Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Anyone make their tank from fiberglass? What's the best cloth to use - seems there are many advantages and disadvantages to each style.Tom B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
RE: Pietenpol-List: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: tmbrant(at)msn.com
I'd use a satin weave=2C (more glass to resin ratio) and use a vinyl ester resin. (not affected by fuel). Just my .02Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio
I'd use a satin weave=2C (more glass to resin ratio) and use a vinyl ester resin. (not affected by fuel). Just my .02Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio
RE: Pietenpol-List: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Gary, wind a couple of turns of the copper line in a circle about 2" or 3"in diameter (I think I wound mine around a spray can) to make a couple ofloops that can give the line some "give" and flexibility.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Gary, wind a couple of turns of the copper line in a circle about 2" or 3"in diameter (I think I wound mine around a spray can) to make a couple ofloops that can give the line some "give" and flexibility.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Pietenpol-List: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Re: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
Re: Pietenpol-List: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Listen to Jack.That is how it is installed on NX18235. 250 hours without a problem.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Listen to Jack.That is how it is installed on NX18235. 250 hours without a problem.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: airlion
Re: Pietenpol-List: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: TOM STINEMETZE
Tom, I have been studying the write-up and pictures of your fiberglass fuel tank. I have a couple of questions. 1). How does the tank get fastened into the center-section? Or do you just figure gravity and weight of fuel will hold it in place? 2). I notice you have assembled the center section without the metal butt joint straps and cabane fittings installed. How do you plan to weld the cabane fittings to the joint straps without setting your center section on fire? I was planning to weld the two together and fasten them to the spars before the butt ribs go on. Am I missing something here? Nice job on the tank. Another question -- 3). When joining the four sections together do you wet the mating surfaces or just let the additional layers of cloth hold them together? ----- Original Message -----
Tom, I have been studying the write-up and pictures of your fiberglass fuel tank. I have a couple of questions. 1). How does the tank get fastened into the center-section? Or do you just figure gravity and weight of fuel will hold it in place? 2). I notice you have assembled the center section without the metal butt joint straps and cabane fittings installed. How do you plan to weld the cabane fittings to the joint straps without setting your center section on fire? I was planning to weld the two together and fasten them to the spars before the butt ribs go on. Am I missing something here? Nice job on the tank. Another question -- 3). When joining the four sections together do you wet the mating surfaces or just let the additional layers of cloth hold them together? ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: Charles Campbell
Here's a link to some pics of my tank construction;http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-0 ... 6.htmlNext go to page nine where I finaly got around to boltingthe thing in. Rats! It looks like I didn't put up any pics of thefiller cap! I bought this cap for $5.00 at Arlington and madethe base for it. The base is brought up through from the inside and has a couple of layers of cloth over it extending out an inch. The black line you see in the glass are black marker used in the cutting process.It's Vinyl ester resin and "medium" cloth. That's all I can findon the bill I just looked up.Clif. ----- Original Message -----
Here's a link to some pics of my tank construction;http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-0 ... 6.htmlNext go to page nine where I finaly got around to boltingthe thing in. Rats! It looks like I didn't put up any pics of thefiller cap! I bought this cap for $5.00 at Arlington and madethe base for it. The base is brought up through from the inside and has a couple of layers of cloth over it extending out an inch. The black line you see in the glass are black marker used in the cutting process.It's Vinyl ester resin and "medium" cloth. That's all I can findon the bill I just looked up.Clif. ----- Original Message -----
RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Gardiner could you expand why it won't work on a Stromburg?Thanks,JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Gardiner could you expand why it won't work on a Stromburg?Thanks,JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: airlion
RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Gardiner, you may wish you had a primer in addition to the accelerator pumpof the Marvel Schebler. My RV-4 has a Marvel Schebler carburetor, and noprimer. It is almost impossible to start it when the temperature is below30, and I sincerely wish the builder had added a primer (it would be a realpain to add it now).Of course, if it is below 30 you probably won't be doing much flying in aPietenpol, but if you had a set of skis like Don Emch has, you might wishyou had a primer.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Gardiner, you may wish you had a primer in addition to the accelerator pumpof the Marvel Schebler. My RV-4 has a Marvel Schebler carburetor, and noprimer. It is almost impossible to start it when the temperature is below30, and I sincerely wish the builder had added a primer (it would be a realpain to add it now).Of course, if it is below 30 you probably won't be doing much flying in aPietenpol, but if you had a set of skis like Don Emch has, you might wishyou had a primer.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Copper Primer Line
Original Posted By: airlion
Jack I agree with you about the primer. It squirts the gas right in the intakeport and makes for less work on the starter or proper man. Also less likely tohave a carb fire. I was trying to hand prop a Cessna 140 I had years ago. Itwas cold and the starter wouldn't turn it over because it was so cold. It hadno primer but pumped the throttle. It sort of spit back and the carb and aid filtercaught fire......no fire extinguisher. The only damage was requiring a newair filter. I had a rag I tried to beat it out with but when the gas that wasthere burned up the fire went out.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:31:43 -0800 (PST)
Jack I agree with you about the primer. It squirts the gas right in the intakeport and makes for less work on the starter or proper man. Also less likely tohave a carb fire. I was trying to hand prop a Cessna 140 I had years ago. Itwas cold and the starter wouldn't turn it over because it was so cold. It hadno primer but pumped the throttle. It sort of spit back and the carb and aid filtercaught fire......no fire extinguisher. The only damage was requiring a newair filter. I had a rag I tried to beat it out with but when the gas that wasthere burned up the fire went out.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:31:43 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: TOM STINEMETZE
I wonder what other builders of 3-piece wings have done on what I call the center section joint strap/cabane fittings problem? I just don't see how Tom is going to put that subassembly in place without practically destroying the butt ribs. ----- Original Message -----
I wonder what other builders of 3-piece wings have done on what I call the center section joint strap/cabane fittings problem? I just don't see how Tom is going to put that subassembly in place without practically destroying the butt ribs. ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
What would be the benefits of steel strips embedded in wood?--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
What would be the benefits of steel strips embedded in wood?--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
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My Fiberglas tank ....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ft00 ... __________
My Fiberglas tank ....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ft00 ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Do you have pics of how you made your tank? Looks real nice.BrianSLC-----Original Message-----
Do you have pics of how you made your tank? Looks real nice.BrianSLC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
By the way, the idea in the OP would work. Really it would.Just use titanium instead of steel, by virtue of which you obtain "Negative Weight."8)--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank
By the way, the idea in the OP would work. Really it would.Just use titanium instead of steel, by virtue of which you obtain "Negative Weight."8)--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank