Original Posted By: "Dangerous Dave"
Looks good POP!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: On to the fuselage
Pietenpol-List: On to the fuselage
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
Howdy,done with the wings,off to cover the fuselage...getting closer.Dave--------Covering PietRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011 ... ______Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:14:51 -0800 (PST)
Howdy,done with the wings,off to cover the fuselage...getting closer.Dave--------Covering PietRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011 ... ______Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:14:51 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: On to the fuselage
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Pietenpol-List: Re: On to the fuselage
Original Posted By: "carson"
Im relatively new to this game so I dont want to seem like Im complaining, butI felt that I should share my experience with Charles Vogelsong and The DillsburgAeroplane Works in order to save others the frustration that a friend andI recently went through. Back in November I spent several days on the phone withMr. Vogelsong in an attempt to get accurate quotes on several lengths of 4130tubing. My friend and I combined our material lists in order to save on shipping...a small order from what we were told (over 30 full lengths and nearly$1800), but none the less it was everything we would need to complete our projects...and then some. Mr. Vogelsong does not have e-mail... as many of youknow, everything must be confirmed by phone and then faxed to him. How he managesto supply Aircraft Spruce, Wicks and other vendors (his claim) is beyondme. Anyhow, with our sizes, quantities and final quotes nailed down, we faxedit over to him... all neatly typed in spreadsheet format. A Marine and anArmy paratrooper... oh yeah, it was organized... heck, my six year old could haveunderstood it. A week or so goes by and I get a call from my friend... time to meet at his placeto unload the truck. We opened the carton and were surprised to find thatmuch of the material was severely scratched... one piece even had a major dentnear the center. Wow! This isnt the top notch stuff we were told about. Inaddition to that, we were short several pieces, but received more than we requestedof other sizes... the prices that we were quoted had changed too. We werescratching our heads at this point, thinking this certainly must have beenan honest mistake. My friend offered to call Mr. Vogelsong to sort things out,which he did... when he described what we had found to Vogelsong his replywas, so, what do you want me to do about it? My friend told him that we wouldlike the pieces that we were shorted, to which he replied, dont have em... mightnot have those sizes until February. Well, a fine time to tell us! He continuedto ask, What do you want me to do about it? Not as if he really wantedto work on a compromise, it was more as if he couldnt care less about us lowlybuilders trying to scrape up the parts for our flying machines. Im not sureif he is struggling with his age or what... Ive heard nothing but good thingsabout his operation and had looked forward to buying from him, but this wasthe last time either of us will do business with Dillsburg. I hope others havebetter experiences, but for anyone considering buying from this guy, being detailedand thorough isnt enough... he obviously doesnt care the way that he oncedid. Too bad, his outfit had a good reputation.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: On to the fuselage
Im relatively new to this game so I dont want to seem like Im complaining, butI felt that I should share my experience with Charles Vogelsong and The DillsburgAeroplane Works in order to save others the frustration that a friend andI recently went through. Back in November I spent several days on the phone withMr. Vogelsong in an attempt to get accurate quotes on several lengths of 4130tubing. My friend and I combined our material lists in order to save on shipping...a small order from what we were told (over 30 full lengths and nearly$1800), but none the less it was everything we would need to complete our projects...and then some. Mr. Vogelsong does not have e-mail... as many of youknow, everything must be confirmed by phone and then faxed to him. How he managesto supply Aircraft Spruce, Wicks and other vendors (his claim) is beyondme. Anyhow, with our sizes, quantities and final quotes nailed down, we faxedit over to him... all neatly typed in spreadsheet format. A Marine and anArmy paratrooper... oh yeah, it was organized... heck, my six year old could haveunderstood it. A week or so goes by and I get a call from my friend... time to meet at his placeto unload the truck. We opened the carton and were surprised to find thatmuch of the material was severely scratched... one piece even had a major dentnear the center. Wow! This isnt the top notch stuff we were told about. Inaddition to that, we were short several pieces, but received more than we requestedof other sizes... the prices that we were quoted had changed too. We werescratching our heads at this point, thinking this certainly must have beenan honest mistake. My friend offered to call Mr. Vogelsong to sort things out,which he did... when he described what we had found to Vogelsong his replywas, so, what do you want me to do about it? My friend told him that we wouldlike the pieces that we were shorted, to which he replied, dont have em... mightnot have those sizes until February. Well, a fine time to tell us! He continuedto ask, What do you want me to do about it? Not as if he really wantedto work on a compromise, it was more as if he couldnt care less about us lowlybuilders trying to scrape up the parts for our flying machines. Im not sureif he is struggling with his age or what... Ive heard nothing but good thingsabout his operation and had looked forward to buying from him, but this wasthe last time either of us will do business with Dillsburg. I hope others havebetter experiences, but for anyone considering buying from this guy, being detailedand thorough isnt enough... he obviously doesnt care the way that he oncedid. Too bad, his outfit had a good reputation.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: On to the fuselage
Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
Looks great DaveAre you going to fill the holes on the wing tip and if so howCarsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Looks great DaveAre you going to fill the holes on the wing tip and if so howCarsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________