Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:23 am

Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
The tri-motor would be fun! Unfortunately we get that one out here on the left coast.--KenOn Nov 4, 2009, at 8:15 AM, "K5YAC" wrote:>> Ken is exactly right. I have only been a member of our chapter > since March of this year, but since joining I have volunteered for > everything. I show up to cook pancakes, sausage, make coffee, or > just set up tables every month at our pancake breakfast, and also > show up for any other event where we need help. I honestly didn't > do all that stuff expecting anything in return, and I really didn't > even consider that I might have a chance to get on the B-17 this > weekend, but I guess the other guys had me in mind. I honestly just > like being around these fellas... our chapter has a bunch of great > people. A bunch of us have dinner at a local mexican restaurant on > Friday evenings, we have coffee every Saturday morning, the meetings > are packed with 50-60 people every month, etc. It is a lot of fun.>> Can't wait for the tri-motor to come back to town

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:28 am

Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Some weeks ago, someone on the list mentioned that they had seen an extrusion thatcould be used on the 3 pce wing to seal the gap.If you'll take a look at the info on this link, you'll see a product that mightwork. They have a couple of these available. Here's the link:http://www.hitechglazing.com/product/41 ... -------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/larg ... ______Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:16:12 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:40 pm

Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Not sure if it will work with standard wing fitting setup.The gap on 41CC is considerably wider than the nominal 1/4"that the vinyl seal will fit into because there has to beenough of a gap to insert the wing attach bolts into thewing attach fittings and still get a wrench on the bolthead and nut to tighten. The picture here:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/P3230004.JPGwill give you an idea of the size of gap that existsunless you make a special effort to make the gap muchnarrower.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:31 pm

Original Posted By:> taildrags(at)hotmail.com
Kerri Ann Price has drawings for attach fittings that eliminate the need for anything. (1/16 or so gap). For those that haven't cut or drilled fittings or spars. Since Geocities was closed down I don't have any website info=2C but someone may have her info. I may go this route.Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:37 pm

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Now that's just downright funny Ryan!My wife makes fun of me all the time, she says I stick my tongue out when I'm reallyconcentrating on something. Well I least I was buckling down and reallyconcentrating on propping!DonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:18 pm

Original Posted By: Jack
That was me. That's great! Thanks Tom.ClifYard by yard, it's mighty hard, but inch by inch, it's a cinch.>> Some weeks ago, someone on the list mentioned that they had seen an > extrusion that could be used on the 3 pce wing to seal the gap.> http://www.hitechglazing.com/product/41258/40204>> --------> Tom Kreiner________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:30 pm

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Great Don, love the fall colors...JackDSMSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 4, 2009, at 2:43 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:>> I took a buddy flying on Sunday and took some video.> Here's a couple of links;>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL9Sc1-_ ... re=channel>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waui6n1U ... re=channel>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRqjIaG ... re=channel>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMm_m6a ... re=channel>> Don Emch> NX899DE>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:49 pm

Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
This is what I'm doing. The gap will be maybe 1/8".The small cutout around the fitting will be on thewing panel also. My flop goes right to the edgeand will not have the seal. The open areas will becovered in lexan.Clif> Not sure if it will work with standard wing fitting setup.> The gap on 41CC is considerably wider than the nominal 1/4"> that the vinyl seal will fit into because there has to be> enough of a gap to insert the wing attach bolts into the> wing attach fittings and still get a wrench on the bolt> head and nut to tighten. > > Oscar Zuniga________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:07:39 -0800

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:01 am

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Clif; VERY nice detail where your wing panels meet thecenter section! The wing gap covers on 41CC are simpleenough, but each of them is in several pieces and eachpiece has multiple PK screws holding it in place, so atight gap with just a push-in seal makes for a cleanerand simpler installation.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:08 am

Original Posted By: Jim Markle
John;I'm not sure what sort of edge trim you're looking for,but Corky used a very simple, effective, and affordable(and flexible, to follow curves) edge trim on the variouscowling openings on 41CC. It's from JC Whitney and comesin a 20 ft. roll for $23.99 and is item no. 1JA890791 ifyou do a search on their website. It is available inblack and white and will fit tightly over the edges ofmetal that is .030-.060" thick (they have more of thissame stuff for thicker material, too). Like I say, itis flexible and can follow curves nicely. On 41CC it ison all the cowling openings where the cabanes poke through,where the engine pokes through, where the oil drain comesout the bottom, etc.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:58:21 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:23 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hey Cliff! (Dawson)Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install?You read my mind perfectly!!!Dave-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:37 pm

Original Posted By: G & R Hewitt
My plug with a hole works fine--Jim Lagowski ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:09 pm

Original Posted By: John Franklin
I have a never used Hegy 66X30 prop that I no longer can use and is for sale. If you are interested in it, contact me off list at jjbush(at)gmail.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:21:53 -0500 (EST)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:43 am

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Well, thank you Jim. That is a compliment indeed coming from someone whohas been of so much help to so many of us.Clif>> I think what's REALLY interesting about these pictures is Clif's > "workshop". I have a wonderful 32X40 heated workshop. In contrast, when > I went to visit Clif one winter....he had just spent the night before > knocking the snow off the "roof" of his "shop". He works on his project > right there under that tarp.>> I think that's pretty neat.>> You're my hero Clif.>________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:31 am

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
OK, here's a few. First the plug ready to fiberglass the bottom.I positioned the basic plug in the wing where I wanted it,surounded it with a single piece of matt board and gluedthat to the plug with spray foam insulation.That cap I got at Arlington for ten bucks. It's $335 in AS+S!I made the fitting for it.The last pic shows the final layout. The fuel line is justsitting there. I need a couple of nut inserts before flairingand bending it to fit.Clif> > Hey Cliff! (Dawson)> > Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install?> You read my mind perfectly!!!> > Dave________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:48 am

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
They say necessity is the mother of invention.When I checked the 37 flair tools at a hundredbucks I just couldn't justify that for two lousyends! So I simply made a head to fit over mystandard plumbing one. Seems to work fine.This combo lathe-mill I agonized over buyingon sale for $1000 ( regular $1800! ) has paid foritself at least once already! I walk in looking for3/8" X 23 gauge pins and walk out with this thing.Damn good thing I'm no longer married!Clif> Hey Cliff! (Dawson)>> Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install?> You read my mind perfectly!!!>> Dave________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:31 am

Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
OK, here's a few. First the plug ready to fiberglass the bottom.I positioned the basic plug in the wing where I wanted it,surounded it with a single piece of matt board and gluedthat to the plug with spray foam insulation.That cap I got at Arlington for ten bucks. It's $335 in AS+S!I made the fitting for it.The last pic shows the final layout. The fuel line is justsitting there. I need a couple of nut inserts before flairingand bending it to fit.Clif> > Hey Cliff! (Dawson)> > Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install?> You read my mind perfectly!!!> > Dave ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:11:08 -0800 (PST)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:34 pm

Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
> >> > > Not sure if it will work with standard wing fitting setup.> The gap on 41CC is considerably wider than the nominal 1/4"> that the vinyl seal will fit into because there has to be> enough of a gap to insert the wing attach bolts into the> wing attach fittings and still get a wrench on the bolt> head and nut to tighten. The picture here:> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/P3230004.JPG> will give you an idea of the size of gap that exists> unless you make a special effort to make the gap much> narrower.> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio=2C TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > ============================================> > > _________________________________________________________________Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-sco ... id=wl&filt 0=2C2400=2C10=2C19=2C1=2C3=2C1=2C7=2C50=2C650=2C2=2C12=2C0=2C1000&cat=1=2C2=2C3=2C4=2C5=2C6&brands=5=2C6=2C7=2C8=2C9=2C10=2C11=2C12=2C13=2C14=2C15=2C16&addf=4=2C5=2C9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A couple of videos

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