Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
Simple.follow the plan; especially if you do not have Bill C=99s ability to engineer, like me.=C2-Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear(14 ribs down)
Pietenpol-List: Wood List
Pietenpol-List: Wood List
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
A while back I acquired a wood list from someone, but I cant remember if it washere on the mailing list of if someone e-mailed it to me. I have a 3-page scanof an old order named Walt-1, 2 and 3, which is helpful, but that is not whatIm looking for.The list Im thinking of was an old typed page and it had hand written notes allover it, along with Buckeye Piet or something to that effect. Maybe it was partof the Walt files, but I cant seem to find that particular page. Anyone knowwhat Im talking about? I've already received my wood order, but I am trying to make sense of it and thatparticular list included some notes for many of the parts I'm looking at.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
A while back I acquired a wood list from someone, but I cant remember if it washere on the mailing list of if someone e-mailed it to me. I have a 3-page scanof an old order named Walt-1, 2 and 3, which is helpful, but that is not whatIm looking for.The list Im thinking of was an old typed page and it had hand written notes allover it, along with Buckeye Piet or something to that effect. Maybe it was partof the Walt files, but I cant seem to find that particular page. Anyone knowwhat Im talking about? I've already received my wood order, but I am trying to make sense of it and thatparticular list included some notes for many of the parts I'm looking at.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Another sketch
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Simple..follow the plan; especially if you do not have Bill C's ability toengineer, like me.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(14 ribs down.) _____
Simple..follow the plan; especially if you do not have Bill C's ability toengineer, like me.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(14 ribs down.) _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Another sketch
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood List
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Mark,Try here.http://www.cpc-world.com/images/mat_lis ... rWonthaggi Australiahttp://www.cpc-world.com-----Original Message-----
Mark,Try here.http://www.cpc-world.com/images/mat_lis ... rWonthaggi Australiahttp://www.cpc-world.com-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Thanks for the list Peter, but the one I am looking for was a very close matchto the wood package I ordered, and it also has some notes by the line items, whichidentified what parts were to be used for certain assemblies.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks for the list Peter, but the one I am looking for was a very close matchto the wood package I ordered, and it also has some notes by the line items, whichidentified what parts were to be used for certain assemblies.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gussets and wedgies---can we talk about latex paintma...True enough, some of those guys really enjoy the power of killing your ticket for medical. Having been exposed to one of those jerks first hand I know what that's all about.Rule, know your docRule, don't volunteer information that is not relevantRule, consider carefully what you say about your medical condition and history, the way you word a response can make all the difference in the worldAny wrinkle or discussion topic is fare game for failure so don't ask questions about specific medical conditions that points a finger of suspicion in your direction. Trouble Sleeping is a big one, that gets you to two places immediately, sleep apnea automatic failure even if you were treated many years before you still have to prove it up to and including additional studies and the all together fun of sleep and awake one that lasts for a full 8 hours and in nothing short of tempted sleep at intervals. nuff saidDont say $hiCrapdepression, automatic failure. dont know how that one works but youll wash out quick on that or medications for A word to the wiseJohnIn a message dated 9/5/2009 2:25:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jboatri(at)emory.edu writes:I don't think an FAA med examiner has to report anything if you're not officially applying for a Medical. If he does find something as part of a non-FAA examination, he might suggestion remedies to you, he may even remind you that IF this HAD been an oh-ficial exam, that he would have had to 'bust' you. However, I don't think he has any responsibility to report anything to the FAA outside of the results of an official FAA medical examination. To the contrary, it is the pilot's responsibility to make a decision every time he or she goes flying.There was an article published in a recent AOPA Pilot, or EAA Sport Aviation, or somewhere, that suggested that you go to your regular family doc,not an FAA examiner, and have him put you through the FAA tests. If you have no problems, then immediately schedule an FAA exam. If you do have concerns, either get them addressed or go SP (which means - just let your Medical lapse).On that note, most docs that do medicals also have 'regular' practices. Can you go to the doc and ask him to give you a physical identical to the FAA medical but not actually fill out the paperwork for a medical - and then if you pass it, do it (and pay for it) again the next day, on the record?Or is it that if an FAA medical examiner knows you hold a medical and he finds something wrong he has to report it even though you weren't officially there for a medical?On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:(mailto:jboatri(at)emory.edu) >Tim,You wrote that Seth......is building a light-sport RV, preparing for his possible loss of medicalYou may want to make sure he knows that once an FAA med examiner denies his medical, then he can't go Sport Pilot (unless he gets the issue resolved and the medical re-instated, in which case, what's the point?).How to avoid this Catch-22 is left as an exercise to the reader... :-(Jeffuch as List Un/Subscription,www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... onics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.comMatt Dralle, List Admin.====Pietenpol-List Email Forum -href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... enpol-List> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com- List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> ... ntribution> (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gussets and wedgies---can we talk about latex paintma...True enough, some of those guys really enjoy the power of killing your ticket for medical. Having been exposed to one of those jerks first hand I know what that's all about.Rule, know your docRule, don't volunteer information that is not relevantRule, consider carefully what you say about your medical condition and history, the way you word a response can make all the difference in the worldAny wrinkle or discussion topic is fare game for failure so don't ask questions about specific medical conditions that points a finger of suspicion in your direction. Trouble Sleeping is a big one, that gets you to two places immediately, sleep apnea automatic failure even if you were treated many years before you still have to prove it up to and including additional studies and the all together fun of sleep and awake one that lasts for a full 8 hours and in nothing short of tempted sleep at intervals. nuff saidDont say $hiCrapdepression, automatic failure. dont know how that one works but youll wash out quick on that or medications for A word to the wiseJohnIn a message dated 9/5/2009 2:25:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jboatri(at)emory.edu writes:I don't think an FAA med examiner has to report anything if you're not officially applying for a Medical. If he does find something as part of a non-FAA examination, he might suggestion remedies to you, he may even remind you that IF this HAD been an oh-ficial exam, that he would have had to 'bust' you. However, I don't think he has any responsibility to report anything to the FAA outside of the results of an official FAA medical examination. To the contrary, it is the pilot's responsibility to make a decision every time he or she goes flying.There was an article published in a recent AOPA Pilot, or EAA Sport Aviation, or somewhere, that suggested that you go to your regular family doc,not an FAA examiner, and have him put you through the FAA tests. If you have no problems, then immediately schedule an FAA exam. If you do have concerns, either get them addressed or go SP (which means - just let your Medical lapse).On that note, most docs that do medicals also have 'regular' practices. Can you go to the doc and ask him to give you a physical identical to the FAA medical but not actually fill out the paperwork for a medical - and then if you pass it, do it (and pay for it) again the next day, on the record?Or is it that if an FAA medical examiner knows you hold a medical and he finds something wrong he has to report it even though you weren't officially there for a medical?On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:(mailto:jboatri(at)emory.edu) >Tim,You wrote that Seth......is building a light-sport RV, preparing for his possible loss of medicalYou may want to make sure he knows that once an FAA med examiner denies his medical, then he can't go Sport Pilot (unless he gets the issue resolved and the medical re-instated, in which case, what's the point?).How to avoid this Catch-22 is left as an exercise to the reader... :-(Jeffuch as List Un/Subscription,www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... onics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.comMatt Dralle, List Admin.====Pietenpol-List Email Forum -href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... enpol-List> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com- List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> ... ntribution> (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Update:I found a hard copy of the page I was looking for up at he hangar. I still don'tremember how I got this list (e-mail or forum), as I still can not find theelectronic version, so I am in the process of retyping it with the hand writtennotes. For anyone wondering, this list was compiled by Robert McKinley, to include somehand written notes. Perhaps that rings a bell with some? Having studied itseveral times before placing the order for my wood package, I think I'll findit useful to go through it again while I identify the various pieces prior tocutting.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:45:32 -0400
Update:I found a hard copy of the page I was looking for up at he hangar. I still don'tremember how I got this list (e-mail or forum), as I still can not find theelectronic version, so I am in the process of retyping it with the hand writtennotes. For anyone wondering, this list was compiled by Robert McKinley, to include somehand written notes. Perhaps that rings a bell with some? Having studied itseveral times before placing the order for my wood package, I think I'll findit useful to go through it again while I identify the various pieces prior tocutting.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:45:32 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Is this the list your talking about? I finaly found it on my computer a little too late for you. I think Bill Church sent it out several months ago.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com----- Original Message -----
Is this the list your talking about? I finaly found it on my computer a little too late for you. I think Bill Church sent it out several months ago.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Group I had a very nice visit with Gardner Mason. I went to AS&S in Peachtree City,Gato pick up my wood package and 4130. I came back by Gardner's hangar Ihad a great time and really enjoyed drooling over his Pietenpol. It is all butready to fly. Very nice Corvair installation. I didn't stay long as there wassome weather moving in and I wanted to get home ahead of it. Thanks Gardner foryour hospitality.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs all doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:55:28 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Group I had a very nice visit with Gardner Mason. I went to AS&S in Peachtree City,Gato pick up my wood package and 4130. I came back by Gardner's hangar Ihad a great time and really enjoyed drooling over his Pietenpol. It is all butready to fly. Very nice Corvair installation. I didn't stay long as there wassome weather moving in and I wanted to get home ahead of it. Thanks Gardner foryour hospitality.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs all doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:55:28 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
That's the one! I used that list to inventory my wood package this afternoon andfound that everything was accounted for. In fact, I ended up with a coupleof extra pieces...1 - 1"x1"x7' the list calls for 1, I have 22 - 3/16"x1/2"x6' the list calls for 7, I have 92 - 3/16"x1/2"x4' the list calls for 7, I have 9Mr. McKinley's list states "Pietenpol Air Camper Original"... I wonder if thismay be an indication of materials needed for the original (standard) fuse, whereasmaybe the additional pieces included in the AS&S package allow for the longfuse. Anyone know if this is the case? All things accounted for, I don't believe that the leading or trailing edges forthe wing are included, and I'm not sure that the wing tip bows are either. Inventory was the easy part... now I get to try and figure out which pieces areused for the different assemblies. Any other tips out there? [Laughing]--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
That's the one! I used that list to inventory my wood package this afternoon andfound that everything was accounted for. In fact, I ended up with a coupleof extra pieces...1 - 1"x1"x7' the list calls for 1, I have 22 - 3/16"x1/2"x6' the list calls for 7, I have 92 - 3/16"x1/2"x4' the list calls for 7, I have 9Mr. McKinley's list states "Pietenpol Air Camper Original"... I wonder if thismay be an indication of materials needed for the original (standard) fuse, whereasmaybe the additional pieces included in the AS&S package allow for the longfuse. Anyone know if this is the case? All things accounted for, I don't believe that the leading or trailing edges forthe wing are included, and I'm not sure that the wing tip bows are either. Inventory was the easy part... now I get to try and figure out which pieces areused for the different assemblies. Any other tips out there? [Laughing]--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Visit to Gardner Mason's hangar
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jerry,Gardiner showed me some photos at Brodhead, but I haven't seen anything onthe net, or the latest. You didn't happen to take any pictures, did you?Gardiner, I know you're out there...how about posting some pics?Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Jerry,Gardiner showed me some photos at Brodhead, but I haven't seen anything onthe net, or the latest. You didn't happen to take any pictures, did you?Gardiner, I know you're out there...how about posting some pics?Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Visit to Gardner Mason's hangar
Original Posted By: airlion
Gary I only took some pictures of his trim tab,alternator and voltage regulator.My son was with me and I thought he was taking picture but he was drooling onthe airplane too. I didn't get a picture of him or the whole airplane. I thinkthose 3 pictures was all I got. My wife gave me WHAT FOR about it too!--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs all doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
Gary I only took some pictures of his trim tab,alternator and voltage regulator.My son was with me and I thought he was taking picture but he was drooling onthe airplane too. I didn't get a picture of him or the whole airplane. I thinkthose 3 pictures was all I got. My wife gave me WHAT FOR about it too!--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs all doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Visit to Gardner Mason's hangar
Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
If I'm not mistaken, this looks just like the wood list that came with the GregaGN-1 plans package. I have those plans in additon to my Piet plans, and I thinkI remember seeing this list in the GN-1 builder's notes.Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILBaton Rouge, LARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
If I'm not mistaken, this looks just like the wood list that came with the GregaGN-1 plans package. I have those plans in additon to my Piet plans, and I thinkI remember seeing this list in the GN-1 builder's notes.Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILBaton Rouge, LARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Wood List
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
I have completed most of the woodwork on my Pietenpol fuselage and am getting readyto order more wood.I was wondering if anyone has a complete wood list for the Pietenpol Air Camperper the 1933 plans. I am finding that some of the materials lists and preorderwood kits are for the GN-1 but I have not found a list for the Original Pietenpol.Thanks Joseph Jameson________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 21:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
I have completed most of the woodwork on my Pietenpol fuselage and am getting readyto order more wood.I was wondering if anyone has a complete wood list for the Pietenpol Air Camperper the 1933 plans. I am finding that some of the materials lists and preorderwood kits are for the GN-1 but I have not found a list for the Original Pietenpol.Thanks Joseph Jameson________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 21:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Brodhead is off the table for me this year, but I think I can make this in a Tcraftwith my wife driving support.--------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List
Brodhead is off the table for me this year, but I think I can make this in a Tcraftwith my wife driving support.--------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood List