Original Posted By: Dale Mccleskey
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newby coming to Brodhead
Pietenpol-List: Newby coming to Brodhead
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Welcome Dale! And congratulations on your airplane!I'm pretty new to Brodhead myself (second trip this year), so I'll let one of theveterans fill you in on how to best experience the magic. I believe that thereare several new airplanes planning to attend this year, which ought to begreat. We (my family and I) were fortunate to make it last year and had a reallygreat time. I will say this... while most of the group are very hospitable and civilized, thereare a few unruly, sneaky and salty sorts among us. I won't name any names,but one real shady character rhymes with "john recine"... if you get any correspondencefrom someone with a name that sounds like "john recine"... hide yourbeer, your food and your valuables. [Wink] We sure do look forward to meeting you, and getting an eyeball on your airplane!--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:53:41 -0400
Welcome Dale! And congratulations on your airplane!I'm pretty new to Brodhead myself (second trip this year), so I'll let one of theveterans fill you in on how to best experience the magic. I believe that thereare several new airplanes planning to attend this year, which ought to begreat. We (my family and I) were fortunate to make it last year and had a reallygreat time. I will say this... while most of the group are very hospitable and civilized, thereare a few unruly, sneaky and salty sorts among us. I won't name any names,but one real shady character rhymes with "john recine"... if you get any correspondencefrom someone with a name that sounds like "john recine"... hide yourbeer, your food and your valuables. [Wink] We sure do look forward to meeting you, and getting an eyeball on your airplane!--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:53:41 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in DFW area
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Amsafetyc wrote:> I am watching and reading Mark! can I have the women?See what I mean... I refrained from mentioning "hiding the women" because Daleis new here, and obviously a good Christian. I didn't want to scare him off beforewe got to hear more about his airplane. On the other hand... John is quitethe heathen... ha ha! Yes John, I am aware that you are ALWAYS watching and reading. You walked rightinto my trap. [Laughing]--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in DFW area
Amsafetyc wrote:> I am watching and reading Mark! can I have the women?See what I mean... I refrained from mentioning "hiding the women" because Daleis new here, and obviously a good Christian. I didn't want to scare him off beforewe got to hear more about his airplane. On the other hand... John is quitethe heathen... ha ha! Yes John, I am aware that you are ALWAYS watching and reading. You walked rightinto my trap. [Laughing]--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol in DFW area
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Hi Juan - I'm in Georgetown, north of Austin, about 3-4 hours south of DFW. You'rewelcome to visit. Call me at 512-422-6371. If you're not a heavyweightI'll take you flying in NX899KP.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Juan - I'm in Georgetown, north of Austin, about 3-4 hours south of DFW. You'rewelcome to visit. Call me at 512-422-6371. If you're not a heavyweightI'll take you flying in NX899KP.Kevin PurteeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: my new engine arrived!
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Progress on the rebuild is coming along well. Big milestone today, justuncrated my recently purchased 0-200!! Has 250hrs on it and is firewallforward from a 150. Looks pretty good. The compression supposedly is good,we'll double ck here, but so far so good. Now have to build the enginemount.Just heard from Don that the Woodwork is all done on the wings and he'sgetting ready to re-cover soon.So things are moving forward which is very promising. Maybe next spring?She's going to have a very different look from the old "Ford" look. I thinkI'm going after the 1930's British look since I won't have that beautifulFord up front.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my new engine arrived!
Progress on the rebuild is coming along well. Big milestone today, justuncrated my recently purchased 0-200!! Has 250hrs on it and is firewallforward from a 150. Looks pretty good. The compression supposedly is good,we'll double ck here, but so far so good. Now have to build the enginemount.Just heard from Don that the Woodwork is all done on the wings and he'sgetting ready to re-cover soon.So things are moving forward which is very promising. Maybe next spring?She's going to have a very different look from the old "Ford" look. I thinkI'm going after the 1930's British look since I won't have that beautifulFord up front.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my new engine arrived!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Dale McCleskey"
Jack,The comments provided are all good ones especially from those that have flyingairplanes. As said before the panel layout is a personal preference. I would add this. Go to the aviation magazines and cut out or copy pictures ofactual instrument faces and place them in the locations you have selected.Then get some seat time, get in and make whirring noises, lean left and right,look out over the nose and make a landing or two while continuing a scan of theinstruments. Try to imagine some unusual attitudes, a snap roll or loop andfigure out what information you are going to need to make a safe recovery. Putthe plane in 3 point and level flight attitude and see what difference it makes.Lastly be sure to log your time and count your landings.Jon Coxwell--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Jack,The comments provided are all good ones especially from those that have flyingairplanes. As said before the panel layout is a personal preference. I would add this. Go to the aviation magazines and cut out or copy pictures ofactual instrument faces and place them in the locations you have selected.Then get some seat time, get in and make whirring noises, lean left and right,look out over the nose and make a landing or two while continuing a scan of theinstruments. Try to imagine some unusual attitudes, a snap roll or loop andfigure out what information you are going to need to make a safe recovery. Putthe plane in 3 point and level flight attitude and see what difference it makes.Lastly be sure to log your time and count your landings.Jon Coxwell--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun bunch. John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't even be coming,and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so yes. As far as I'm concerned,you can have the women though I think they may have something to sayabout it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait, but I've got to refresh my crosscountry navigarion skills.--------Dale McCleskeyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:04:16 -0500
OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun bunch. John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't even be coming,and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so yes. As far as I'm concerned,you can have the women though I think they may have something to sayabout it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait, but I've got to refresh my crosscountry navigarion skills.--------Dale McCleskeyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:04:16 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Denver area parts
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Denver area parts
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Denver area parts
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Original Posted By: H RULE
yocum137 wrote:> Dale,> > If you can get your wife a ride in a Piet, or some other open cockpit > airplane, she'll start to come around. I'd have to second that idea.--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:47:06 -0700 (PDT)
yocum137 wrote:> Dale,> > If you can get your wife a ride in a Piet, or some other open cockpit > airplane, she'll start to come around. I'd have to second that idea.--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:47:06 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
> >> > > I'll re-post something that I posted here in Oct. of 2006 when there> was a discussion of wing strut failures. Someone said that there> had never been an inflight failure of an Air Camper wing and the> fact was disputed. Turns out that the case in question did NOT> involve a wing spar failure... it was the wing strut. Here's the> post=2C and the reference to aerobatics:> > >I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure=2C> >to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts> >and all that. Chet Peek's book=2C discussing Bennie Skaarberg's> >Model A powered Aircamper=2C gives Pietenpol's comments following> >the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed> >the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts.> >Skaarberg had tried to do a loop=2C fallen out of the maneuver at> >the top=2C thus putting a reverse load on the struts=2C and the wing> >came off."> >> >Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed> >nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap> >of wreckage=2C but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was> >based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem> >to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension=2C but> >buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent> >4130 streamlined tubing struts.> > Other discussions in the past seemed to indicate that the standard> Air Camper setup is only good for ONE negative G=2C and various pilots> (Mike Cuy comes to mind) reported having experienced considerably> more than one negative G in flying their aircampers. This was in> relation to the requirement for jury struts on the wing lift struts.> Jury struts should be considered to be mandatory... aerobatics or> not.> > Mikee also pointed out that Mr. Pietenpol's original wing strut> material had internal stiffeners that today's streamline tubing> does not have=2C so it's even questionable as to what the actual> capability of today's struts is compared to the internally> stiffened material of those days=2C with or without jury struts.> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio=2C TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > ============================================> > > _________________________________________________________________Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
> >> > > I'll re-post something that I posted here in Oct. of 2006 when there> was a discussion of wing strut failures. Someone said that there> had never been an inflight failure of an Air Camper wing and the> fact was disputed. Turns out that the case in question did NOT> involve a wing spar failure... it was the wing strut. Here's the> post=2C and the reference to aerobatics:> > >I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure=2C> >to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts> >and all that. Chet Peek's book=2C discussing Bennie Skaarberg's> >Model A powered Aircamper=2C gives Pietenpol's comments following> >the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed> >the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts.> >Skaarberg had tried to do a loop=2C fallen out of the maneuver at> >the top=2C thus putting a reverse load on the struts=2C and the wing> >came off."> >> >Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed> >nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap> >of wreckage=2C but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was> >based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem> >to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension=2C but> >buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent> >4130 streamlined tubing struts.> > Other discussions in the past seemed to indicate that the standard> Air Camper setup is only good for ONE negative G=2C and various pilots> (Mike Cuy comes to mind) reported having experienced considerably> more than one negative G in flying their aircampers. This was in> relation to the requirement for jury struts on the wing lift struts.> Jury struts should be considered to be mandatory... aerobatics or> not.> > Mikee also pointed out that Mr. Pietenpol's original wing strut> material had internal stiffeners that today's streamline tubing> does not have=2C so it's even questionable as to what the actual> capability of today's struts is compared to the internally> stiffened material of those days=2C with or without jury struts.> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio=2C TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > ============================================> > > _________________________________________________________________Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead