Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
All,Saturday we had our annual get-together (if you are a West Coast Builder orowner and got left out, just e-mail me and you will be put on the list forthe next one), and had a great day! The event was hosted by Mike Weaver, athis house, where his project was up-side-down getting a straight axle gearinstalled. Chris Tracy went above and beyond getting his fuselage to theevent, too."At Mike's House": Ray Krause (Waiex builder/owner and now a Piet Builder),Mike Hardaway (Piet Builder), Jim Boyer (Piet Builder), Darrel Jones (PietBuilder), Mike Groah (Piet Builder), Gary Boothe (Piet Builder, and 15 ribsdone in case you didn't know), Mike Weaver (Piet Builder), Chris Tracy (PietBuilder)."In Front of Charlie's Piet": Mike Weaver, Mike Groah, Chris Tracy, RayKrause, Jim Boyer, Mike Hardaway, Darrel Jones, Charlie Miller (kneeling.That's Charlie's beautiful Piet that he flew in on "his longest x-countryever").Three other pilots flew in other planes as pictured. BTW - is everyoneseeing those beautiful blue N. California skies? Everyone professed to have a great time and we didn't once argue about thepros & cons of Corvair vs. ho-hum...I mean Continentals or Fords. Thanks, Mike, for all the work!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-togetherGary Boothe-thanks for posting some good photos that help put names to faces. Mike Hardaway looks to be a WestCoast version of our East Coast Piet's Jack Phillips, minus the mustache. They sure look to be about the same height.Didn't you fly F-4 Phantoms Mike H ? I recall visiting with you offlist several times. Would be great to meet allyou infidels someday. Gary showed up and we didn't boot him out of Brodhead. Darrel Jones, Mike Groah,Jim boyer, and Chris Tracy-good to see who is who.So Charlie Miller's Piet that he flew in-is that Ford powered ? Couldn't tell from the photo. Also you say it wasCharlie's "longest cross country" ? Could you elaborate any ?Thank you for posting-Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:37:49 -0500
Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-togetherGary Boothe-thanks for posting some good photos that help put names to faces. Mike Hardaway looks to be a WestCoast version of our East Coast Piet's Jack Phillips, minus the mustache. They sure look to be about the same height.Didn't you fly F-4 Phantoms Mike H ? I recall visiting with you offlist several times. Would be great to meet allyou infidels someday. Gary showed up and we didn't boot him out of Brodhead. Darrel Jones, Mike Groah,Jim boyer, and Chris Tracy-good to see who is who.So Charlie Miller's Piet that he flew in-is that Ford powered ? Couldn't tell from the photo. Also you say it wasCharlie's "longest cross country" ? Could you elaborate any ?Thank you for posting-Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:37:49 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I'm flattered. That's the first straightforward compliment I've gotten inmy years on this list. Thanks Mike.Looks are about the end of similarity, though. I can talk the talk, butJack actually walks the walk.The WCP meet was very inspiring. We got to see two projects at a good stageand a beautifully done flying Piet.I was fired up enough to cut some control horn metal when I got home.Mike Hardaway(I'm taller than Jack) _____
I'm flattered. That's the first straightforward compliment I've gotten inmy years on this list. Thanks Mike.Looks are about the end of similarity, though. I can talk the talk, butJack actually walks the walk.The WCP meet was very inspiring. We got to see two projects at a good stageand a beautifully done flying Piet.I was fired up enough to cut some control horn metal when I got home.Mike Hardaway(I'm taller than Jack) _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: castoring vs. steerable
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: castoring vs. steerable
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: RBush96589(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-togetherThat's GREAT Mike Hardaway that your West Coast Piet gathering got you fired upenough to cut some control horn metal when yougot home. Excellent. As I recall not only did you fly jets in (was it Vietnam ?) but you're one of thefew attorneys that I actually really respect. (plus you'rebuilding a Pietenpol---you have to be a decent sort. So you are taller than East Coast Jack Phillips ? Are you building (I shouldn'teven ask) the long fuselage version ? Madison John Hofmann likes to use that term "properly sized person". First timehe said that it took me a few seconds butthen ever since it always makes me smile at the creativeness of it. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-togetherThat's GREAT Mike Hardaway that your West Coast Piet gathering got you fired upenough to cut some control horn metal when yougot home. Excellent. As I recall not only did you fly jets in (was it Vietnam ?) but you're one of thefew attorneys that I actually really respect. (plus you'rebuilding a Pietenpol---you have to be a decent sort. So you are taller than East Coast Jack Phillips ? Are you building (I shouldn'teven ask) the long fuselage version ? Madison John Hofmann likes to use that term "properly sized person". First timehe said that it took me a few seconds butthen ever since it always makes me smile at the creativeness of it. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mike,Charlie Miller's Piet was a joint project with his father, to whom Charliegives major credit. It is actually a very touching story..He confessed that it was about 165 miles (don't laugh, Jack!). Charlie getsgreat pleasure out of local flights and lives in a very beautiful part ofCalifornia. It's a 65 Continental, but is well healed with somewhere around24 gallons of fuel, if I remember correctly. He is very interested in theen-mass gaggle of Piets to Brodhead in 2011!!! I think we may use him forin-flight refueling..Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____
Mike,Charlie Miller's Piet was a joint project with his father, to whom Charliegives major credit. It is actually a very touching story..He confessed that it was about 165 miles (don't laugh, Jack!). Charlie getsgreat pleasure out of local flights and lives in a very beautiful part ofCalifornia. It's a 65 Continental, but is well healed with somewhere around24 gallons of fuel, if I remember correctly. He is very interested in theen-mass gaggle of Piets to Brodhead in 2011!!! I think we may use him forin-flight refueling..Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Charlie Miller's Piet. One correction, it has a C-85.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message -----
Charlie Miller's Piet. One correction, it has a C-85.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: No RPM drop on mag check??
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sounds like you have a cruise prop on it. I have what is supposed to be aclimb prop on mine and get about 2100 RPM static, and climb at 2150. Atfull throttle in level flight I can't quite reach redline, so I need a bitless prop as well. To actually get 65 hp from an A65, it needs to beturning at 2300 RPM.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Sounds like you have a cruise prop on it. I have what is supposed to be aclimb prop on mine and get about 2100 RPM static, and climb at 2150. Atfull throttle in level flight I can't quite reach redline, so I need a bitless prop as well. To actually get 65 hp from an A65, it needs to beturning at 2300 RPM.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
I never saw the original picture of the "gang of thieves".would someone please send me the picture(s) of the WestCoast Get-together directly?Also, I'm not ruling out a flight in the OTHER direction...from TX to Oregon. Probably happen spring 2010 and may takeme through Los Alamos and on up that way. Or else I'llbe flying the "Big L"- Interstate 10 west to California, then hang a right and go Interstate 5 all the way north toOregon. Lots of flying friends to visit along the way.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
I never saw the original picture of the "gang of thieves".would someone please send me the picture(s) of the WestCoast Get-together directly?Also, I'm not ruling out a flight in the OTHER direction...from TX to Oregon. Probably happen spring 2010 and may takeme through Los Alamos and on up that way. Or else I'llbe flying the "Big L"- Interstate 10 west to California, then hang a right and go Interstate 5 all the way north toOregon. Lots of flying friends to visit along the way.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: No RPM drop on mag check??
Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
My numbers with 41CC when the 65 was on it were almostexactly the same as Mike Cuy's. What prop does it haveon it (dia./pitch)?I really don't see much benefit to a "cruise" prop on aPiet. You're gonna cruise it at 70-72 with a smallContinental on it so go ahead and use a prop that willgive you the best climb performance.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: No RPM drop on mag check??
My numbers with 41CC when the 65 was on it were almostexactly the same as Mike Cuy's. What prop does it haveon it (dia./pitch)?I really don't see much benefit to a "cruise" prop on aPiet. You're gonna cruise it at 70-72 with a smallContinental on it so go ahead and use a prop that willgive you the best climb performance.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: No RPM drop on mag check??
Original Posted By: shad bell
Dan,Without fully understanding what's going on, and without an extensive knowledgeof your engine, it's somewhat difficult to figure out what's going on. A fewquestions might inform the audience.Are the mags and ignition harnesses, & spark plugs - new, used, worn out? Explaintheir condition, as it might help.How about the mechanical condition of the engine? Rebuilt? Describe.What fuel are you using?Perhaps there's no problem at all. Even though our expectation is that the engineSHOULD show an rpm drop, that is not always the case... On a plane I flyregularly, the entire ignition system was recently replaced, i.e., new mags, harnesses,plugs, and correctly timed. When the plane was put back into service,there was an imperceptible rpm drop.It turned out, with a near perfect ignition system, clean fuel, etc., the enginewas burning so clean and completely that there was no discernible drop in rpmduring mag check. Hope this adds some insight.TK--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
Dan,Without fully understanding what's going on, and without an extensive knowledgeof your engine, it's somewhat difficult to figure out what's going on. A fewquestions might inform the audience.Are the mags and ignition harnesses, & spark plugs - new, used, worn out? Explaintheir condition, as it might help.How about the mechanical condition of the engine? Rebuilt? Describe.What fuel are you using?Perhaps there's no problem at all. Even though our expectation is that the engineSHOULD show an rpm drop, that is not always the case... On a plane I flyregularly, the entire ignition system was recently replaced, i.e., new mags, harnesses,plugs, and correctly timed. When the plane was put back into service,there was an imperceptible rpm drop.It turned out, with a near perfect ignition system, clean fuel, etc., the enginewas burning so clean and completely that there was no discernible drop in rpmduring mag check. Hope this adds some insight.TK--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: castoring vs. steerable
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I would say one more thing about the tail wheel thing. In addition to fully steerable Don't put springs in the linkage. The Sonex guys all use a direct link with no springs. The certified guys all use springs in the linkage and in a strong wind you still need brake or the wind wins. Just an opinion.That said there are going to be times that nothing will work except having a wheel on the other end. There were days we could not fly the 180 because even with both brakes locked it woud spin into the wind just sitting there. made for lots of fun just getting it back to the tiedown!Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow OhioSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: castoring vs. steerableDate: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 08:37:56 -0400
I would say one more thing about the tail wheel thing. In addition to fully steerable Don't put springs in the linkage. The Sonex guys all use a direct link with no springs. The certified guys all use springs in the linkage and in a strong wind you still need brake or the wind wins. Just an opinion.That said there are going to be times that nothing will work except having a wheel on the other end. There were days we could not fly the 180 because even with both brakes locked it woud spin into the wind just sitting there. made for lots of fun just getting it back to the tiedown!Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow OhioSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: castoring vs. steerableDate: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 08:37:56 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 redline
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
I'm the same as Mike with the same size prop and engine--Jim Lagowski with a 1/2 hour to go to 40 hours.----- Original Message -----
I'm the same as Mike with the same size prop and engine--Jim Lagowski with a 1/2 hour to go to 40 hours.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: "BYD"
does anybody have the name or number of a supplier in Tulsa or ft. wort Dallasarea that might sell . .020 or .025 2024 T-3 sheet? I'm going through there inthe next week but if I can't locate any I'd just as soon go ahead and place anorder. thanks. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Get-together
does anybody have the name or number of a supplier in Tulsa or ft. wort Dallasarea that might sell . .020 or .025 2024 T-3 sheet? I'm going through there inthe next week but if I can't locate any I'd just as soon go ahead and place anorder. thanks. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Get-together
Re: Pietenpol-List: aluminum
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aluminumContact me off listJohnIn a message dated 9/23/2009 2:33:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skellflyer1(at)yahoo.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "skellytown flyer" does anybody have the name or number of a supplier in Tulsa or ft. wort Dallas area that might sell . .020 or .025 2024 T-3 sheet? I'm going through there in the next week but if I can't locate any I'd just as soon go ahead and place an order. thanks. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:14:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aluminumContact me off listJohnIn a message dated 9/23/2009 2:33:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skellflyer1(at)yahoo.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "skellytown flyer" does anybody have the name or number of a supplier in Tulsa or ft. wort Dallas area that might sell . .020 or .025 2024 T-3 sheet? I'm going through there in the next week but if I can't locate any I'd just as soon go ahead and place an order. thanks. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:14:36 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How will the vendor do?
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Darrel Jones wrote:> Three of my trips to Oshkosh have been up through Oregon and Washington, > through Glacier Park Pass and across Montana.> If the WCP group flies this route I would love to join them. Flying this routein return I HIGHLY recommend stopping at Cut Bank, Montana to overnight beforemaking a morning run at the Rockies. Cut Bank was a WW2 B-17 base and thenlater an airline terminal stop and they still have the rooms that the crews usedto get rest (small room with a bed) which last I knew were free to use. Alsoa kitchen and lounge with couches and TV. Great spot and friendly people.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:28:39 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How will the vendor do?
Darrel Jones wrote:> Three of my trips to Oshkosh have been up through Oregon and Washington, > through Glacier Park Pass and across Montana.> If the WCP group flies this route I would love to join them. Flying this routein return I HIGHLY recommend stopping at Cut Bank, Montana to overnight beforemaking a morning run at the Rockies. Cut Bank was a WW2 B-17 base and thenlater an airline terminal stop and they still have the rooms that the crews usedto get rest (small room with a bed) which last I knew were free to use. Alsoa kitchen and lounge with couches and TV. Great spot and friendly people.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:28:39 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How will the vendor do?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Get-together
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD
BYD,I've been to Cutbank and done work there. They say the snow never melts....it justblows back and forth 'till it wears out!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
BYD,I've been to Cutbank and done work there. They say the snow never melts....it justblows back and forth 'till it wears out!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Annual Condition Inspection of an amateur built airplane and the Annual Inspection of a certified aircraft are identical in scope and procedure. The difference lies in wording, where the information lives, who can perform the duties and is not just semantic in nature. The Annual Inspection of a certified aircraft and wording can be found in 14 CFR Part 43. Wording is similar to "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected in accordance with an annual inspection and was determined to be in airworthy condition." The wording for an Annual Condition Inspection can be found in the Operating Limitations of the subject aircraft. That wording is usually close to "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected in accordance with the scope and detail of Appendix D of 14 CFR part 43, and found to be in condition for safe operation." Note that a certified airplane is inspected to "airworthy condition" and an amateur built aircraft is inspected to "condition for safe operation," not airworthy condition.Amateur built airplanes are only required to have the Annual Condition Inspection in the logbook but the FAA "suggests" that routine maintenance be included as well. Anyone can perform maintenance on an amateur built airplane. Only the holder of the repairman certificate or "FAA-certificated mechanics with appropriate ratings as authorized by...(A&P mechanic)" may perform the annual condition inspection. An IA is not required for an Annual Condition Inspection on an amateur built aircraft.Hypothetical Practical Application: Our own Dan Yocum has recently purchased Ol' 8031. He proceeds to change the oil, bleed the brakes, check compression. clean the plugs and fly, all without a logbook entry. That is fine. He then installs a transponder and motorcycle battery to power it. Once again, fine. Since he does not hold the repairman certificate he calls upon me as an A&P (which I am) to help him with his annual condition inspection. At that time I see that the transponder and routine maintenance is up to par but I don't like the battery installation as he used black licorice to hold it in. I state that for safe operation he should change the way he fastens the battery to red licorice or a "more better" system. The change is made and Ol' 8031 is once again in "condition for safe operation."Hope this helps and not one Waldo Pepper reference....and yes I am hoping to have my IA in the next year or so.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Sep 23, 2009, at 12:55 PM, tkreiner wrote:> Annual Inspections must also be signed off by an IA, but if during > the inspection a problem is found where a repair is warranted, you > may perform the repair and the IA can sign it off.________________________________________________________________________________
Annual Condition Inspection of an amateur built airplane and the Annual Inspection of a certified aircraft are identical in scope and procedure. The difference lies in wording, where the information lives, who can perform the duties and is not just semantic in nature. The Annual Inspection of a certified aircraft and wording can be found in 14 CFR Part 43. Wording is similar to "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected in accordance with an annual inspection and was determined to be in airworthy condition." The wording for an Annual Condition Inspection can be found in the Operating Limitations of the subject aircraft. That wording is usually close to "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected in accordance with the scope and detail of Appendix D of 14 CFR part 43, and found to be in condition for safe operation." Note that a certified airplane is inspected to "airworthy condition" and an amateur built aircraft is inspected to "condition for safe operation," not airworthy condition.Amateur built airplanes are only required to have the Annual Condition Inspection in the logbook but the FAA "suggests" that routine maintenance be included as well. Anyone can perform maintenance on an amateur built airplane. Only the holder of the repairman certificate or "FAA-certificated mechanics with appropriate ratings as authorized by...(A&P mechanic)" may perform the annual condition inspection. An IA is not required for an Annual Condition Inspection on an amateur built aircraft.Hypothetical Practical Application: Our own Dan Yocum has recently purchased Ol' 8031. He proceeds to change the oil, bleed the brakes, check compression. clean the plugs and fly, all without a logbook entry. That is fine. He then installs a transponder and motorcycle battery to power it. Once again, fine. Since he does not hold the repairman certificate he calls upon me as an A&P (which I am) to help him with his annual condition inspection. At that time I see that the transponder and routine maintenance is up to par but I don't like the battery installation as he used black licorice to hold it in. I state that for safe operation he should change the way he fastens the battery to red licorice or a "more better" system. The change is made and Ol' 8031 is once again in "condition for safe operation."Hope this helps and not one Waldo Pepper reference....and yes I am hoping to have my IA in the next year or so.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Sep 23, 2009, at 12:55 PM, tkreiner wrote:> Annual Inspections must also be signed off by an IA, but if during > the inspection a problem is found where a repair is warranted, you > may perform the repair and the IA can sign it off.________________________________________________________________________________
> Pietenpol-List: No RPM drop on mag check??
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
>> >>> Hi all,>> I finally found a really great guy to go toolin' around with to burn> off the 10 hours the insurance company is requiring. We spent a> fantastic 1.2 hours in N8031 last night. Temps were perfect, wind> was calm, and I even nearly greased my first landing in a Piet!> What a great night.>> Anyway, when I was doing the run-up I observed no RPM drop when> checking the mags. Whoa! Something's a-miss. "Off" works as> advertised, so I don't think the mags are hot.>> Googling suggests the following:>> 1. Open p-leads causing hot mags.> 2. Mag timing advanced beyond the specified setting> 3. Defective ignition switch> 4. Open in the grounding circuit of the feed through the capacitors> (Bendix S-1200 series mags)> 5. Open magneto capacitors.>> I've got Eisemann mags, so I don't know if the Bendix specific> warnings are applicable.>> Since it's affecting both mags, I'm leaning toward defective> ignition switch.>> Anyone else have any other suggestions?>> Thanks,> Dan>>> -- Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum(at)fnal.gov> ,> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > Fermilab. .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> target=_blank>http://www.matroni;> -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" ======>>> *>>> *--Dan YocumFermilab 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.govFermilab. Just zeros and ones.________________________________________________________________________________
>> >>> Hi all,>> I finally found a really great guy to go toolin' around with to burn> off the 10 hours the insurance company is requiring. We spent a> fantastic 1.2 hours in N8031 last night. Temps were perfect, wind> was calm, and I even nearly greased my first landing in a Piet!> What a great night.>> Anyway, when I was doing the run-up I observed no RPM drop when> checking the mags. Whoa! Something's a-miss. "Off" works as> advertised, so I don't think the mags are hot.>> Googling suggests the following:>> 1. Open p-leads causing hot mags.> 2. Mag timing advanced beyond the specified setting> 3. Defective ignition switch> 4. Open in the grounding circuit of the feed through the capacitors> (Bendix S-1200 series mags)> 5. Open magneto capacitors.>> I've got Eisemann mags, so I don't know if the Bendix specific> warnings are applicable.>> Since it's affecting both mags, I'm leaning toward defective> ignition switch.>> Anyone else have any other suggestions?>> Thanks,> Dan>>> -- Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum(at)fnal.gov> ,> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > Fermilab. .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> target=_blank>http://www.matroni;> -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" ======>>> *>>> *--Dan YocumFermilab 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.govFermilab. Just zeros and ones.________________________________________________________________________________
>> Pietenpol-List: No RPM drop on mag check??
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
>>>> >>>>> Hi all,>>>> I finally found a really great guy to go toolin' around with to burn>> off the 10 hours the insurance company is requiring. We spent a>> fantastic 1.2 hours in N8031 last night. Temps were perfect, wind>> was calm, and I even nearly greased my first landing in a Piet!>> What a great night.>>>> Anyway, when I was doing the run-up I observed no RPM drop when>> checking the mags. Whoa! Something's a-miss. "Off" works as>> advertised, so I don't think the mags are hot.>>>> Googling suggests the following:>>>> 1. Open p-leads causing hot mags.>> 2. Mag timing advanced beyond the specified setting>> 3. Defective ignition switch>> 4. Open in the grounding circuit of the feed through the capacitors>> (Bendix S-1200 series mags)>> 5. Open magneto capacitors.>>>> I've got Eisemann mags, so I don't know if the Bendix specific>> warnings are applicable.>>>> Since it's affecting both mags, I'm leaning toward defective>> ignition switch.>>>> Anyone else have any other suggestions?>>>> Thanks,>> Dan>>>>>>>>>> -- Dan Yocum>> Fermilab 630.840.6509>> yocum(at)fnal.gov>> ,>> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> Fermilab. .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> target=_blank>http://www.matroni;>> -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" ======>>>>>>>>>> *>>>>>> *> > --> Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.> > > > > > > > > -- Dan YocumFermilab 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.govFermilab. Just zeros and ones.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:01:45 -0500
>>>> >>>>> Hi all,>>>> I finally found a really great guy to go toolin' around with to burn>> off the 10 hours the insurance company is requiring. We spent a>> fantastic 1.2 hours in N8031 last night. Temps were perfect, wind>> was calm, and I even nearly greased my first landing in a Piet!>> What a great night.>>>> Anyway, when I was doing the run-up I observed no RPM drop when>> checking the mags. Whoa! Something's a-miss. "Off" works as>> advertised, so I don't think the mags are hot.>>>> Googling suggests the following:>>>> 1. Open p-leads causing hot mags.>> 2. Mag timing advanced beyond the specified setting>> 3. Defective ignition switch>> 4. Open in the grounding circuit of the feed through the capacitors>> (Bendix S-1200 series mags)>> 5. Open magneto capacitors.>>>> I've got Eisemann mags, so I don't know if the Bendix specific>> warnings are applicable.>>>> Since it's affecting both mags, I'm leaning toward defective>> ignition switch.>>>> Anyone else have any other suggestions?>>>> Thanks,>> Dan>>>>>>>>>> -- Dan Yocum>> Fermilab 630.840.6509>> yocum(at)fnal.gov>> ,>> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> Fermilab. .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> target=_blank>http://www.matroni;>> -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" ======>>>>>>>>>> *>>>>>> *> > --> Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.> > > > > > > > > -- Dan YocumFermilab 630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.govFermilab. Just zeros and ones.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:01:45 -0500