Original Posted By: Jim Markle
I am in the process of tensioning my wing drag wires and i would like to tensionthem using a tensioner instead of a "tone" i searched the archives and founda tensioner you can make from macs machine. Does anyone know the proper tensionin pounds for these cables? 10-20-30-40?? I used 1/8" 7x19 stainless cable.Any help would be appreciated. It seems you could keep tightening them untilsomething breaks. ThanksChrisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:26:51 -0400 (EDT)
Pietenpol-List: CABLE TENSION?
Pietenpol-List: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Re: Pietenpol-List: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: "TOPGUN"
ChrisTension by ear is much more accurate than any gauge. Tighten slowly and evenly until you hear a "FWANG" Don't keep tightening till you start hearing any kind of tone like a PING. It's really pretty easy.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
ChrisTension by ear is much more accurate than any gauge. Tighten slowly and evenly until you hear a "FWANG" Don't keep tightening till you start hearing any kind of tone like a PING. It's really pretty easy.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Good stuff....
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Re: Pietenpol-List: translating Jorge's post- #1
Original Posted By: Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov
Great to read you again Jim... how are you..? and off course Jim ... just waiting for a trip to Oklahoma________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
Great to read you again Jim... how are you..? and off course Jim ... just waiting for a trip to Oklahoma________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Good stuff....
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I vote for Churchy LaFemme, but then I was always a big Pogo fan.Jack PhillipsNX899JP Icarus Plummet (named by Churchy LeFemme)Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
I vote for Churchy LaFemme, but then I was always a big Pogo fan.Jack PhillipsNX899JP Icarus Plummet (named by Churchy LeFemme)Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don Emch-- brilliant---- throttle setupI did mine like the plans show. It seems to be at about the right height for meto use my thigh as an arm rest. The rod is just a 1/4" steel rod that is threadedat each end with a 1/4-28 die. There is no lever in the front cockpit,it just connects to a Bowden cable. When a front passenger is flying they justgrab onto the rod and control the throttle that way. I was concerned abouthaving a lever up there that could get caught on a passenger's clothing, jacketor arm and could limit my use of it. It could happen and they might not evenknow they are hung up on it. I'm very leary of having stuff up front thatcan be disturbed by unknowing passengers.This is simply brilliant. I think Don talked with Frank Pavliga (I'm making anassumption here) about Frank's extra large XXL passenger he took up in SkyGypsy and on landing Frankcould NOT throttle back because the knob in the front seat was binding on his XXLpassenger's winter coat and the XXXL passenger didn't know it !!!! Frank was able to land safely but cutting the mag switch many times on final approachto descend and land. (like the old WWI blip-switches where you had eitherfull power or a windmilling propeller) Thank God that Frank's throttle did not get stuck on this passenger's coat whenattempting say a go around on a botched landing.....You take yer chances. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don Emch-- brilliant---- throttle setupI did mine like the plans show. It seems to be at about the right height for meto use my thigh as an arm rest. The rod is just a 1/4" steel rod that is threadedat each end with a 1/4-28 die. There is no lever in the front cockpit,it just connects to a Bowden cable. When a front passenger is flying they justgrab onto the rod and control the throttle that way. I was concerned abouthaving a lever up there that could get caught on a passenger's clothing, jacketor arm and could limit my use of it. It could happen and they might not evenknow they are hung up on it. I'm very leary of having stuff up front thatcan be disturbed by unknowing passengers.This is simply brilliant. I think Don talked with Frank Pavliga (I'm making anassumption here) about Frank's extra large XXL passenger he took up in SkyGypsy and on landing Frankcould NOT throttle back because the knob in the front seat was binding on his XXLpassenger's winter coat and the XXXL passenger didn't know it !!!! Frank was able to land safely but cutting the mag switch many times on final approachto descend and land. (like the old WWI blip-switches where you had eitherfull power or a windmilling propeller) Thank God that Frank's throttle did not get stuck on this passenger's coat whenattempting say a go around on a botched landing.....You take yer chances. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Watch Drilling Holes in Plexiglas
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I'm getting ready to do this soon too... can someone elaborate a bit more on theFWANG method?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Watch Drilling Holes in Plexiglas
I'm getting ready to do this soon too... can someone elaborate a bit more on theFWANG method?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Watch Drilling Holes in Plexiglas
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Love those videos.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Love those videos.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Very easy. As you tighten the turnbuckles, pluck the wire like a guitar string. Cables of an equal length will have the same tone. The tighter you make it, the higher the pitch. There is no need to over tighten, it will only stress the wood. All you need is for the wing not to move and the tension reached when the cable makes the Fwang sound is tight enough.Dick N----- Original Message -----
Very easy. As you tighten the turnbuckles, pluck the wire like a guitar string. Cables of an equal length will have the same tone. The tighter you make it, the higher the pitch. There is no need to over tighten, it will only stress the wood. All you need is for the wing not to move and the tension reached when the cable makes the Fwang sound is tight enough.Dick N----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Re: Don Emch-- brilliant---- throttle setup
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Pete Bowers in the plans for the fly baby says to tighten the cables astight as you can with your fingers, then give the turnbuckle barrel onemore turn. When I did this on my wings, I got a FWANG sound. My TechCounselor said to tighten to no more than 40#. When I checked it with atensionometer, thats what I had.Rick S.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Don Emch-- brilliant---- throttle setup
Pete Bowers in the plans for the fly baby says to tighten the cables astight as you can with your fingers, then give the turnbuckle barrel onemore turn. When I did this on my wings, I got a FWANG sound. My TechCounselor said to tighten to no more than 40#. When I checked it with atensionometer, thats what I had.Rick S.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Don Emch-- brilliant---- throttle setup
Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: "TOPGUN"
No, I had never heard that story about Frank. It sounds like he had to do a littlequick thinking though! He always has some good stories. I've learned alot from his experiences!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
No, I had never heard that story about Frank. It sounds like he had to do a littlequick thinking though! He always has some good stories. I've learned alot from his experiences!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Thanks everybody! As i figured, i am overthinking this problem. I went ahead andmade the tensioner this morning and i will check to see how many pounds it isafter i get the "twang" sound. Being a machinist, i am very particular to exactingdetails........thats why when i put my wing together i couldn't fit a pieceof paper between any of the joints.....wood is so much different than metal,i need to loosen up my personal tolerances.ChrisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:11:05 -0400
Thanks everybody! As i figured, i am overthinking this problem. I went ahead andmade the tensioner this morning and i will check to see how many pounds it isafter i get the "twang" sound. Being a machinist, i am very particular to exactingdetails........thats why when i put my wing together i couldn't fit a pieceof paper between any of the joints.....wood is so much different than metal,i need to loosen up my personal tolerances.ChrisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:11:05 -0400
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
I was fortunate that my hangar mate has a cable tensiometerand I used his to tension the wing strut X-brace cables.I didn't have any set value of tension though... I twangedone to the tension I liked, then checked the tension withthe gauge, then set the others to the same tension. Ialso don't have Corky's piano-tuner ear so I don't knowwhat key my cables twang in.West Marine carries the Loos "regular" cable tensiometerfor $79.99 and it's good for 3/32", 1/8", and 5/32" cables.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:16:04 -0400
I was fortunate that my hangar mate has a cable tensiometerand I used his to tension the wing strut X-brace cables.I didn't have any set value of tension though... I twangedone to the tension I liked, then checked the tension withthe gauge, then set the others to the same tension. Ialso don't have Corky's piano-tuner ear so I don't knowwhat key my cables twang in.West Marine carries the Loos "regular" cable tensiometerfor $79.99 and it's good for 3/32", 1/8", and 5/32" cables.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: CABLE TENSION?Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:16:04 -0400
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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
RE: Pietenpol-List: "Amelia" movie trailer - name that airplane!
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Re: Pietenpol-List: "Amelia" movie trailer - name that airplane!
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Chris,Can you elaborate on your construction of the tensioner?Thanks,Jackwww.textors.com Thanks everybody! As i figured, i am overthinking this problem. I went aheadand made the tensioner this morning and i will check to see how many poundsit is after i get the "twang" sound. Being a machinist, i am very particularto exacting details........thats why when i put my wing together i couldn'tfit a piece of paper between any of the joints.....wood is so much differentthan metal, i need to loosen up my personal tolerances.ChrisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 778Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:19:00________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:15:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Amelia" movie trailer - name that airplane!
Chris,Can you elaborate on your construction of the tensioner?Thanks,Jackwww.textors.com Thanks everybody! As i figured, i am overthinking this problem. I went aheadand made the tensioner this morning and i will check to see how many poundsit is after i get the "twang" sound. Being a machinist, i am very particularto exacting details........thats why when i put my wing together i couldn'tfit a piece of paper between any of the joints.....wood is so much differentthan metal, i need to loosen up my personal tolerances.ChrisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 778Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:19:00________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:15:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Amelia" movie trailer - name that airplane!
RE: Pietenpol-List: "Amelia" movie trailer - name that airplane!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I concur! Morane !!! 1919 / 1920 ? They have one at ole Rinebeck!Scary Beast!Dave-----Original Message-----
I concur! Morane !!! 1919 / 1920 ? They have one at ole Rinebeck!Scary Beast!Dave-----Original Message-----