Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approachI've experimented with various airspeeds on final and I can divide my resultsup into a few simple categories: Power-off approach: 60 mph indicated: very steep angle to keep speed up, a few seconds in the flare/roundoutto feel for the runway55 mph indicated: still a steep angle too keep speed up but not as dramatic. Less time in the flare, not much at all. Power-on slightly approach60 mph indicated: Chopping the power as you roundout. Lots of time in the floatand a much shallower approach angle.55 mph indicated: Chopping the power as you roundout. Less time in the floatand same shallower approach angle. The first few times I landed my plane I flared high and plunked it in a bit. You have to get a lot lower thanyou think to touch down nicely in a Pietenpol and if you flare too high you'regoing to drop out onto the runwaybecause there's much drag associated with our planes so they don't nearly floatlike a Champ, Taylorcraft, or Luscombemight. Lastly-I have used 50 mph indicated on power off approaches to fly into a friends1,300' strip and boylet me just say that you have to round out right next to Mother Earth and expectmilliseconds in the float:) ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Original Posted By: Lloyd Smith
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
RE: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or notshe have a sister?In a message dated 9/24/2009 3:05:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle My story is also a good one. I was working on the instrument panel lastweek and my wife walked into the shop. As she was sweeping up (ok, I made up that first part) but she did look at the panel and say "when are yougoing to stop changing that thing and just install it and move ahead?".....Not only is it fantastic that she's encouraging me to keep going but....she actually notices what I'm working on and what's going on with it...wow. I didn't actually realize she was paying that much attention.She once considered taking weekly pictures of my shop to see if any newtools showed up in "this week's picture" that weren't in "last week's picture"....she didn't but probably should have!And anytime I order a tool and try to justify the expense with "But I won't spend much since I'm getting it at Harbor Freight or wherever..." she always says no, let's spend the money and get ONLY quality tools. Let's not waste any money on anything less than the best.She has made it VERY clear that SHE will get the first passenger ride andmany more rides together after that...Life is good..-----Original Message----->From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com>Sent: Sep 24, 2009 12:00 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or not>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: brian.e.jardine@L-3com.com>>Mine is a similar story...the practice wife hated any kind of aviation.After the divorce and dust settled, I bought a 3000 sq ft hangar, converted 1000 sq feet into a 2-story condo inside, which my buddies have nicked named the (slut hut), and the rest is my Piet factory. It's full speed ahead on Piet building, and nice not to have someone say are you coming in from the garage yet? Oh wait..I live in that big fancy garage.
>>Brian>SLC, UT>>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]>Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:30 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or not>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRCAerospace Corporation]" >>Kenny Mellert is a really cool old guy at a local airport and about 10years ago>he decided after raising a family and having grandkids that he would getback>into flying after a 40 year hiatus. >>Kenny's wife despised anything to do with airplanes and flying and threatened>to divorce Kenny if he went out and bought that Cessna 172 he'd had hiseye on. >The then 70 year old Kenny said he'd put up with enough of her bullshitover>the years (excuse Kenny's French but that's how he told the story) andtold>Barb "well I'm gonna miss you honey" and went out and BOUGHT that 172and has>flown the heck out of it the past 10 years. >>Barb never did divorce him. He's a bit disappointed that she didn=99t keep her word. Now that's LOVE ! >>Mike C. >>do not archive>>============================================================================================================================================________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approachDate: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:17:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or notshe have a sister?In a message dated 9/24/2009 3:05:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle My story is also a good one. I was working on the instrument panel lastweek and my wife walked into the shop. As she was sweeping up (ok, I made up that first part) but she did look at the panel and say "when are yougoing to stop changing that thing and just install it and move ahead?".....Not only is it fantastic that she's encouraging me to keep going but....she actually notices what I'm working on and what's going on with it...wow. I didn't actually realize she was paying that much attention.She once considered taking weekly pictures of my shop to see if any newtools showed up in "this week's picture" that weren't in "last week's picture"....she didn't but probably should have!And anytime I order a tool and try to justify the expense with "But I won't spend much since I'm getting it at Harbor Freight or wherever..." she always says no, let's spend the money and get ONLY quality tools. Let's not waste any money on anything less than the best.She has made it VERY clear that SHE will get the first passenger ride andmany more rides together after that...Life is good..-----Original Message----->From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com>Sent: Sep 24, 2009 12:00 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or not>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: brian.e.jardine@L-3com.com>>Mine is a similar story...the practice wife hated any kind of aviation.After the divorce and dust settled, I bought a 3000 sq ft hangar, converted 1000 sq feet into a 2-story condo inside, which my buddies have nicked named the (slut hut), and the rest is my Piet factory. It's full speed ahead on Piet building, and nice not to have someone say are you coming in from the garage yet? Oh wait..I live in that big fancy garage.
>>Brian>SLC, UT>>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]>Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:30 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: spousal aviation support, or not>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRCAerospace Corporation]" >>Kenny Mellert is a really cool old guy at a local airport and about 10years ago>he decided after raising a family and having grandkids that he would getback>into flying after a 40 year hiatus. >>Kenny's wife despised anything to do with airplanes and flying and threatened>to divorce Kenny if he went out and bought that Cessna 172 he'd had hiseye on. >The then 70 year old Kenny said he'd put up with enough of her bullshitover>the years (excuse Kenny's French but that's how he told the story) andtold>Barb "well I'm gonna miss you honey" and went out and BOUGHT that 172and has>flown the heck out of it the past 10 years. >>Barb never did divorce him. He's a bit disappointed that she didn=99t keep her word. Now that's LOVE ! >>Mike C. >>do not archive>>============================================================================================================================================________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approachDate: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:17:36 -0400Pietenpol-List: Re: spousal aviation support, or not
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
I had to sell my Piet project during the divorce of my trainer wife. I actuallyshed a tear as it went down the road(the Piet not the wife). Several years laterwhile Sue and I were at Brodhead and just a couple weeks before our wedding.I found out that my Piet was again up for sale due to health problems withthe owner. My newfound love not only suggested that I buy it back but offeredit as a wedding gift to me. I was dumbfounded. I am keeping both of them for lifethis time around. Sue is extremely supportive of my working on the Piet andwill often suggest that I go out to work in the shop because she knows thatmakes me happy. She gets the first ride too!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I had to sell my Piet project during the divorce of my trainer wife. I actuallyshed a tear as it went down the road(the Piet not the wife). Several years laterwhile Sue and I were at Brodhead and just a couple weeks before our wedding.I found out that my Piet was again up for sale due to health problems withthe owner. My newfound love not only suggested that I buy it back but offeredit as a wedding gift to me. I was dumbfounded. I am keeping both of them for lifethis time around. Sue is extremely supportive of my working on the Piet andwill often suggest that I go out to work in the shop because she knows thatmakes me happy. She gets the first ride too!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Original Posted By: Lloyd Smith
The slut hut? Some kind of strange works going on in that Piet plant.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:57:55 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
The slut hut? Some kind of strange works going on in that Piet plant.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:57:55 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airspeeds on final approach
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spousal aviation support, or not
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Pietenpol-List: totally unrelated--but if you like North American P-51Mustangs By far this was the best warbird event my wife and I have ever been to--- Gatheringof Mustangs and Legends in Columbus, Ohio two years ago.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5hIR5BJ ... ______Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:42:25 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spousal aviation support, or not
Subject: Pietenpol-List: totally unrelated--but if you like North American P-51Mustangs By far this was the best warbird event my wife and I have ever been to--- Gatheringof Mustangs and Legends in Columbus, Ohio two years ago.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5hIR5BJ ... ______Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:42:25 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spousal aviation support, or not