Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: "Bryan Reed"
2 cents -- Raising the wing farther above the thrust line should make it pitch more with power changes.- It would also act as if more dihedral was added. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2011, at 1:41 PM, "j_dunavin" wrote:> > I did a search, but was unable to find any information on wing height above the fuselage, limitations. I was able to sit in Tim's aircraft and thought that his 2" more than was the plans specify was OK, but what if i wanted to add an inch or two more than that? Has anyone raised the wing 4"? Are there any adverse effects? > Thanks > Joe> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 040#358040> > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin.le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
2 cents -- Raising the wing farther above the thrust line should make it pitch more with power changes.- It would also act as if more dihedral was added. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2011, at 1:41 PM, "j_dunavin" wrote:> > I did a search, but was unable to find any information on wing height above the fuselage, limitations. I was able to sit in Tim's aircraft and thought that his 2" more than was the plans specify was OK, but what if i wanted to add an inch or two more than that? Has anyone raised the wing 4"? Are there any adverse effects? > Thanks > Joe> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 040#358040> > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin.le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: airlion
I think beer is what started this venture of new words. It must be five o'clocksomewhere. : ) Try: Pieted, Similar to Tweeted but understood only by a select group with somewhatquestionable sanity. When Pieted topics are discussed in front of othernonbelievers it may cause them to appear distracted with glazed over eyes. Mostnotably, spouses but the same effect can be rendered upon even complete strangers. Cheers, Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:53:23 -0800 (PST)
I think beer is what started this venture of new words. It must be five o'clocksomewhere. : ) Try: Pieted, Similar to Tweeted but understood only by a select group with somewhatquestionable sanity. When Pieted topics are discussed in front of othernonbelievers it may cause them to appear distracted with glazed over eyes. Mostnotably, spouses but the same effect can be rendered upon even complete strangers. Cheers, Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:53:23 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: early builder
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: "airlion"
Garfdiner, that's not what your engine looked like at CC#21.----- Original Message -----
Garfdiner, that's not what your engine looked like at CC#21.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Original Posted By: "Kringle"
Bob,I do know you and congrats!JohnRussia, Oh--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Bob,I do know you and congrats!JohnRussia, Oh--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
And by the way Bob, you could of mentioned my name in your post for all the emotionalsupport I gave you while Roy was checking your crank case out.--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
And by the way Bob, you could of mentioned my name in your post for all the emotionalsupport I gave you while Roy was checking your crank case out.--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: airlion
In no particular order.......--- PietenPOLL: A survey of Pietenpol builders--- Pete & pole: A guy named Pete and his Polish friend--- Piet: the way you spell the nickname of the Pietenpol, or the way one hasto correct folks when they call it a Pete--- Air Camper: what you tell people your plane is when they don't understandthe word Pietenpol--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:49:16 -0800 (PST)
In no particular order.......--- PietenPOLL: A survey of Pietenpol builders--- Pete & pole: A guy named Pete and his Polish friend--- Piet: the way you spell the nickname of the Pietenpol, or the way one hasto correct folks when they call it a Pete--- Air Camper: what you tell people your plane is when they don't understandthe word Pietenpol--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:49:16 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Corvair College 21
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Original Posted By: "Piet2112"
Hello good Pietenpeople,Well this is my 100th post and my 50th birthday....... Figure I'm about halfway through my life and halfway (three years so far) throughmy Pietenpol project. Thanks to all of you for contributing to the quality of life's adventure...........!Jake--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Hello good Pietenpeople,Well this is my 100th post and my 50th birthday....... Figure I'm about halfway through my life and halfway (three years so far) throughmy Pietenpol project. Thanks to all of you for contributing to the quality of life's adventure...........!Jake--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Happy Birthday!Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Happy Birthday!Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100th posting...
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Happy Birthday!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Happy Birthday!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: James Haklin
Well folks, yesterday was a milestone in my Pietenpol building saga. I finallyhave moved the plane from home out to a heated hanger at the airport. I have acople of spots to finish varnishing on the fuselage then I will hang the engineand attach the wings. I have enclosed a couple of shots my Wife took of themoving process.We used a friends covered trailer for the move so it wound up being as easy process.Rick SchreiberValparaiso, IN________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:29:31 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Well folks, yesterday was a milestone in my Pietenpol building saga. I finallyhave moved the plane from home out to a heated hanger at the airport. I have acople of spots to finish varnishing on the fuselage then I will hang the engineand attach the wings. I have enclosed a couple of shots my Wife took of themoving process.We used a friends covered trailer for the move so it wound up being as easy process.Rick SchreiberValparaiso, IN________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:29:31 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
RE: Pietenpol-List: New home
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Way to go, Rick! A major milestone indeed!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Way to go, Rick! A major milestone indeed!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Pietenpol-List: New home
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Re: Pietenpol-List: New home
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
aircamperace(at)yahoo.com wrote:> So tell me then how may pietenpolocks does it take to screw in a landing light --NONE - Real Pietenpols don't have landing lights!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:07:31 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New home
aircamperace(at)yahoo.com wrote:> So tell me then how may pietenpolocks does it take to screw in a landing light --NONE - Real Pietenpols don't have landing lights!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:07:31 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New home
Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New homeNice Rick,I wish I could come make a visit, however for the time being that option is gone. It does feel good to bring her to the man cave rather then to remain a cellar dweller or basement beauty all dressed up and no place to go!Keep up the good work and the pics comingJohn________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New homeNice Rick,I wish I could come make a visit, however for the time being that option is gone. It does feel good to bring her to the man cave rather then to remain a cellar dweller or basement beauty all dressed up and no place to go!Keep up the good work and the pics comingJohn________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Original Posted By: early builder
Looks like a fantastic way to spend a beautiful fall day.....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:44:40 -0800 (PST)
Looks like a fantastic way to spend a beautiful fall day.....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:44:40 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
My God, speaking of flame thrower, what would you call your last post. Seemed likean awful innocent question and certainly NOT deserving of your reply. Peoplehang here for help and camaraderie. If WW is such a stellar operation it surelydoesn't need defending. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My God, speaking of flame thrower, what would you call your last post. Seemed likean awful innocent question and certainly NOT deserving of your reply. Peoplehang here for help and camaraderie. If WW is such a stellar operation it surelydoesn't need defending. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coining new words
Original Posted By: James Haklin
James, I think Gardiner was referring to the pile of Pietenpols that existed after the tornado at Sun 'n' Fun this spring. But your post is very true. I haven"t flown in a Piet for 4 hours -- yet. But it would certainly help to have a nice soft cushion!!!! ----- Original Message -----
James, I think Gardiner was referring to the pile of Pietenpols that existed after the tornado at Sun 'n' Fun this spring. But your post is very true. I haven"t flown in a Piet for 4 hours -- yet. But it would certainly help to have a nice soft cushion!!!! ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Hmmm, Bob... that's odd.I had a hard time finding Greg's question, other than your response to it. Finally,I found it in a different thread, posted three weeks ago. It appears thatimmediately after the question was asked, it was answered (quite succinctly).Having said that, I wouldn't necessarily say the question was "a load of crap".It was a simple question asking whether the delivery times have improved. Inthe past, some people had voiced concerns about extended delivery times for somecomponents. You say that yours was delivered in 60 days, and that is withinthe the amount of time listed on William's website for that item.It sounds as though (based on your experience) delivery times are not an issue.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hmmm, Bob... that's odd.I had a hard time finding Greg's question, other than your response to it. Finally,I found it in a different thread, posted three weeks ago. It appears thatimmediately after the question was asked, it was answered (quite succinctly).Having said that, I wouldn't necessarily say the question was "a load of crap".It was a simple question asking whether the delivery times have improved. Inthe past, some people had voiced concerns about extended delivery times for somecomponents. You say that yours was delivered in 60 days, and that is withinthe the amount of time listed on William's website for that item.It sounds as though (based on your experience) delivery times are not an issue.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 21
Original Posted By: early builder
Bob Dewenter,The question is NOT a "load of crap".You can contact me off list if you'd like the back story.Greg CardinalMinneapolisgcardinal(at)comcast.net ----- Original Message -----
Bob Dewenter,The question is NOT a "load of crap".You can contact me off list if you'd like the back story.Greg CardinalMinneapolisgcardinal(at)comcast.net ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
All,I attended a recent EAA webinar on test flying your homebuilt, it was verygood. You can view a recording on the EAA site. Johnny White was thepresenter and he sent me the following regarding breaking in a rebuiltengine. I'm not a mechanic but it could be some useful info for those inneed.Hi JackThanks for the comments and I am glad you enjoyed it. It is best to run inwith a Test Club prop in a cell but many an engine has been run in on theground and can be done with some reasonable precautions. Rent a Test Propif you can or a fine pitched prop so Rpm will come up to about 2200 static,into a good breeze, keep them short, Run long enough to get oil temp upabove 180 if it will.Three 15 to 20 minute runs are sufficient. Check the Oil Screen / filter anddrain just a little oil from the sump (Quick Drain installed) after thethird run and it has had time to drain down any particles that will settleto the bottom of the sump to check for metal. Check the lower plugs forcontamination and condition of burn. Have a CHT gauge or use a Pyro meter tocheck for the hot cylinder and just don't let them get over 375 degrees.Fuel starvation is still the killer and the big risk.In the air run it at 75% for 45 minutes at a time and cool very slowly withsmall, slow throttle movements. "Step" down your power slowly and smoothly.Power on descents from cruise altitude are a must. Leave power up and letspeed build and cool the engine gradually.Good luck with you venture and let me know how it goes or if you need anyhelp I will be here.Thanks again. Fly Safe & Smooth Johnny White Aviators Unlimited 276-614-0412 johnny(at)aviatorsunlimited.us www.aviatorsunlimited.usJackDSMN1929T________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
All,I attended a recent EAA webinar on test flying your homebuilt, it was verygood. You can view a recording on the EAA site. Johnny White was thepresenter and he sent me the following regarding breaking in a rebuiltengine. I'm not a mechanic but it could be some useful info for those inneed.Hi JackThanks for the comments and I am glad you enjoyed it. It is best to run inwith a Test Club prop in a cell but many an engine has been run in on theground and can be done with some reasonable precautions. Rent a Test Propif you can or a fine pitched prop so Rpm will come up to about 2200 static,into a good breeze, keep them short, Run long enough to get oil temp upabove 180 if it will.Three 15 to 20 minute runs are sufficient. Check the Oil Screen / filter anddrain just a little oil from the sump (Quick Drain installed) after thethird run and it has had time to drain down any particles that will settleto the bottom of the sump to check for metal. Check the lower plugs forcontamination and condition of burn. Have a CHT gauge or use a Pyro meter tocheck for the hot cylinder and just don't let them get over 375 degrees.Fuel starvation is still the killer and the big risk.In the air run it at 75% for 45 minutes at a time and cool very slowly withsmall, slow throttle movements. "Step" down your power slowly and smoothly.Power on descents from cruise altitude are a must. Leave power up and letspeed build and cool the engine gradually.Good luck with you venture and let me know how it goes or if you need anyhelp I will be here.Thanks again. Fly Safe & Smooth Johnny White Aviators Unlimited 276-614-0412 johnny(at)aviatorsunlimited.us www.aviatorsunlimited.usJackDSMN1929T________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Congratulations on the move. Your plane looks great. One thing did strike meas being quite funny. It is when I look at your fuse pic. All I see in thatphoto is a strange landing gear configuration. Do you think all three of youcan run fast enough to get it airborn? Congrats,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Congratulations on the move. Your plane looks great. One thing did strike meas being quite funny. It is when I look at your fuse pic. All I see in thatphoto is a strange landing gear configuration. Do you think all three of youcan run fast enough to get it airborn? Congrats,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New home
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
I guess what I am trying to say is that it is very Fred Flintson like. Still laughing here in So CA,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:39:38 -0800
I guess what I am trying to say is that it is very Fred Flintson like. Still laughing here in So CA,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:39:38 -0800