Original Posted By: Phil Hopkins
Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Re: Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/CorvairPhilMy Piet is a short fuselage with a corvair. I am 200+ and have had a 200+ passenger. The ROC was not great but ok. My wing sets about four inches aft of vertical on the cabanes. Jim Ballew_pietn38b(at)aol.com_ (mailto:pietn38b(at)aol.com) In a message dated 7/18/2010 6:41:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hopkinsp2(at)gmail.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Phil Hopkins Hello all,Sorry to ask this question now while so many are busy packing or already on their way to Brodhead, but I thought I'd throw it out there, anyway, and don't have to be in a hurry for answers.I've done some research, but would appreciate hearing what the hoary heads on the list think as well.I have the chance at a Piet project, but it's a short fuselage (already built). I'm REALLY set on either an A-65 or a Corvair engine. I understand that this might be an okay pairing, given the tail heaviness of the design. I'm about 180-185 and will be flying passengers smaller than me at all times, I'm pretty sure. Would a short fuselage work fine in this scenario? Would it be better, if I'm set on those engines, to build a longer fuselage myself?Thanks for any help.Phil________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/CorvairPhilMy Piet is a short fuselage with a corvair. I am 200+ and have had a 200+ passenger. The ROC was not great but ok. My wing sets about four inches aft of vertical on the cabanes. Jim Ballew_pietn38b(at)aol.com_ (mailto:pietn38b(at)aol.com) In a message dated 7/18/2010 6:41:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hopkinsp2(at)gmail.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Phil Hopkins Hello all,Sorry to ask this question now while so many are busy packing or already on their way to Brodhead, but I thought I'd throw it out there, anyway, and don't have to be in a hurry for answers.I've done some research, but would appreciate hearing what the hoary heads on the list think as well.I have the chance at a Piet project, but it's a short fuselage (already built). I'm REALLY set on either an A-65 or a Corvair engine. I understand that this might be an okay pairing, given the tail heaviness of the design. I'm about 180-185 and will be flying passengers smaller than me at all times, I'm pretty sure. Would a short fuselage work fine in this scenario? Would it be better, if I'm set on those engines, to build a longer fuselage myself?Thanks for any help.Phil________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Phil,Mike Cuy's Lindy-winning Pietenpol has a short fuselage and an A-65Continental and flies very well indeed. I'm 200 lbs and have flown Mike'splane (as well as my own A65 powered long fuselage Pietenpol). In somerespects I think the short fuse is better (it's lighter). I'd say go forit.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Phil,Mike Cuy's Lindy-winning Pietenpol has a short fuselage and an A-65Continental and flies very well indeed. I'm 200 lbs and have flown Mike'splane (as well as my own A65 powered long fuselage Pietenpol). In somerespects I think the short fuse is better (it's lighter). I'd say go forit.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: CJ Borsuk
RE: Pietenpol-List: Construction has begun!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looking good, Chuck! Very nice looking shop. I'm expecting to see an awardwinning Pietenpol coming out of such a shop.Hopefully I can come by and see it firsthand after Brodhead. Maybe I cancome with Jim Markle - he's going to be in the area. I'm sure there'ssomething in that shop he can use.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Looking good, Chuck! Very nice looking shop. I'm expecting to see an awardwinning Pietenpol coming out of such a shop.Hopefully I can come by and see it firsthand after Brodhead. Maybe I cancome with Jim Markle - he's going to be in the area. I'm sure there'ssomething in that shop he can use.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Thanks for the thoughts, guys. One other question I have is whether the shortfuselage exacerbates or moderates the tendency to ground loop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks for the thoughts, guys. One other question I have is whether the shortfuselage exacerbates or moderates the tendency to ground loop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Neither. Those tendencies come from the pilot.Seriously, the distance between the mains and the tailwheel is insignifigantcompared to other things such as what kind of brakes are used, whether atailwheel or tailskid is used, etc.I've flown both and neither is particularly prone to groundlooping.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Neither. Those tendencies come from the pilot.Seriously, the distance between the mains and the tailwheel is insignifigantcompared to other things such as what kind of brakes are used, whether atailwheel or tailskid is used, etc.I've flown both and neither is particularly prone to groundlooping.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: short fuse and A-65/Corvair
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Oh, I've already had my groundloop and it was in a long fuselage Pietenpol(mine), but it didn't groundloop because it was a long fuselage. Itgroundlooped because the axle broke.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Oh, I've already had my groundloop and it was in a long fuselage Pietenpol(mine), but it didn't groundloop because it was a long fuselage. Itgroundlooped because the axle broke.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet
Original Posted By: "Mild Bill"
Dan wrote:>There was a 7-8 second lag before any reading came up on the gauge,>but when it did start to increase it was nice and smooth, not the>*pop* like before.Exactly what my A75 does.>Initial cold oil pressure was 45-50 and only fell to about 42>when the temp climbed to 175F. At idle it was 15.My oil pressure is well up into the green, even at idle, up inthe 40s. In flight, it's right where yours is. And my oil tempdoesn't get to 180F till I've been in the air cruising or climbingfor maybe 10-15 minutes or more. I think you're there. Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet
Dan wrote:>There was a 7-8 second lag before any reading came up on the gauge,>but when it did start to increase it was nice and smooth, not the>*pop* like before.Exactly what my A75 does.>Initial cold oil pressure was 45-50 and only fell to about 42>when the temp climbed to 175F. At idle it was 15.My oil pressure is well up into the green, even at idle, up inthe 40s. In flight, it's right where yours is. And my oil tempdoesn't get to 180F till I've been in the air cruising or climbingfor maybe 10-15 minutes or more. I think you're there. Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet