.com>> Thanks!>> Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.> Customer Service Dept.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: "Aircraft Spruce Info"
My experience with Aircraft Spruce has been excellent over the years. The wood package for my Pietenpol was received in a timely manner and the order accurate. Any problems that I've had were quickly resolved.Tim White----- Original Message -----
My experience with Aircraft Spruce has been excellent over the years. The wood package for my Pietenpol was received in a timely manner and the order accurate. Any problems that I've had were quickly resolved.Tim White----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood packages