Original Posted By: Michael Perez
In the military anytime a new guy comes on the scene he is called a Newby.- That's me.- Name is Chuck Campbell.- Dan Helsper led me to this list.- I have been building an AirCamper since last May.- Have all the ribs done, the tail surfaces done except for varnishing and covering/painting.- Fuselage is about half done.- Have the wood for the wing spars.- Just need to rip them to the proper width.- Am getting ready to installl the controls in the fuselage.- As soon as that is complete I can put on the plywood sides, seats, turtle-back etc.- I have just about all the metal pieces ready to go.- Dan has been helping me-by showing me how to get to the Stewart glue videos.- I want some info from some of you guys (like Shad Bell and Rick Holland)-who used house paint.- I don't have access to a paint booth to use the Stewart paint system.- All I have is a couple of paint brushes.- Any word of advice from any of you would be appreciated.- I've been flying about all of my adult life but am plowing new ground building this Piet.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:04:13 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Newby
Pietenpol-List: Newby
Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
In the military anytime a new guy comes on the scene he is called a Newby. That's me. Name is Chuck Campbell. Dan Helsper led me to this list. I have been building an AirCamper since last May. Have all the ribs done, the tail surfaces done except for varnishing and covering/painting. Fuselage is about half done. Have the wood for the wing spars. Just need to rip them to the proper width. Am getting ready to installl the controls in the fuselage. As soon as that is complete I can put on the plywood sides, seats, turtle-back etc. I have just about all the metal pieces ready to go. Dan has been helping me by showing me how to get to the Stewart glue videos. I want some info from some of you guys (like Shad Bell and Rick Holland) who used house paint. I don't have access to a paint booth to use the Stewart paint system. All I have is a couple of paint brushes. Any word of advice from any of you would be appreciated. I've been flying about all of my adult life but am plowing new ground building this Piet.________________________________________________________________________________
In the military anytime a new guy comes on the scene he is called a Newby. That's me. Name is Chuck Campbell. Dan Helsper led me to this list. I have been building an AirCamper since last May. Have all the ribs done, the tail surfaces done except for varnishing and covering/painting. Fuselage is about half done. Have the wood for the wing spars. Just need to rip them to the proper width. Am getting ready to installl the controls in the fuselage. As soon as that is complete I can put on the plywood sides, seats, turtle-back etc. I have just about all the metal pieces ready to go. Dan has been helping me by showing me how to get to the Stewart glue videos. I want some info from some of you guys (like Shad Bell and Rick Holland) who used house paint. I don't have access to a paint booth to use the Stewart paint system. All I have is a couple of paint brushes. Any word of advice from any of you would be appreciated. I've been flying about all of my adult life but am plowing new ground building this Piet.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Original Posted By: "at7000ft"
Hi Craig,As you said, I built the wooden fuselage, but I just took a look through the FGMreprint, and in the article, it says to"... tack weld each of the sides together. Then turn them bottom side up, and withthe top longerons on the floor over the top view, tack in the cross membersfor the top."Sure sounds like the same method as used for the wooden fuselage.But then, I don't know whether that would be the "preferred" method, by today'sstandards.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fgm1 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Hi Craig,As you said, I built the wooden fuselage, but I just took a look through the FGMreprint, and in the article, it says to"... tack weld each of the sides together. Then turn them bottom side up, and withthe top longerons on the floor over the top view, tack in the cross membersfor the top."Sure sounds like the same method as used for the wooden fuselage.But then, I don't know whether that would be the "preferred" method, by today'sstandards.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fgm1 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)
Original Posted By: "at7000ft"
[quote="cncampbell(at)windstream."]In the military anytime a new guy comes on thescene he is called a Newby. That's me. Name is Chuck Campbell. Dan Helsperled me to this list. I have been building an AirCamper since last May.Have all the ribs done, the tail surfaces done except for varnishing and covering/painting.Fuselage is about half done. Have the wood for the wing spars.Just need to rip them to the proper width. Am getting ready to installlthe controls in the fuselage. As soon as that is complete I can put on theplywood sides, seats, turtle-back etc. I have just about all the metal piecesready to go. Dan has been helping me by showing me how to get to the Stewartglue videos. I want some info from some of you guys (like Shad Bell and RickHolland) who used house paint. I don't have access to a paint booth touse the Stewart paint system. All I have is a couple of paint brushes. Anyword of advice from any of you would be appreciated. I've been flying aboutall of my adult life but am plowing new ground building this Piet. > Howdy ChuckSounds like you are doing great. As far as cover and paint goes I used lightweightuncertified fabric glued down with Stewart Ecobond (best to use the stuffabove 60 degrees which ain't easy this time of year), very easy to use and notoxic vapors. Then I painted using the Bell Latex method, a cross coat of latexprimer (I think Shad may have done 2) followed by 2 cross coats of exteriorSatin latex (Sherwin Williams Super Paint in my case). I experimented a bit with thinning and ended up adding 10% distilled water and10% Floetrol by weight if brushing (used 3" foam brushes). And if you have a sprayerand compressor it makes the job even easier. I sprayed my tail pieces buthad to thin quit a bit more, I added 25% water and 10% Floetrol using a cheapLowes HVLP sprayer.Attached a picture, keep up the good work.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)
[quote="cncampbell(at)windstream."]In the military anytime a new guy comes on thescene he is called a Newby. That's me. Name is Chuck Campbell. Dan Helsperled me to this list. I have been building an AirCamper since last May.Have all the ribs done, the tail surfaces done except for varnishing and covering/painting.Fuselage is about half done. Have the wood for the wing spars.Just need to rip them to the proper width. Am getting ready to installlthe controls in the fuselage. As soon as that is complete I can put on theplywood sides, seats, turtle-back etc. I have just about all the metal piecesready to go. Dan has been helping me by showing me how to get to the Stewartglue videos. I want some info from some of you guys (like Shad Bell and RickHolland) who used house paint. I don't have access to a paint booth touse the Stewart paint system. All I have is a couple of paint brushes. Anyword of advice from any of you would be appreciated. I've been flying aboutall of my adult life but am plowing new ground building this Piet. > Howdy ChuckSounds like you are doing great. As far as cover and paint goes I used lightweightuncertified fabric glued down with Stewart Ecobond (best to use the stuffabove 60 degrees which ain't easy this time of year), very easy to use and notoxic vapors. Then I painted using the Bell Latex method, a cross coat of latexprimer (I think Shad may have done 2) followed by 2 cross coats of exteriorSatin latex (Sherwin Williams Super Paint in my case). I experimented a bit with thinning and ended up adding 10% distilled water and10% Floetrol by weight if brushing (used 3" foam brushes). And if you have a sprayerand compressor it makes the job even easier. I sprayed my tail pieces buthad to thin quit a bit more, I added 25% water and 10% Floetrol using a cheapLowes HVLP sprayer.Attached a picture, keep up the good work.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Rick,Same process on the aluminum?Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (22 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Rick,Same process on the aluminum?Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (22 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
For some objective latex durability results. My latex test panel is still lookinggreat after 6 years on a fencepost outside 365 days a year facing true Southat 6700 feet altitude in Colorado (lots of UV and direct sun). Just 2 crosscoats of Sherwin Williams Gloss Latex Super Paint. Tested with a punch tester2 years ago and couldn't go through on one side and punched through at nearlythe max tester reading on the other. Figure if you hanger your Piet and fly 100 hours a year it would take you (365* 24 * 6)/100 = 525.6 years to get your cover/paint job to the same state as thistest panel.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... __________
For some objective latex durability results. My latex test panel is still lookinggreat after 6 years on a fencepost outside 365 days a year facing true Southat 6700 feet altitude in Colorado (lots of UV and direct sun). Just 2 crosscoats of Sherwin Williams Gloss Latex Super Paint. Tested with a punch tester2 years ago and couldn't go through on one side and punched through at nearlythe max tester reading on the other. Figure if you hanger your Piet and fly 100 hours a year it would take you (365* 24 * 6)/100 = 525.6 years to get your cover/paint job to the same state as thistest panel.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Original Posted By: "at7000ft"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)Rick your plane is looking great. are you going to be able to fly it to Brodhead this year?do not archive Randy BushNX294RB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)Rick your plane is looking great. are you going to be able to fly it to Brodhead this year?do not archive Randy BushNX294RB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby
Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)
Original Posted By: "at7000ft"
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> Rick,> > Same process on the aluminum?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (22 ribs down.) > > --Yup. Except the aluminum is etched first.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> Rick,> > Same process on the aluminum?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (22 ribs down.) > > --Yup. Except the aluminum is etched first.rick--------Rick HollandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things)