Original Posted By: Mike Townsley
Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo sizes
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I love the big files as I save them all to my PIET folders. I just don't get emailedupdates I do mine all by computer.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I love the big files as I save them all to my PIET folders. I just don't get emailedupdates I do mine all by computer.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looking good, Douwe!Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Looking good, Douwe!Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Original Posted By: airlion
Here's a differing viewpoint regarding photo sizes:I LIKE the big photos.Personally, I'm always disappointed when the photo attachments are so small thatI can't make out details. I know that a few years ago, there were still a fewguys with dial-up internet connections who were constantly complaining abouthow long it would take to download the messages that had decent sized photosattached - but I don't think there are too many people still on dial-up. My homeemail is pretty basic (through my phone line) and I can send and receive attachmentsup to 10 Megs. I think that the size limit prescribed by Matronics isreasonable (2 Meg maximum), in today's world.So I say, keep the big photos coming - especially like those great shots of Douwe'snew plane, and the close-up details of Mike's pitot lines. Each of thoseshots were worth at least 1000 proverbial words.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
Here's a differing viewpoint regarding photo sizes:I LIKE the big photos.Personally, I'm always disappointed when the photo attachments are so small thatI can't make out details. I know that a few years ago, there were still a fewguys with dial-up internet connections who were constantly complaining abouthow long it would take to download the messages that had decent sized photosattached - but I don't think there are too many people still on dial-up. My homeemail is pretty basic (through my phone line) and I can send and receive attachmentsup to 10 Megs. I think that the size limit prescribed by Matronics isreasonable (2 Meg maximum), in today's world.So I say, keep the big photos coming - especially like those great shots of Douwe'snew plane, and the close-up details of Mike's pitot lines. Each of thoseshots were worth at least 1000 proverbial words.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
RE: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Beautiful pics!!! I like the old barn and water tower in the background.Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear18 ribs done
Beautiful pics!!! I like the old barn and water tower in the background.Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear18 ribs done
Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo sizes
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
FYIIf memory serves me right, in 2005 at Broadhead, I measured the cabanes of all the Piets (18?). Everyone had 1" shorter rear cabane than the front one.Roman B. NX20795Also my Piet has the 1" difference.On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:52 PM, coxwelljon wrote:> >>> OK, I did my measuring. I did a little more looking on the web and > found that the recommended angle of incidence for the Pietenpol wing > is 3 degrees. I am assuming it is the same for the GN-1 wing. From > posts I read this allows for some washout on the tips. As I > remember from Broadhead this summer the washout makes the Piet a > much better flying bird.>> I struck a chalk line from the trailing edge to the center of the > curve on the leading edge to get the chord line. The chord line is > at an angle of 1.83 degrees to a line through the center of the > mounting holes for the cabane struts. To get to the recommended 3 > degrees I will need to lengthen my front cabanes by 5/8" to get 3 > degrees. Probably the easiest is to weld another tube for the > attach bolt on top of the existing attach point and a new saddle > strap over the top. The fix will be tell tale at any gatherings but > then I am not building a show plane and it seems like a lot less > work than cutting the strut and lengthening it.>> Thanks for your comments>> --------> Jon Coxwell> GN-1 Builder> Recycle and preserve the planet>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo sizes
FYIIf memory serves me right, in 2005 at Broadhead, I measured the cabanes of all the Piets (18?). Everyone had 1" shorter rear cabane than the front one.Roman B. NX20795Also my Piet has the 1" difference.On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:52 PM, coxwelljon wrote:> >>> OK, I did my measuring. I did a little more looking on the web and > found that the recommended angle of incidence for the Pietenpol wing > is 3 degrees. I am assuming it is the same for the GN-1 wing. From > posts I read this allows for some washout on the tips. As I > remember from Broadhead this summer the washout makes the Piet a > much better flying bird.>> I struck a chalk line from the trailing edge to the center of the > curve on the leading edge to get the chord line. The chord line is > at an angle of 1.83 degrees to a line through the center of the > mounting holes for the cabane struts. To get to the recommended 3 > degrees I will need to lengthen my front cabanes by 5/8" to get 3 > degrees. Probably the easiest is to weld another tube for the > attach bolt on top of the existing attach point and a new saddle > strap over the top. The fix will be tell tale at any gatherings but > then I am not building a show plane and it seems like a lot less > work than cutting the strut and lengthening it.>> Thanks for your comments>> --------> Jon Coxwell> GN-1 Builder> Recycle and preserve the planet>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo sizes
Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
Pietenpol-List: Re: Big day!!
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I'm not flying my Piet yet (nowhere close), but I have, and intend to use, a GarminGPSMAP 195 and an Icom IC-A22 NAVCOM. Of course I won't need the GPS unlessI'm flying cross country. Even then I don't NEED it, but it sure is niceto just fly direct, following the CDI. As for the radio, it is such a small package,and offers so much added safety that I can't really consider NOT usingit. I also hope to teach my son to fly in the Piet... so he will need to learnto use the radio, and I'm sure we will appreciate the intercom.I have a great view of the approach to rwy 17 from my hangar, where I see non-radioguys cutting off people on final all the time. I'm not trying to includeeveryone in that comment. Heck, there may be days that I just want to fly aroundthe patch without my headset on, but just yesterday I saw one of our breezyfliers cut off two aircraft (at different times) that were well establishedon final. For starters he took the active and departed in front of one, andlater he flew a short pattern and turned final right in front of another thatwas already established on final and was flying a proper pattern. I know allof the people involved and I imagine Mr. Breezy will hear about it. I'm awarethat these things just happen occasionally, but we have students flying at ourfield, and I regularly see people stop by that are not from our field (for fuel,visit, etc.) and they probably don't know (nor do they expect to see) Mr.Breezy cutting in underneath them. We all need to work on our scan to be safe,but I also think this particular pilot's vision may improve if he had somethingon his ears. :)Anyhow, I'm not trying to rant as much as I am trying to promote a couple of usefulwidgets. Especially the radio. As stated above, the IC-A22 is a NAVCOM,so I could navigate with it using VOR stations, which is actually pretty fun.A lot of bang for the buck in a modern day handheld.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big day!!
I'm not flying my Piet yet (nowhere close), but I have, and intend to use, a GarminGPSMAP 195 and an Icom IC-A22 NAVCOM. Of course I won't need the GPS unlessI'm flying cross country. Even then I don't NEED it, but it sure is niceto just fly direct, following the CDI. As for the radio, it is such a small package,and offers so much added safety that I can't really consider NOT usingit. I also hope to teach my son to fly in the Piet... so he will need to learnto use the radio, and I'm sure we will appreciate the intercom.I have a great view of the approach to rwy 17 from my hangar, where I see non-radioguys cutting off people on final all the time. I'm not trying to includeeveryone in that comment. Heck, there may be days that I just want to fly aroundthe patch without my headset on, but just yesterday I saw one of our breezyfliers cut off two aircraft (at different times) that were well establishedon final. For starters he took the active and departed in front of one, andlater he flew a short pattern and turned final right in front of another thatwas already established on final and was flying a proper pattern. I know allof the people involved and I imagine Mr. Breezy will hear about it. I'm awarethat these things just happen occasionally, but we have students flying at ourfield, and I regularly see people stop by that are not from our field (for fuel,visit, etc.) and they probably don't know (nor do they expect to see) Mr.Breezy cutting in underneath them. We all need to work on our scan to be safe,but I also think this particular pilot's vision may improve if he had somethingon his ears. :)Anyhow, I'm not trying to rant as much as I am trying to promote a couple of usefulwidgets. Especially the radio. As stated above, the IC-A22 is a NAVCOM,so I could navigate with it using VOR stations, which is actually pretty fun.A lot of bang for the buck in a modern day handheld.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big day!!
Original Posted By: "David Paule"
Very cool! I am going to the hangar RIGHT NOW to make some wood shavings.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Very cool! I am going to the hangar RIGHT NOW to make some wood shavings.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: GN-1 cabane length
Original Posted By: airlion
Tim,I know that -- I built my GN-1 from CAD plans. The plans are wrong and that'snot the only thing in the plans you have to watch out for.TomOn Mar 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Rick Holland wrote:> > I have a copy of the newer CAD version of the GN-1 plans, the bottom> bolt to top bolt centerline measurements are 23 1/4" front and 23 1/2"> rear.> > rick> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM, coxwelljon wrote:>> >> >> timothywillis(at)earthlin wrote:>>> Tom, isn't the "standard" to build with the aft cabanes 1" shorter?>>> Tim in central TX>>> a>>> >>> -->> >> Tim,>> >> I think that is the norm for the Piet. but the GN-1 has the spars relocatedand thus the attachment hardware relocated, and with the larger radius leadingedge which adjusts the leading edge end of the mean aerodynamic chord upward.All of these slight changes add up to 3/8" less on the GN-1. Perhaps I am splittingtoo many hairs here and the actual angle of incidence may not be thatcritical. Maybe several with flying GN-1's could chime in here.>> >> Jon in central NY>> >> -------->> Jon Coxwell>> GN-1 Builder>> Recycle and preserve the planet>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 820#290820>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Rick Holland> Castle Rock, Colorado> > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:05:50 -0700 (PDT)
Tim,I know that -- I built my GN-1 from CAD plans. The plans are wrong and that'snot the only thing in the plans you have to watch out for.TomOn Mar 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Rick Holland wrote:> > I have a copy of the newer CAD version of the GN-1 plans, the bottom> bolt to top bolt centerline measurements are 23 1/4" front and 23 1/2"> rear.> > rick> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM, coxwelljon wrote:>> >> >> timothywillis(at)earthlin wrote:>>> Tom, isn't the "standard" to build with the aft cabanes 1" shorter?>>> Tim in central TX>>> a>>> >>> -->> >> Tim,>> >> I think that is the norm for the Piet. but the GN-1 has the spars relocatedand thus the attachment hardware relocated, and with the larger radius leadingedge which adjusts the leading edge end of the mean aerodynamic chord upward.All of these slight changes add up to 3/8" less on the GN-1. Perhaps I am splittingtoo many hairs here and the actual angle of incidence may not be thatcritical. Maybe several with flying GN-1's could chime in here.>> >> Jon in central NY>> >> -------->> Jon Coxwell>> GN-1 Builder>> Recycle and preserve the planet>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 820#290820>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Rick Holland> Castle Rock, Colorado> > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:05:50 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: cork float
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cork float
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cork float
Re: Pietenpol-List: cork float
Original Posted By: H RULE
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Big day!!
Original Posted By: Roman Bukolt
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: Mike Townsley > > Way to go Douwe! The plane looks fantastic, a true antique!> Pics with > the old watertower look great! Nice job. I am> anxious to hear of the > maiden voyage!> Mike Townsley> > helspersew(at)aol.com> wrote:> > This message is from Douwe Blumberg.> >> >> > Went to the strip today, which is really a slice of> paradise. 3100' of> > beautiful smooth grass, with no buildings on either> side and NO traffic> > whatsover. God is good!!!> >> > Hooked everything back up after having removed the> wings for transport, gave> > it a good bath and fiddled with the mixture control a> little and then we> > were off for some taxi-testing. Everything> worked well, I ever got the tail> > up at a nice slow speed, thanks to a good breeze> coming straight down the> > runway.> >> > Seemed rather surreal after all this time. The> pictures are helping me> > believe it is almost there!> > Douwe> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: Mike Townsley > > Way to go Douwe! The plane looks fantastic, a true antique!> Pics with > the old watertower look great! Nice job. I am> anxious to hear of the > maiden voyage!> Mike Townsley> > helspersew(at)aol.com> wrote:> > This message is from Douwe Blumberg.> >> >> > Went to the strip today, which is really a slice of> paradise. 3100' of> > beautiful smooth grass, with no buildings on either> side and NO traffic> > whatsover. God is good!!!> >> > Hooked everything back up after having removed the> wings for transport, gave> > it a good bath and fiddled with the mixture control a> little and then we> > were off for some taxi-testing. Everything> worked well, I ever got the tail> > up at a nice slow speed, thanks to a good breeze> coming straight down the> > runway.> >> > Seemed rather surreal after all this time. The> pictures are helping me> > believe it is almost there!> > Douwe> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________