Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
Since my Oshkosh/Brodhead plans came crashing to a halt last nite, I'm having to resign myself to just Sun n Fun this year. Anyone going with their Piet?The last time I talked with W. Wynne,(The Corvair Authority) he was planning on having a booth, so if anyone is there with interest in Corvair power, keep an eye out for him.Larry RaganJacksonville, Fl.lragan(at)hotmail.com________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Gadd, Skip"
Well...... Sun n Fun is quickly approaching ( 11 more days). All six of the BigPiet builders are going. Is anyone planning a get together? Maybe for lunch?Or maybe meet at a certain place at a certain time? Just wondering.I have not printed off a forum list yet, so I won't suggest anything until I seethe days and times of the forums. It might be a good idea to meet just aftera Piet oriented forum at the pavilion at the front of the museum. Just a thought.Barry Davis________________________________________________________________________________
Well...... Sun n Fun is quickly approaching ( 11 more days). All six of the BigPiet builders are going. Is anyone planning a get together? Maybe for lunch?Or maybe meet at a certain place at a certain time? Just wondering.I have not printed off a forum list yet, so I won't suggest anything until I seethe days and times of the forums. It might be a good idea to meet just aftera Piet oriented forum at the pavilion at the front of the museum. Just a thought.Barry Davis________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Barry and all Piet listers,Come by the Wood shop, there should some Piet guys working or just hangingaround there.Skip-----Original Message-----
Barry and all Piet listers,Come by the Wood shop, there should some Piet guys working or just hangingaround there.Skip-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
As long as the list is a bit slow and hopefully every one is catching their breath from the wonderful week of milk jug discussion, I want to remind everyone that several of us on the list here are active with the Wood workshop at Sun n Fun. You may catch a bit of Mike Cuys Piet video running on the shop TV. Someone always has Piet plans and we will all help with questions. This years project is the construction of a set of wood wings at the show. They are very similar to the Piet. I ould also like to talk to anyone who would like to build a project at next years show. We have done several Aircamper fuselages in the past and would welcome another if someone would like.We welcome new volunteers to the shop also. It's a great way to be more invoved and get more out of the airshow.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:18:24 -0400
As long as the list is a bit slow and hopefully every one is catching their breath from the wonderful week of milk jug discussion, I want to remind everyone that several of us on the list here are active with the Wood workshop at Sun n Fun. You may catch a bit of Mike Cuys Piet video running on the shop TV. Someone always has Piet plans and we will all help with questions. This years project is the construction of a set of wood wings at the show. They are very similar to the Piet. I ould also like to talk to anyone who would like to build a project at next years show. We have done several Aircamper fuselages in the past and would welcome another if someone would like.We welcome new volunteers to the shop also. It's a great way to be more invoved and get more out of the airshow.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:18:24 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunI'd love to see some Pietenpols at Sun N Fun. Where do ya'll tie down at? Boyce**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunI'd love to see some Pietenpols at Sun N Fun. Where do ya'll tie down at? Boyce**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Ben Charvet"
I am not bringing my Piet to SNF. I will be bringing the Volmer VJ 22 project that we built last year and building wings for it.Fly in Piets generally park on the west end of the flight line. Alan Wise's Piet if not on the flight line may be in the museum.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
I am not bringing my Piet to SNF. I will be bringing the Volmer VJ 22 project that we built last year and building wings for it.Fly in Piets generally park on the west end of the flight line. Alan Wise's Piet if not on the flight line may be in the museum.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Franklin Engine
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Franklin EngineI wonder how much it would take to get that into flying condition I am still looking for a powerplantJohnIn a message dated 3/13/2008 7:05:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harvey.rule(at)bell.ca writes:Thanks for the heads up.I don=99t have the scatch at this time.Mother wants a deck and new floors.You know how it goes.I=99ll be lucky with the price gas is going to even get airborne this year! Do not archive ____________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Franklin EngineI wonder how much it would take to get that into flying condition I am still looking for a powerplantJohnIn a message dated 3/13/2008 7:05:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harvey.rule(at)bell.ca writes:Thanks for the heads up.I don=99t have the scatch at this time.Mother wants a deck and new floors.You know how it goes.I=99ll be lucky with the price gas is going to even get airborne this year! Do not archive ____________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Franklin Engine
Original Posted By: Tim Verthein
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
> Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
It's time to start thinking about spring. Does anyone want to jump start a project? We are looking for a project for the Wood Forum at Sun n Fun. You could bring materials and drive away with a completed basic fuselage or a set of wings, one left and one right at the end of the show. Let me know if you would like to discuss further how to take the next step.There are several of us from the list who participate and help.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:47:47 -0500
It's time to start thinking about spring. Does anyone want to jump start a project? We are looking for a project for the Wood Forum at Sun n Fun. You could bring materials and drive away with a completed basic fuselage or a set of wings, one left and one right at the end of the show. Let me know if you would like to discuss further how to take the next step.There are several of us from the list who participate and help.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:47:47 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
JackThe Falco looks like a mighty nice plane. That would be a great project. You know many of the crew down there. Let me know if that is something you would like to do.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
JackThe Falco looks like a mighty nice plane. That would be a great project. You know many of the crew down there. Let me know if that is something you would like to do.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Just kidding, Dick. I'd love to build a Falco, but I need to finish theRV-10 first. I think Karen would kill me if I started another project.Jack _____
Just kidding, Dick. I'd love to build a Falco, but I need to finish theRV-10 first. I think Karen would kill me if I started another project.Jack _____
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Too bad Jack. That Falco looks nice. I know what you mean about the wife situation. I'm trying not to be tempted to start a 4th plane at this point.Dick ----- Original Message -----
Too bad Jack. That Falco looks nice. I know what you mean about the wife situation. I'm trying not to be tempted to start a 4th plane at this point.Dick ----- Original Message -----
Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Jim"
JimThe Volmer is well along. There aren't any more small parts to build. I might trailer it to show off but not sure at this point. See the attached pic 2yrs into building. Landing gear is on the welding table. See one wing in background, other is out of view ( one right and one left). Canopy assy is done.Dick----- Original Message -----
JimThe Volmer is well along. There aren't any more small parts to build. I might trailer it to show off but not sure at this point. See the attached pic 2yrs into building. Landing gear is on the welding table. See one wing in background, other is out of view ( one right and one left). Canopy assy is done.Dick----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: "Jim Ash"
JimYou are already familiar with the workshops so that's a plus. You need to settle most of the questions yourself. You would have to commit the time to the Wood shop to do this. I do know the only paperwork along the way is to keep a builders log and keep receipts for materials. You will need tail feathers, regardless of other decisions.Let us knowDick----- Original Message -----
JimYou are already familiar with the workshops so that's a plus. You need to settle most of the questions yourself. You would have to commit the time to the Wood shop to do this. I do know the only paperwork along the way is to keep a builders log and keep receipts for materials. You will need tail feathers, regardless of other decisions.Let us knowDick----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By:> Dick N.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun> Dick> I have a new project . A group of old guyes are building or > rebuilding a CG4 Glider.> That has a 70+ foot wing span. Is that to big for the shop. I'am > building ribs lile crazy.> Dale> > > ----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun> Dick> I have a new project . A group of old guyes are building or > rebuilding a CG4 Glider.> That has a 70+ foot wing span. Is that to big for the shop. I'am > building ribs lile crazy.> Dale> > > ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics
Original Posted By: John Fay
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Dick N.
DickI have a new project . A group of old guyes are building or rebuilding a CG4 Glider.That has a 70+ foot wing span. Is that to big for the shop. I'am building ribslile crazy.Dale----- Original Message -----
DickI have a new project . A group of old guyes are building or rebuilding a CG4 Glider.That has a 70+ foot wing span. Is that to big for the shop. I'am building ribslile crazy.Dale----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Dale Johnson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunDale, is it for the Silent Wings Museum in Lubbock, Texas? If anyone is in that area the Silent Wings Museum is one of the best subject specificMuseums I have ever seen. They focus on the Glider pilots of WWII. Theydo discuss the glider infantry but mostly the pilots. Last I knew they had aWACO and had sent WACO plans to Great Britian so that the GB museum could build/restorea WACO. They had Horsa glider plans sent by the GB group so that theycould build/restore a Horsa Glider for their Museum. http://www.silentwingsmuseum.com/Blue SkiesSteve D----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n FunDale, is it for the Silent Wings Museum in Lubbock, Texas? If anyone is in that area the Silent Wings Museum is one of the best subject specificMuseums I have ever seen. They focus on the Glider pilots of WWII. Theydo discuss the glider infantry but mostly the pilots. Last I knew they had aWACO and had sent WACO plans to Great Britian so that the GB museum could build/restorea WACO. They had Horsa glider plans sent by the GB group so that theycould build/restore a Horsa Glider for their Museum. http://www.silentwingsmuseum.com/Blue SkiesSteve D----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamlinetube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine.Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar toavoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is toreduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. Myguess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's sucha short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 056#28005= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na============ ... RONICS.COM -Matt Admin="========________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800 (PST)
Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamlinetube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine.Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar toavoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is toreduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. Myguess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's sucha short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 056#28005= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na============ ... RONICS.COM -Matt Admin="========________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
>Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamline tube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine. Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar to avoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is to reduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. My guess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's such a short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#28005=- - - - - - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na============ ... RONICS.COM -Matt Admin="========le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:16:07 -0800 (PST)
>Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamline tube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine. Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar to avoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is to reduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. My guess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's such a short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#28005=- - - - - - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na============ ... RONICS.COM -Matt Admin="========le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:16:07 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom field....
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
>Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamline tube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine. Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar to avoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is to reduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. My guess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's such a short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#28005=- - - - - - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na======================== ht=- - - - - - - - - - ----> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom field....
>Michael,I haven't built this part yet, but I don't see why it would need to be streamline tube. Plain ol' round tube with the ends "squished" should work just fine. Flat steel would to be too heavy, since you'd need to have such a thick bar to avoid flexing. The whole reason for streamlined tubing being streamlined is to reduce wind resistance, which should NOT be an issue inside the fuselage. My guess is that BHP just made use of offcuts that were on hand, since it's such a short piece needed.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#28005=- - - - - - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Na======================== ht=- - - - - - - - - - ----> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom field....
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
et>Michael, I sent you a pic a while back, but no dimensions of my elevator idler bellcrank.- In fact, I made it from streamline tubing, and would again, but its shape is no longer "streamline."- It started as streamline tubing 2.25" long axis with about 1.00" outside across.- I squeezed it uniformly to make it 2.50" long and 0.75" across.- This made an oval tubing section about 4 inches tall.- Then I cut notches in the top and cross-drilled holes up there.- Now bearing ends can fit into those slots.- At the top then, are the tubes from the yoke and from the main elevator bellcrank. The bearings themselves are trapped by the tubing, with a bolt through the tubing and the bearing center, as you might expect.- When all was done, I had room for the bearing ends inside the length of tubing, with room to spare.---At the base I have a piece of half-inch round tubing welded going crossways, mounted between two ball bearings and heavy aluminum (extruded) angles.- It is all very smooth and rigid.- Corky told me to widen the footprint of this apparatus and make it more rigid than his prototype, and I did.- It is overkill, but I like it. I think Dick N. used a piece of rectangular tubing in the same way on one of his Piets, and I would have too, if I had seen his design first and had the tubing handy.- As with much else on Piets, I used what I had, without cutting corners on specs of materials, strength, or quality. Tim in central TX-----Original Message-----
et>Michael, I sent you a pic a while back, but no dimensions of my elevator idler bellcrank.- In fact, I made it from streamline tubing, and would again, but its shape is no longer "streamline."- It started as streamline tubing 2.25" long axis with about 1.00" outside across.- I squeezed it uniformly to make it 2.50" long and 0.75" across.- This made an oval tubing section about 4 inches tall.- Then I cut notches in the top and cross-drilled holes up there.- Now bearing ends can fit into those slots.- At the top then, are the tubes from the yoke and from the main elevator bellcrank. The bearings themselves are trapped by the tubing, with a bolt through the tubing and the bearing center, as you might expect.- When all was done, I had room for the bearing ends inside the length of tubing, with room to spare.---At the base I have a piece of half-inch round tubing welded going crossways, mounted between two ball bearings and heavy aluminum (extruded) angles.- It is all very smooth and rigid.- Corky told me to widen the footprint of this apparatus and make it more rigid than his prototype, and I did.- It is overkill, but I like it. I think Dick N. used a piece of rectangular tubing in the same way on one of his Piets, and I would have too, if I had seen his design first and had the tubing handy.- As with much else on Piets, I used what I had, without cutting corners on specs of materials, strength, or quality. Tim in central TX-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
et>Michael, I sent you a pic a while back, but no dimensions of my elevator idler bellcrank.- In fact, I made it from streamline tubing, and would again, but its shape is no longer "streamline."- It started as streamline tubing 2.25" long axis with about 1.00" outside across.- I squeezed it uniformly to make it 2.50" long and 0.75" across.- This made an oval tubing section about 4 inches tall.- Then I cut notches in the top and cross-drilled holes up there.- Now bearing ends can fit into those slots.- At the top then, are the tubes from the yoke and from the main elevator bellcrank. The bearings themselves are trapped by the tubing, with a bolt through the tubing and the bearing center, as you might expect.- When all was done, I had room for the bearing ends inside the length of tubing, with room to spare.---At the base I have a piece of half-inch round tubing welded going crossways, mounted between two ball bearings and heavy aluminum (extruded) angles.- It is all very smooth and rigid.- Corky told me to widen the footprint of this apparatus and make it more rigid than his prototype, and I did.- It is overkill, but I like it. I think Dick N. used a piece of rectangular tubing in the same way on one of his Piets, and I would have too, if I had seen his design first and had the tubing handy.- As with much else on Piets, I used what I had, without cutting corners on specs of materials, strength, or quality. Tim in central TX-----Original Message-----
et>Michael, I sent you a pic a while back, but no dimensions of my elevator idler bellcrank.- In fact, I made it from streamline tubing, and would again, but its shape is no longer "streamline."- It started as streamline tubing 2.25" long axis with about 1.00" outside across.- I squeezed it uniformly to make it 2.50" long and 0.75" across.- This made an oval tubing section about 4 inches tall.- Then I cut notches in the top and cross-drilled holes up there.- Now bearing ends can fit into those slots.- At the top then, are the tubes from the yoke and from the main elevator bellcrank. The bearings themselves are trapped by the tubing, with a bolt through the tubing and the bearing center, as you might expect.- When all was done, I had room for the bearing ends inside the length of tubing, with room to spare.---At the base I have a piece of half-inch round tubing welded going crossways, mounted between two ball bearings and heavy aluminum (extruded) angles.- It is all very smooth and rigid.- Corky told me to widen the footprint of this apparatus and make it more rigid than his prototype, and I did.- It is overkill, but I like it. I think Dick N. used a piece of rectangular tubing in the same way on one of his Piets, and I would have too, if I had seen his design first and had the tubing handy.- As with much else on Piets, I used what I had, without cutting corners on specs of materials, strength, or quality. Tim in central TX-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: "Rob Stapleton"
I went ahead and bought a short length of the specified airfoil tubing.- If you decide to use round tubing, be sure to select a diameter large enough to accommodate the axle that has to go through it, without being structurally weak.- It could ruin your whole day if that thing failed. Ben Charvet> le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________
I went ahead and bought a short length of the specified airfoil tubing.- If you decide to use round tubing, be sure to select a diameter large enough to accommodate the axle that has to go through it, without being structurally weak.- It could ruin your whole day if that thing failed. Ben Charvet> le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Now that we are past the first of the year and Sun n Fun is about 97 days away, it's time again for me to ask if anyone has a project they would like to have jump started.Several of us here on the list gather each year to demonstrate wood building at the show. You would have help from several experienced builders and take home parts that would leave you far ahead on your building. In the past, I have received big help with my projects. We built a set of wings for Skip Gadd, a fuselage for Gardiner Mason and various projects for others. I don't have anything definite yet for this year and if you would like to make some big progress on your project in 1 week, contact me off list and I will fill you in on what to expect and what you will need.Dick N.horzpool(at)goldengate.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:09:17 -0500 (EST)
Now that we are past the first of the year and Sun n Fun is about 97 days away, it's time again for me to ask if anyone has a project they would like to have jump started.Several of us here on the list gather each year to demonstrate wood building at the show. You would have help from several experienced builders and take home parts that would leave you far ahead on your building. In the past, I have received big help with my projects. We built a set of wings for Skip Gadd, a fuselage for Gardiner Mason and various projects for others. I don't have anything definite yet for this year and if you would like to make some big progress on your project in 1 week, contact me off list and I will fill you in on what to expect and what you will need.Dick N.horzpool(at)goldengate.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:09:17 -0500 (EST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Nice, but I will have defer to the Russian expression: " God is highabove and the Czar is far, far, away" so am I in Anchorage, AK! Goodthought though!RSRob Stapleton, PhotojournalistAnchorage, AK(907) 230-9425KL2ANSkype:rob.stapleton.jr-----Original Message-----
Nice, but I will have defer to the Russian expression: " God is highabove and the Czar is far, far, away" so am I in Anchorage, AK! Goodthought though!RSRob Stapleton, PhotojournalistAnchorage, AK(907) 230-9425KL2ANSkype:rob.stapleton.jr-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Only problem I see is you can't adjust your leading edge up and down.- IF, the stab were built stiffer, it would not be as much an issue, however the pietenpol tail is a light flimsy structure, that needs proper bracing.- My oppinion is to at least have 2 seperate cables, with at least 1 being adjustable.- For the added $30-$40 just make them per the plans with-all having turnbuckles.- I think you will save much heart ache and time just biting the bullet and buying the turnbuckles.- As far as saving some $$$$, Just substitute motercycle chain links for the clevises, if in doubt about the strength, try pulling them with a tractor, thy won't break before the clevis pin.- NX92GB has a few chain links in place of clevises, and they will hold all day long.-Shad-p.s. I think there is a link of where to buy used turnbuckeles on the list some where________________________________________________________________________________
Only problem I see is you can't adjust your leading edge up and down.- IF, the stab were built stiffer, it would not be as much an issue, however the pietenpol tail is a light flimsy structure, that needs proper bracing.- My oppinion is to at least have 2 seperate cables, with at least 1 being adjustable.- For the added $30-$40 just make them per the plans with-all having turnbuckles.- I think you will save much heart ache and time just biting the bullet and buying the turnbuckles.- As far as saving some $$$$, Just substitute motercycle chain links for the clevises, if in doubt about the strength, try pulling them with a tractor, thy won't break before the clevis pin.- NX92GB has a few chain links in place of clevises, and they will hold all day long.-Shad-p.s. I think there is a link of where to buy used turnbuckeles on the list some where________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: 50 Hour Report
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
il>For what it's worth.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/50_h ... _142.docle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:43:06 +0000 (UTC)
il>For what it's worth.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/50_h ... _142.docle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:43:06 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator bell crank stremline tube size
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Re: gap sealing
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Clear 2" 3M tape from Wal Mart. Applied from the bottom, carefully tucking thetape up into the gap. Had originally put it on top but was reading on the flybaby list about tape coming off the top and creating roll control excitement.So far so good, barely noticeable, inexpensive, easy to maintain and durable.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Clear 2" 3M tape from Wal Mart. Applied from the bottom, carefully tucking thetape up into the gap. Had originally put it on top but was reading on the flybaby list about tape coming off the top and creating roll control excitement.So far so good, barely noticeable, inexpensive, easy to maintain and durable.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Jim, as I'm sure you know, you are leaving just in time. Single digits for therest of the week. [Shocked]--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:53:37 -0600
Jim, as I'm sure you know, you are leaving just in time. Single digits for therest of the week. [Shocked]--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:53:37 -0600
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: gap sealing
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
RE: Pietenpol-List: Lee Bottom field....
Original Posted By:> Jim Markle
Jim,Its about 50 miles and an hours drive. Go due north on I-65 to State Rd-56.East on 56 to Hanover Indiana, where Lee Bottom is near.Rick SchreiberValparaiso, IN> [Original Message]
Jim,Its about 50 miles and an hours drive. Go due north on I-65 to State Rd-56.East on 56 to Hanover Indiana, where Lee Bottom is near.Rick SchreiberValparaiso, IN> [Original Message]
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Cables have a minimum diameter for going around bends. See pulleys for that.You'll need to ensure that the cables can't move in either direction around that pivot. They've got to be completely captured. A few sailboats lost their masts when they tried this, before they learned that. David Paule ----- Original Message -----
Cables have a minimum diameter for going around bends. See pulleys for that.You'll need to ensure that the cables can't move in either direction around that pivot. They've got to be completely captured. A few sailboats lost their masts when they tried this, before they learned that. David Paule ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Multiple cables prevents the compromizing of the whole system should one individual fail. With your proposed system it compromizes the structure of the entire structure should the single cable fail.Just a thought:Michael ----- Original Message -----
Multiple cables prevents the compromizing of the whole system should one individual fail. With your proposed system it compromizes the structure of the entire structure should the single cable fail.Just a thought:Michael ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)using one cable would let the stabilizer rock front to back. you have to make a triangle to make it stable.Howdy________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:43:28 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)using one cable would let the stabilizer rock front to back. you have to make a triangle to make it stable.Howdy________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:43:28 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Pietenpol-List: Re: gap sealing
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
For what it's worth.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/50_h ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: gap sealing
For what it's worth.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/50_h ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: gap sealing
Original Posted By: vahowdy(at)aol.com
Stits polyfiber through and through. It's pretty durable. Hadn't thought aboutpulling paint off.Fly baby website has notes on using clear 90 degree plastic angle as gap seals. You may want to look for ideas: www.bowersflybaby.comKevinRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Stits polyfiber through and through. It's pretty durable. Hadn't thought aboutpulling paint off.Fly baby website has notes on using clear 90 degree plastic angle as gap seals. You may want to look for ideas: www.bowersflybaby.comKevinRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Pietenpol-List: Re: 50 Hour Report
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Corvair. Where you at, Tim? I'm sitting at Camp Mabry writing this.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:46:05 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Corvair. Where you at, Tim? I'm sitting at Camp Mabry writing this.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:46:05 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 50 Hour Report
Original Posted By: Ken Chambers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 50 Hour Report
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 50 Hour Report
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pfeifer Sport plans
Original Posted By: airlion
If the Pfeifer Sport plans CD is still available I would like a copy. Thanks,Ken Kamp13 Laurel Hill Dr.Quarryville, PA 17566email: kkamp72(at)comcast.netRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:16:01 -0800 (PST)
If the Pfeifer Sport plans CD is still available I would like a copy. Thanks,Ken Kamp13 Laurel Hill Dr.Quarryville, PA 17566email: kkamp72(at)comcast.netRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:16:01 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Using half of the tail cables? (long winded)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 50 Hour Report
Original Posted By: Michael Perez