Original Posted By: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
With all of this recent talk of wrapped and soldered cable ends and riveted brackets,someone is soon bound to ask for a source of casein glue, Irish linen,nitrocellulose dope and 6-ply hard cardboard for leading edge material. Oh, andalso let us not forget about those SF-325 and SF-326 turnbuckles...--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
RE: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming 65 Hp ad
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ash
That good info to know....nobody wants a "Boat anchor" on the front of their plane.BrianSLC-UTCont. 0-200-----Original Message-----
That good info to know....nobody wants a "Boat anchor" on the front of their plane.BrianSLC-UTCont. 0-200-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming 65 Hp ad
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming 65 Hp ad
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
After seeing this post, I decided last week to take advantage of the sale pricesand ordered the set of 4 Bingelis books and also the full set of the Flyingand Gliding manuals. UPS just dropped them on my doorstep 10 minutes ago. Iwas going to paint my kitchen ceiling today, but I have a really strong suspicionthat's not going to happen right now!
--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
After seeing this post, I decided last week to take advantage of the sale pricesand ordered the set of 4 Bingelis books and also the full set of the Flyingand Gliding manuals. UPS just dropped them on my doorstep 10 minutes ago. Iwas going to paint my kitchen ceiling today, but I have a really strong suspicionthat's not going to happen right now!
--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cablesOriginal Posted By: Gary Wilson
Since you asked....http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/27779 ... LUE.htmlOn Sep 24, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote:> > With all of this recent talk of wrapped and soldered cable ends and riveted brackets,someone is soon bound to ask for a source of casein glue, Irish linen,nitrocellulose dope and 6-ply hard cardboard for leading edge material. Oh,and also let us not forget about those SF-325 and SF-326 turnbuckles...> > --------> Billy McCaskill> Urbana, IL> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 635#313635> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Since you asked....http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/27779 ... LUE.htmlOn Sep 24, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote:> > With all of this recent talk of wrapped and soldered cable ends and riveted brackets,someone is soon bound to ask for a source of casein glue, Irish linen,nitrocellulose dope and 6-ply hard cardboard for leading edge material. Oh,and also let us not forget about those SF-325 and SF-326 turnbuckles...> > --------> Billy McCaskill> Urbana, IL> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 635#313635> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
Original Posted By: "VanDy"
thanks for all the great feedback, as always
i think im going to go with stainlessthough, the extra cost seems to be worth it in this case, although im goingto do some weight research and what not as well. One of the reasons im steering away from galvanized is that over the winter i foundthe Pietenpol with a broken tailwheel steering cable (galvanized) and itreally made me think, ok so what do the ones in the wing look like.... they didntlook bad, but enough to make me replace them. A quick history about theplane. It has sat in an open T-hangar, the kind where there is another plane180 facing 180 degrees on either side. for the last 8 years. Although i'll bestoring it in a closed hangar, it makes me think!Now im about to go out and take a rough measurement of just how much I need andadd 25%, although will probly end up ordering what i can afford when i can!Thanks again!!AN hardware (short of turn buckles) are in the mail.Corvair is ready to come off.Carb is waiting to be rebuilt.tail feathers ready for coverthanks for all the great feedback and advice!!--------www.vansavition.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
thanks for all the great feedback, as always
i think im going to go with stainlessthough, the extra cost seems to be worth it in this case, although im goingto do some weight research and what not as well. One of the reasons im steering away from galvanized is that over the winter i foundthe Pietenpol with a broken tailwheel steering cable (galvanized) and itreally made me think, ok so what do the ones in the wing look like.... they didntlook bad, but enough to make me replace them. A quick history about theplane. It has sat in an open T-hangar, the kind where there is another plane180 facing 180 degrees on either side. for the last 8 years. Although i'll bestoring it in a closed hangar, it makes me think!Now im about to go out and take a rough measurement of just how much I need andadd 25%, although will probly end up ordering what i can afford when i can!Thanks again!!AN hardware (short of turn buckles) are in the mail.Corvair is ready to come off.Carb is waiting to be rebuilt.tail feathers ready for coverthanks for all the great feedback and advice!!--------www.vansavition.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cablesOriginal Posted By: "Jack"
hey Billy, whats wrong with the cardboard leading edge? I just got done pullingthat off of my wing! and it originally came in at 662 pounds with a corvair,so im hoping to shave a few extra pounds off where i can!--------www.vansavition.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
hey Billy, whats wrong with the cardboard leading edge? I just got done pullingthat off of my wing! and it originally came in at 662 pounds with a corvair,so im hoping to shave a few extra pounds off where i can!--------www.vansavition.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I bought is the onlyone I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that crisscross between thewing struts. The fella that I bought it from told me to keep in mind that ifa wing drops, or when you level it out after a bank, that it "takes all she got"to get that wing up level again. He put in some quick gap seals on the airleronsusing dope/fabric, and said that it helps a little, but he said to justbe aware of it when the time comes to fly it. The airframe does have about 480hrson it, so it IS a proven airframe, but I am wondering if this lack of crossbracing may be contributing to the wing possibly warping slightly with aileronuse, etc..also, before the last person bought it and rebuilt it, it was in a mishap backin '02. This, in my mind confirms my theory about the lack of cross bracing. Here'san excerpt of the accident back then:He began the takeoff roll and initiated anormal climb until about 20 feet above ground level (agl) when the airplane suddenlyand violentlybanked to the left. He applied full right rudder and also right aileron input butwas not able torecover before the left wing impacted the ground. He then reduced power and theairplane thennosed over and came to rest on a closed runway. Postcrash, he checked the flightcontrols andstated, "they moved correctly and freely." He also stated that there was no evidenceof pre-impactstructural failure or malfunction.Any thoughts on this?LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_13 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I bought is the onlyone I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that crisscross between thewing struts. The fella that I bought it from told me to keep in mind that ifa wing drops, or when you level it out after a bank, that it "takes all she got"to get that wing up level again. He put in some quick gap seals on the airleronsusing dope/fabric, and said that it helps a little, but he said to justbe aware of it when the time comes to fly it. The airframe does have about 480hrson it, so it IS a proven airframe, but I am wondering if this lack of crossbracing may be contributing to the wing possibly warping slightly with aileronuse, etc..also, before the last person bought it and rebuilt it, it was in a mishap backin '02. This, in my mind confirms my theory about the lack of cross bracing. Here'san excerpt of the accident back then:He began the takeoff roll and initiated anormal climb until about 20 feet above ground level (agl) when the airplane suddenlyand violentlybanked to the left. He applied full right rudder and also right aileron input butwas not able torecover before the left wing impacted the ground. He then reduced power and theairplane thennosed over and came to rest on a closed runway. Postcrash, he checked the flightcontrols andstated, "they moved correctly and freely." He also stated that there was no evidenceof pre-impactstructural failure or malfunction.Any thoughts on this?LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_13 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: onr more thing.... cables
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Why did you remove the cardboard leading edge material? Was it deteriortated?If it were plywood, it would probably still be in good shape.Also, I think that the plywood will add more strength to the wing and also probablybe a few pounds lighter.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Why did you remove the cardboard leading edge material? Was it deteriortated?If it were plywood, it would probably still be in good shape.Also, I think that the plywood will add more strength to the wing and also probablybe a few pounds lighter.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel cap vent
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
All,I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized. Lookingfor the best way to secure the line. Braze solder? Will I need to grindthe galvanized coating off? Any help would be great!Go Hawks!JackDSMJack Textor29 SW 58th DriveDes Moines, IA 50312www.textors.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel cap vent
All,I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized. Lookingfor the best way to secure the line. Braze solder? Will I need to grindthe galvanized coating off? Any help would be great!Go Hawks!JackDSMJack Textor29 SW 58th DriveDes Moines, IA 50312www.textors.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel cap vent
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
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