Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Let me start by saying that Mike Cuy's video has every bitas inspirational to me as it has been to any of you, and hisairplane is a sterling example of the marque. Now let mespar a bit with Mikee about his comments.My airplane was initially a very nicely finished Piet, butnowadays it is simply a sturdy, reliable, fun flyer. I wouldnever put it up for judging because it wouldn't win anything.It has looks that appeal to some people, but not a majority.Most modern pilots see it as an anachronism, a simplisticmeans of getting in the air, and a bit of a cranky airplanein that it requires hand-propping, has no electrical system,has an open cockpit, is not padded and cushy, has no radios,is a taildragger, has a control stick, and when you sit in ityou get the impression that it is an antique and a bit delicate.The thing is, my feeling is that it is far better to have anairplane that is simple and reliable than it is to have onethat is polished and sophisticated. I let kids climb in andwhen their parents tell the kids not to touch anything, I tellthem there is nothing they can hurt in my airplane. I want thekids to enjoy it. The paint has scratches, the fabric hasscuffs, there is oil mist and dust here and there, drips andstains on the fabric, but to me that is part of the charm andwarmth of the airplane and it makes it much easier for me toenjoy flying it rather than spending time polishing andprimping it.The paint job is imprecise, colors don't match perfectlywhere I've made repairs, and the paint scheme is an earlyArmy Air Corps military style. It appeals to a fairlynarrow group of people, but to me it places the airplane inits milieu. The Air Camper will never look right with achrome and pearlescent scheme, in my mind. It will neverbe at home with carbon fiber and microelectronics. It iswhat it is, and I think that's part of the attraction to thetype of people who associate themselves with it. Not that Idon't want to have the airplane continue to grow in popularily,but I don't want people to "pimp my ride" to make it popular,if you know what I mean.Nothing personal, Mikee... just a bit of a difference ofopinion. There is still something appealing about a simplePiet with a red barn fuselage and silver or white wings...Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC- A75 with Culver propSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Re: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
Oscar,The following sounds perfect to me:"Most modern pilots see it as an anachronism, a simplistic means of getting in the air, and a bit of a cranky airplanein that it requires hand-propping, has no electrical system, has an open cockpit, is not padded and cushy, has no radios, is a taildragger, has a control stick, and when you sit in it you get the impression that it is an antique and a bit delicate."But I guess I'm not the majority, which is just fine with me. :)Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.com________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
Oscar,The following sounds perfect to me:"Most modern pilots see it as an anachronism, a simplistic means of getting in the air, and a bit of a cranky airplanein that it requires hand-propping, has no electrical system, has an open cockpit, is not padded and cushy, has no radios, is a taildragger, has a control stick, and when you sit in it you get the impression that it is an antique and a bit delicate."But I guess I'm not the majority, which is just fine with me. :)Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.com________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished PietsNothing wrong with a rode-hard and put away wet Pietenpol at all in fact some ofmy favorite airplanes are the dentedand faded planes at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. Being glossy with chrome hasnothing to do with the safety and quality ofan airplane if the guts are made of home Depot lumber and Elmer's glue. I thinkwhat I was saying is that some of the Pietenpolsthat I saw early on in the late 80's when I first got into this deal looked downrightdangerous and the workmanship was thatof a 6th or 7th grade shop student who still was using a hand saw and not sandingout the saw marks. I wouldn't let my ex wiferide in one of those airplanes and that, in my opinion, give the airplane a badreputation--in general and thus the reason for mytaking pleasure in seeing the overall quality of workmanship keep getting betterand better in the Piet world. Now go get your plane in shape for the 90th Anniversary Oscar when we'll be hobblingaround a bit more and talking about whatprescriptions we are on and how this aches and that hurts. After all, I don'twant my plane parked next to just any old heap:))) Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outsideDate: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:35:32 -0400
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished PietsNothing wrong with a rode-hard and put away wet Pietenpol at all in fact some ofmy favorite airplanes are the dentedand faded planes at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. Being glossy with chrome hasnothing to do with the safety and quality ofan airplane if the guts are made of home Depot lumber and Elmer's glue. I thinkwhat I was saying is that some of the Pietenpolsthat I saw early on in the late 80's when I first got into this deal looked downrightdangerous and the workmanship was thatof a 6th or 7th grade shop student who still was using a hand saw and not sandingout the saw marks. I wouldn't let my ex wiferide in one of those airplanes and that, in my opinion, give the airplane a badreputation--in general and thus the reason for mytaking pleasure in seeing the overall quality of workmanship keep getting betterand better in the Piet world. Now go get your plane in shape for the 90th Anniversary Oscar when we'll be hobblingaround a bit more and talking about whatprescriptions we are on and how this aches and that hurts. After all, I don'twant my plane parked next to just any old heap:))) Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: taking the project outsideDate: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:35:32 -0400
Pietenpol-List: taking the project outside
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Re: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
Pietenpol-List: Re: taking the project outside
Original Posted By: airlion
Very cool.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
Very cool.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
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Original Posted By: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
During my travels I have always sought out builders and projects. I wanted to seeand learn from their work. Another of us builders had started that traditionand I am proud to call him my friend. On day we were both traveling and in the same area at the same time. I had arrangedto see a project at one of the near airports. My friend decided to join me(invitehimself) on the visit. The builder showed us a fuse that was sitting in an obscure part of the hangar.When our host was out of earshot my friend said " I came all the way here tosee this piece of shit" words I remember and use to motivate me to do better tospend the extra hours to try to build better than I am capable of. I never wantanyone to say that about my project especially if I can do better. Fortunately that wan not the work of our host just some guy who did poor work andnot capable or motivated to do better. The work of our host was impeccable for which we were both happy to see. I realize that the Piet I build is my Piet and I am building it for me but I wouldprefer call it a nice build rather than a piece of shit. Btwi that friend of mine frequents and posts to this board as a frequent and wellrespected member of our community. John ------Original Message------
During my travels I have always sought out builders and projects. I wanted to seeand learn from their work. Another of us builders had started that traditionand I am proud to call him my friend. On day we were both traveling and in the same area at the same time. I had arrangedto see a project at one of the near airports. My friend decided to join me(invitehimself) on the visit. The builder showed us a fuse that was sitting in an obscure part of the hangar.When our host was out of earshot my friend said " I came all the way here tosee this piece of shit" words I remember and use to motivate me to do better tospend the extra hours to try to build better than I am capable of. I never wantanyone to say that about my project especially if I can do better. Fortunately that wan not the work of our host just some guy who did poor work andnot capable or motivated to do better. The work of our host was impeccable for which we were both happy to see. I realize that the Piet I build is my Piet and I am building it for me but I wouldprefer call it a nice build rather than a piece of shit. Btwi that friend of mine frequents and posts to this board as a frequent and wellrespected member of our community. John ------Original Message------
Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Just to clear one thing up: I'm not in favor of sloppybuilding, hurried construction, lack of attention todetail, and most of all not in favor of unsafe ordime-store materials on airplanes. I'm also not infavor of lowering the standards just to get moreairplanes in the air. Not at all.They say that the best way to train people to recognizecounterfeit money is not to have them examine lots ofdifferent examples of "funny money" but to give themfresh, real currency and let them familiarize themselveswith the look, feel, and smell of the real thing.Go look at, touch, smell, and take careful notice ofMike Cuy's, Greg Cardinal's, Jack Phillips', Don Emch's,and similar airplanes and you will get a feel for whata real Piet is. From there, you will easily be able tospot the counterfeits. In fact, the bad and the uglyones will almost jump out at you as you examine thefittings, fabric work, and other construction details.Then there's the lesson my calculus teacher gave us.In explaining the concept of 'dx' and how fine anincrement must be taken as the increment dx approachesinfinity, he pointed out that there is also the matterof practicality. He used the example of approachinga young lady to give her a kiss. If one approaches byhalf the remaining distance with each attempt, in theoryone will never actually get to the young lady. But, hispoint was, you will be close enough for all practicalpurposes. So it is with the fit and finish of Air Camper41CC: close enough for all practical purposes.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC- A75 with Culver propSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:55:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Just to clear one thing up: I'm not in favor of sloppybuilding, hurried construction, lack of attention todetail, and most of all not in favor of unsafe ordime-store materials on airplanes. I'm also not infavor of lowering the standards just to get moreairplanes in the air. Not at all.They say that the best way to train people to recognizecounterfeit money is not to have them examine lots ofdifferent examples of "funny money" but to give themfresh, real currency and let them familiarize themselveswith the look, feel, and smell of the real thing.Go look at, touch, smell, and take careful notice ofMike Cuy's, Greg Cardinal's, Jack Phillips', Don Emch's,and similar airplanes and you will get a feel for whata real Piet is. From there, you will easily be able tospot the counterfeits. In fact, the bad and the uglyones will almost jump out at you as you examine thefittings, fabric work, and other construction details.Then there's the lesson my calculus teacher gave us.In explaining the concept of 'dx' and how fine anincrement must be taken as the increment dx approachesinfinity, he pointed out that there is also the matterof practicality. He used the example of approachinga young lady to give her a kiss. If one approaches byhalf the remaining distance with each attempt, in theoryone will never actually get to the young lady. But, hispoint was, you will be close enough for all practicalpurposes. So it is with the fit and finish of Air Camper41CC: close enough for all practical purposes.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC- A75 with Culver propSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:55:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Re: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Oscar I think the thread has gone a miss. There is a definitive difference between aproven classic and wisdom wrinkles and slipshod workmanship and substandardmaterials. One has earned its place; and for the other, there is no place inaviation. I suspect we can all agree on that point and from your posts I doubt anyone wouldor could accuse you of poor quality materials or workmanship. That is withthe exception or fools that have not had the pleasure of reading your posts. John------Original Message------
Oscar I think the thread has gone a miss. There is a definitive difference between aproven classic and wisdom wrinkles and slipshod workmanship and substandardmaterials. One has earned its place; and for the other, there is no place inaviation. I suspect we can all agree on that point and from your posts I doubt anyone wouldor could accuse you of poor quality materials or workmanship. That is withthe exception or fools that have not had the pleasure of reading your posts. John------Original Message------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Original Posted By: "SteveR"
John... your traveling friend is due to visit our field tonight... I hope he doesn'thave a similar comment for my project. I've worked really hard on the partsthat I've completed. You know, I could totally hear him saying that. I'm sure that most here know whoyou are talking about, and surely they could hear it too. How funny.Hey guy... you know who you are... it's the third Monday of the month, are youstill planning to make it out tonight? Don't get behind the power curve today!Ok, sorry for the hijack... back to the discussion.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
John... your traveling friend is due to visit our field tonight... I hope he doesn'thave a similar comment for my project. I've worked really hard on the partsthat I've completed. You know, I could totally hear him saying that. I'm sure that most here know whoyou are talking about, and surely they could hear it too. How funny.Hey guy... you know who you are... it's the third Monday of the month, are youstill planning to make it out tonight? Don't get behind the power curve today!Ok, sorry for the hijack... back to the discussion.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
[quote="Amsafetyc"]Have to agree, according to the A&P I am working with on my0235 sand blasting has no place near and ac engine, the media is too destructivecausing real problems for surfaces and metal. Avoid itat all costs. Nottoo good advice after the fact, however it may help in future considerations. John > Thanks John and everyone else, I really appreciate it.John, you bring up an interesting point. Several people have told me to sandblastmy pistons from the oil ring up (not the lower skirt past the rings). I knowseveral people around here who do this, including an A&P. They tape the cylinderwith duct tape from the oil ring down so the skirt and back of the pistonare unaffected. Sounds like a great way to get them clean. Is this a badidea?Of course, they would be thoroughly cleaned before installing.Steve RuseRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
[quote="Amsafetyc"]Have to agree, according to the A&P I am working with on my0235 sand blasting has no place near and ac engine, the media is too destructivecausing real problems for surfaces and metal. Avoid itat all costs. Nottoo good advice after the fact, however it may help in future considerations. John > Thanks John and everyone else, I really appreciate it.John, you bring up an interesting point. Several people have told me to sandblastmy pistons from the oil ring up (not the lower skirt past the rings). I knowseveral people around here who do this, including an A&P. They tape the cylinderwith duct tape from the oil ring down so the skirt and back of the pistonare unaffected. Sounds like a great way to get them clean. Is this a badidea?Of course, they would be thoroughly cleaned before installing.Steve RuseRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished PietsMark,I hope progress is going well I may be down in September to visit the plant. We will have to plan on a get together at your hangar to review.I'll keep ya posted. By the way maybe we can have the new guy, George Brown join us, assuming he's in town and willing to consume and imbibe of thelocal fare.John________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished PietsMark,I hope progress is going well I may be down in September to visit the plant. We will have to plan on a get together at your hangar to review.I'll keep ya posted. By the way maybe we can have the new guy, George Brown join us, assuming he's in town and willing to consume and imbibe of thelocal fare.John________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?Steve, I couldn't comment on the pistons, my A&P cleaned them along with the rest of my parts so I never did get that part of the lesson just the part about sand. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Fact of it is I am more adept to working on auto engines, so my favorite tool for cleaning is and has always been the wire wheel.Its a good thing I consulted my A&P and let him do the cleaning given a chance me and my best friend the wire wheel would have reduced that entire engine to aviation junk, Really clean junk! but junk nonetheless.John ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?Steve, I couldn't comment on the pistons, my A&P cleaned them along with the rest of my parts so I never did get that part of the lesson just the part about sand. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Fact of it is I am more adept to working on auto engines, so my favorite tool for cleaning is and has always been the wire wheel.Its a good thing I consulted my A&P and let him do the cleaning given a chance me and my best friend the wire wheel would have reduced that entire engine to aviation junk, Really clean junk! but junk nonetheless.John ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
John:Progress is indeed going well, and we would be glad to have you out for some Piet-pattiesand brew whenever you are in town.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
John:Progress is indeed going well, and we would be glad to have you out for some Piet-pattiesand brew whenever you are in town.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: Steve Ruse
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished PietsIncidentally. The story was told to convey not what was said or how but more that people come away with a perception of quality and as such drives us to be better builders. Nor was it told to embarrass anyone but and certainly not Jim. I home the posting has not caused him any inconvenience ordiscord as I shared it to illustrate a point and not to discredit anyone.If it came out that way or was interpreted as such, I owe the group and my friend an apology as it was and is not my intent to damage do harm or injure anyone.Again my sincerest apologiesJohn________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:32:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished PietsIncidentally. The story was told to convey not what was said or how but more that people come away with a perception of quality and as such drives us to be better builders. Nor was it told to embarrass anyone but and certainly not Jim. I home the posting has not caused him any inconvenience ordiscord as I shared it to illustrate a point and not to discredit anyone.If it came out that way or was interpreted as such, I owe the group and my friend an apology as it was and is not my intent to damage do harm or injure anyone.Again my sincerest apologiesJohn________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:32:26 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Got mine from Aircraft SpruceOn Aug 17, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:> The company that manufactured Lindbergh's slip indicator is still > doing business:>> http://www.riekerinc.com/SlipIndicators.htm>> No idea how you go about buying one, from what I can see on the > website, but it might be worth a phone call.>> Ryan>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Wayne Bressler > wrote:> >>> When I did the EAA's Air Academy as a teenager, we made slip-skid > balls just as Oscar described. A piece of aluminum was bent to the > proper shape, and a steel ball was placed in the tube with screws/ > bolts sealing the tube and holding it to the aluminum at the same > time. I don't remember what we filled the tubes with, but it was > probably just water.>> I still like Jack's idea of stripping a surplus instrument down for > just a few bucks. That's pretty clever.>> Reminds me of the Navi-Bird somebody had in their Piet at OSH in > 2001(?). They also had a "moving map" sectional on two rollers with > a hand crank, and a pair of dice inside an instrument face with a > placard that said "Flying is a Gamble".>> Very cool.>> Wayne Bressler Jr.> Taildraggers, Inc.> taildraggersinc.com>>> ==========> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> ==========> http://forums.matronics.com> ==========> le, List Admin.> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> ==========>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets
Got mine from Aircraft SpruceOn Aug 17, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:> The company that manufactured Lindbergh's slip indicator is still > doing business:>> http://www.riekerinc.com/SlipIndicators.htm>> No idea how you go about buying one, from what I can see on the > website, but it might be worth a phone call.>> Ryan>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Wayne Bressler > wrote:> >>> When I did the EAA's Air Academy as a teenager, we made slip-skid > balls just as Oscar described. A piece of aluminum was bent to the > proper shape, and a steel ball was placed in the tube with screws/ > bolts sealing the tube and holding it to the aluminum at the same > time. I don't remember what we filled the tubes with, but it was > probably just water.>> I still like Jack's idea of stripping a surplus instrument down for > just a few bucks. That's pretty clever.>> Reminds me of the Navi-Bird somebody had in their Piet at OSH in > 2001(?). They also had a "moving map" sectional on two rollers with > a hand crank, and a pair of dice inside an instrument face with a > placard that said "Flying is a Gamble".>> Very cool.>> Wayne Bressler Jr.> Taildraggers, Inc.> taildraggersinc.com>>> ==========> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> ==========> http://forums.matronics.com> ==========> le, List Admin.> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> ==========>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: nicely finished Piets