Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Can someone tell me how to get the light duty staple gun that I've seen usedat OSH to build the ribs? I think it was shooting common office style ofstaples. If you can provide a model number, source, and/or price.. thatwould be very helpful.MarkLake City, FLStarting ribs________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas and LexanI've spilled avgas on my front windshield many times and have never had to replace it. There havebeen zero adverse effects from avgas when splashed on Lexan, at least in my 11 years of flying withthat windshield.I did have to replace the rear windshield once where it appeared to me that the stress of the bendingeventually promoted stress fractures radiating from around the bracket and at the edge of the roundedcorner at the two bottom corners of the windshield. At the end of one flying season one of the microfractures turned into a crack about an inch long so I used the drill-stop method to keep it frompropagating and then replaced the rear windshield the next Spring.Mike C.There are PPP's Pietenpol Plexiglas Proponents and then there are PLP's, Pietenpol Lexan Proponents.The PLP's are generally more handsome and get more women than the PPP's. It's a proven fact:)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:30:15 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Subject: Pietenpol-List: avgas and LexanI've spilled avgas on my front windshield many times and have never had to replace it. There havebeen zero adverse effects from avgas when splashed on Lexan, at least in my 11 years of flying withthat windshield.I did have to replace the rear windshield once where it appeared to me that the stress of the bendingeventually promoted stress fractures radiating from around the bracket and at the edge of the roundedcorner at the two bottom corners of the windshield. At the end of one flying season one of the microfractures turned into a crack about an inch long so I used the drill-stop method to keep it frompropagating and then replaced the rear windshield the next Spring.Mike C.There are PPP's Pietenpol Plexiglas Proponents and then there are PLP's, Pietenpol Lexan Proponents.The PLP's are generally more handsome and get more women than the PPP's. It's a proven fact:)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:30:15 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Pietenpol-List: Re: 5 minutes
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Awesome! I can't wait.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:34:25 -0500
Awesome! I can't wait.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:34:25 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: avgas and Lexan
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing choicesMy reasoning for using the 3 piece wing:You can move everything, during every phase of wing building by yourself.Scarf joints don't look like any fun at all.You can pre-assemble for rigging, strut measurements, etc before covering by yourself-I did it.If you groundloop and smash one wing into the ground and break a spar you only have to fix one wing panel.The additional weight of a 3 piece wing has been exaggerated from time to time-you can still build a nice, light plane using a 3 pce wing.You can build a 3 pce wing Piet in a single car garage. Steve Eldredge from Utah is a prime example. I also had just a 1 car garage butused the living room to build the wings because it was nice and warm in there and it was close to the remote, chips, and fridge.You can add dihedral to a 3 pce wing easier than you can a 1 pce wing. There is no stress imparted to the spars when putting dihedral into a 3 pce wing.You can use a 1987 Honda CRX Si to move your wing panels to the airport for painting, assembly, back to the house until spring, or just take them for ice cream.Makes life easier when routing things like aileron cables, pitot-static poly tubing, and covering.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: avgas and Lexan
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing choicesMy reasoning for using the 3 piece wing:You can move everything, during every phase of wing building by yourself.Scarf joints don't look like any fun at all.You can pre-assemble for rigging, strut measurements, etc before covering by yourself-I did it.If you groundloop and smash one wing into the ground and break a spar you only have to fix one wing panel.The additional weight of a 3 piece wing has been exaggerated from time to time-you can still build a nice, light plane using a 3 pce wing.You can build a 3 pce wing Piet in a single car garage. Steve Eldredge from Utah is a prime example. I also had just a 1 car garage butused the living room to build the wings because it was nice and warm in there and it was close to the remote, chips, and fridge.You can add dihedral to a 3 pce wing easier than you can a 1 pce wing. There is no stress imparted to the spars when putting dihedral into a 3 pce wing.You can use a 1987 Honda CRX Si to move your wing panels to the airport for painting, assembly, back to the house until spring, or just take them for ice cream.Makes life easier when routing things like aileron cables, pitot-static poly tubing, and covering.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: avgas and Lexan
Re: Pietenpol-List: 5 minutes
Original Posted By: santiago morete
Pietenpol-List: Spar splice
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
RE: Pietenpol-List: 5 minutes
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I figured that your windscreen took out most of the remaining insectpopulation and your wings probably had some biological vortex generatorsattached. Ah, the joys of low and slow. BTW, that is a cool iPhone app. I just now bought it.-----Original Message-----
I figured that your windscreen took out most of the remaining insectpopulation and your wings probably had some biological vortex generatorsattached. Ah, the joys of low and slow. BTW, that is a cool iPhone app. I just now bought it.-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!Gene ----- Original Message -----
just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!Gene ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Push/Pull on elevator
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
You will need to make an intermediate pivot point just behind the seat. Check out Gary Boothe's pictures on www.westcoastpiet.com and see how he did it. Very nicely done.Just make sure you don't change the control travel geometry.Nothing wrong with cables and pulleys per the plans but the push/pull tube will clean up the cockpit nicely.Greg C. ----- Original Message -----
You will need to make an intermediate pivot point just behind the seat. Check out Gary Boothe's pictures on www.westcoastpiet.com and see how he did it. Very nicely done.Just make sure you don't change the control travel geometry.Nothing wrong with cables and pulleys per the plans but the push/pull tube will clean up the cockpit nicely.Greg C. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Tip Bows
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
ya know, I really don't know. I HAVE seen old wings (Stearman, etc) where the steel nails have rusted and it does make a mess as they swell, etc, when they rust. Don't know whether it really hurts anything.Gene ----- Original Message -----
ya know, I really don't know. I HAVE seen old wings (Stearman, etc) where the steel nails have rusted and it does make a mess as they swell, etc, when they rust. Don't know whether it really hurts anything.Gene ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
I have found that a common screwdriver, bent and filed to a shallow chisel end, is a great staple-removing aid. The bent end acts like a mini nail-puller, you can rock it on the gusset and get some leverage.David Paule----- Original Message -----
I have found that a common screwdriver, bent and filed to a shallow chisel end, is a great staple-removing aid. The bent end acts like a mini nail-puller, you can rock it on the gusset and get some leverage.David Paule----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: 5 minutes
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Dan; excellent video. It really captures the essence ofa typical Piet flight, or at least part of it.I notice that at least one of your lift struts has a splicein it. I also notice that your airplane wants to make carbice as readily as mine does ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Dan; excellent video. It really captures the essence ofa typical Piet flight, or at least part of it.I notice that at least one of your lift struts has a splicein it. I also notice that your airplane wants to make carbice as readily as mine does ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
These pins are so tiny any rusting will be insignificant.Remember, the ribs are, like everything else in theplane, overbuilt. We're not looking for any strength,just location. Even on a flat surface the gussets willslide and creep by themselves sometimes.Clif----- Original Message -----
These pins are so tiny any rusting will be insignificant.Remember, the ribs are, like everything else in theplane, overbuilt. We're not looking for any strength,just location. Even on a flat surface the gussets willslide and creep by themselves sometimes.Clif----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By:> Matt Redmond
There is internal moisture in the spruce and the plywood, plus oxygen. Youcan seal it all you want and it will still rust and cause damage to thewood. If you are not going to pull out the fasteners, they must be coatedaircraft nails. What I did was to use a light duty Stanley staple gun, model TR45. Used No.3 light duty staples, both 1/4 and 5/16 inch. Once the parts have cured,used a small end nipper, nail puller to remove the staples. Ricks S.> [Original Message]
There is internal moisture in the spruce and the plywood, plus oxygen. Youcan seal it all you want and it will still rust and cause damage to thewood. If you are not going to pull out the fasteners, they must be coatedaircraft nails. What I did was to use a light duty Stanley staple gun, model TR45. Used No.3 light duty staples, both 1/4 and 5/16 inch. Once the parts have cured,used a small end nipper, nail puller to remove the staples. Ricks S.> [Original Message]
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By:> > Matt Redmond
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun>>> Think it'll hurt anything? I imagine it'll take many years for them> to rust. They are coated with something and will be varnished over as> well.>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:> > just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!> >> > Gene> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun>>> Think it'll hurt anything? I imagine it'll take many years for them> to rust. They are coated with something and will be varnished over as> well.>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:> > just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!> >> > Gene> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun
Original Posted By:>> > Matt Redmond
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun>>>>>> Think it'll hurt anything? I imagine it'll take many years for them>> to rust. They are coated with something and will be varnished over as>> well.>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:>> > just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!>> >>> > Gene>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Staple Gun>>>>>> Think it'll hurt anything? I imagine it'll take many years for them>> to rust. They are coated with something and will be varnished over as>> well.>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:>> > just remember, those itty bitty pins WILL rust down in there!>> >>> > Gene>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----