Original Posted By: Frank Metcalfe
>Hi im looking for cad drawings for the metal fittings (all of them). So i can have some of them cut . any boddy?Matthijsle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:37:50 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
>Hi im looking for cad drawings for the metal fittings (all of them). So i can have some of them cut . any boddy?Matthijsle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:58:16 -0800 (PST)
>Hi im looking for cad drawings for the metal fittings (all of them). So i can have some of them cut . any boddy?Matthijsle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:58:16 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Hi im looking for cad drawings for the metal fittings (all of them). So i can have some of them cut . any boddy?Matthijs________________________________________________________________________________
Hi im looking for cad drawings for the metal fittings (all of them). So i can have some of them cut . any boddy?Matthijs________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Matthijs,In general pre-cut metal fittings are not a great idea, since most of thefittings need to be fit to your individual structure, and nearly everyPietenpol is different to some degree. Even when building absolutely to theplans, you still need to make the fittings to fit your aprticular airplane.There are some fittings that can be done ahead, such as the drag wire andanti-drag wire fittings within the wing, and other mostly flat parts, butthey are easily made by tracing the outline onto a piece of chome-moly steeland cutting them out with a bandsaw. As I always tell any new builder, buythe Tony Bingelis books if you want to learn how to make the fittings.When cutting the parts out, be sure to allow a little extra material so youcan grind them down to a smooth final shape, with generous fillet radii inall the internal corners to minimize stress concentrations.As Mike Cuy points out in his videeo, it's a good idea to lengthen anyfitting that will hold a cable near the fabric to allow more room to insertthe clevis pin into the shackle. BHP didn't allow enough room on most ofhis fittings.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Matthijs,In general pre-cut metal fittings are not a great idea, since most of thefittings need to be fit to your individual structure, and nearly everyPietenpol is different to some degree. Even when building absolutely to theplans, you still need to make the fittings to fit your aprticular airplane.There are some fittings that can be done ahead, such as the drag wire andanti-drag wire fittings within the wing, and other mostly flat parts, butthey are easily made by tracing the outline onto a piece of chome-moly steeland cutting them out with a bandsaw. As I always tell any new builder, buythe Tony Bingelis books if you want to learn how to make the fittings.When cutting the parts out, be sure to allow a little extra material so youcan grind them down to a smooth final shape, with generous fillet radii inall the internal corners to minimize stress concentrations.As Mike Cuy points out in his videeo, it's a good idea to lengthen anyfitting that will hold a cable near the fabric to allow more room to insertthe clevis pin into the shackle. BHP didn't allow enough room on most ofhis fittings.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By: Frank Metcalfe
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Jig idea?
Original Posted By: "Ralph"
Bender, Speaking from experience, as I once walked past a gentleman that saw a pictureof a rib jig, I can with confidence state. Your jig could not possibly workas it uses ugly wood for blocks and when I measure (on my screen) the dimensionsare way off. Further advise is always available from myself on Piet building as I am nearly15% done with mine. Se ya, Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Bender, Speaking from experience, as I once walked past a gentleman that saw a pictureof a rib jig, I can with confidence state. Your jig could not possibly workas it uses ugly wood for blocks and when I measure (on my screen) the dimensionsare way off. Further advise is always available from myself on Piet building as I am nearly15% done with mine. Se ya, Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet on eBay
Original Posted By: "Baldeagle"
I=99m not sure where my approach leaves me in the Pietenpol community but here are my thoughts. After buying my plans about 20 years ago, I happened on to Charlie Rubek and a set of his ribs at Brodhead. Being a fiscally conservative (tight) individual I thought that investing in a set of ribs would commit me to continuing with the project. It worked. I=99ve haven=99t finished yet but am still building with the goal of completion. I do not feel I have missed out on anything because I didn=99t build my own ribs. I did build my own nose and tail ribs for the center section using one of Charlie=99s for a pattern. I also had an I.A. weld up my motor mount rather than trying to become proficient myself. I had the local machine shop cut out the centers and install brass bushings in motorcycle wheels for the landing gear. No matter what =9Cshort cuts=9D you might take it will still be =9Cyour=9D airplane and there will be no question of whether or not you meet the =9C51% rule=9D. Good luck and happy building and here=99s hope for a speedier completion than myself.I have just moved my fuselage on gear into a modified garage and attached the wings and drilled the struts yesterday. Learn how to use the archives for information. I used it to determine dihedral and washout just yesterday. Dihedral, none to three inches. Washout, none to 1.5 inches. Okay, you won=99t always get a single exact answer but like your rib question you can find out what others have and done and what worked for them.Ralph in South Dakota________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet on eBay
I=99m not sure where my approach leaves me in the Pietenpol community but here are my thoughts. After buying my plans about 20 years ago, I happened on to Charlie Rubek and a set of his ribs at Brodhead. Being a fiscally conservative (tight) individual I thought that investing in a set of ribs would commit me to continuing with the project. It worked. I=99ve haven=99t finished yet but am still building with the goal of completion. I do not feel I have missed out on anything because I didn=99t build my own ribs. I did build my own nose and tail ribs for the center section using one of Charlie=99s for a pattern. I also had an I.A. weld up my motor mount rather than trying to become proficient myself. I had the local machine shop cut out the centers and install brass bushings in motorcycle wheels for the landing gear. No matter what =9Cshort cuts=9D you might take it will still be =9Cyour=9D airplane and there will be no question of whether or not you meet the =9C51% rule=9D. Good luck and happy building and here=99s hope for a speedier completion than myself.I have just moved my fuselage on gear into a modified garage and attached the wings and drilled the struts yesterday. Learn how to use the archives for information. I used it to determine dihedral and washout just yesterday. Dihedral, none to three inches. Washout, none to 1.5 inches. Okay, you won=99t always get a single exact answer but like your rib question you can find out what others have and done and what worked for them.Ralph in South Dakota________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet on eBay
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Buyer is Dewey Davenport who has a private strip near Dayton, Ohio.-Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:39:58 -0800 (PST)
Buyer is Dewey Davenport who has a private strip near Dayton, Ohio.-Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:39:58 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
As long as its still active, go ahead. Its officially an airplane with an N-number!... I just would not have it Tattooed across your chest!--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:00:55 -0800 (PST)
As long as its still active, go ahead. Its officially an airplane with an N-number!... I just would not have it Tattooed across your chest!--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:00:55 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
The Faa says: THIS REGISTRATION NUMBER IS RESERVED IN YOUR NAME. IT IS NOT ASSIGNED TO AN AIRCRAFT AND MAY NOT BE PAINTED ON AN AIRCRAFT UNTIL AUTHORIZATION IS RECEIVED FROM THIS OFFICE "Bat Cave" Dave-----Original Message-----
The Faa says: THIS REGISTRATION NUMBER IS RESERVED IN YOUR NAME. IT IS NOT ASSIGNED TO AN AIRCRAFT AND MAY NOT BE PAINTED ON AN AIRCRAFT UNTIL AUTHORIZATION IS RECEIVED FROM THIS OFFICE "Bat Cave" Dave-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By:> Matthijs de Groot
that would help a lot thanx.On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Frank Metcalfe wrote:> I have them ... I'll see if I can find them. We use cad drawing for > templetes to cut our parts. We were buliding 6 Piets so mass > production payed off . We printed them on lable paper and printed > them., Just cut them out and stick them to your metal and cut them > out. the process worked well. I did extend some of the fittings for > clearance for bolts and fabric.I did find a few pictures ..>> --- On Mon, 1/9/12, Matthijs de Groot wrote:>
that would help a lot thanx.On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Frank Metcalfe wrote:> I have them ... I'll see if I can find them. We use cad drawing for > templetes to cut our parts. We were buliding 6 Piets so mass > production payed off . We printed them on lable paper and printed > them., Just cut them out and stick them to your metal and cut them > out. the process worked well. I did extend some of the fittings for > clearance for bolts and fabric.I did find a few pictures ..>> --- On Mon, 1/9/12, Matthijs de Groot wrote:>
RE: Pietenpol-List: Rib Jig idea?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Nothing wrong with purchasing components rather than building them. MikeCuy won a Lindy Award at OSH doing just that. His ribs were made by CharlieRubeck as well, and his fuselage was built in North Carolina. It's still"his" airplane.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Nothing wrong with purchasing components rather than building them. MikeCuy won a Lindy Award at OSH doing just that. His ribs were made by CharlieRubeck as well, and his fuselage was built in North Carolina. It's still"his" airplane.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
But it's not "An Aircraft" until it has an airworthiness certificate. Forall the FAA nows, it might be a planter box for a vegetable garden, thathappens to look like an airplane.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
But it's not "An Aircraft" until it has an airworthiness certificate. Forall the FAA nows, it might be a planter box for a vegetable garden, thathappens to look like an airplane.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: "Bryan Reed"
I have attached the letter I recently received with my N-number reservation. Theway I read it is I have the N-number reserved but I can send in a request (and$10) to the Civil Aviation Registry describing the aircraft by manufacturer,model and serial number and have it assigned to the aircraft. It does not mention "Airworthiness Certification". I am interpreting that tomean they will assign the N-number to the aircraft. You then, can send in the"Airworthiness certification" when you finish and and obtain it from your D.A.R. Please read the attached and let me know what your thoughts are. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
I have attached the letter I recently received with my N-number reservation. Theway I read it is I have the N-number reserved but I can send in a request (and$10) to the Civil Aviation Registry describing the aircraft by manufacturer,model and serial number and have it assigned to the aircraft. It does not mention "Airworthiness Certification". I am interpreting that tomean they will assign the N-number to the aircraft. You then, can send in the"Airworthiness certification" when you finish and and obtain it from your D.A.R. Please read the attached and let me know what your thoughts are. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Try again as the attachment didn't go out. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rese ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:27:44 -0800 (PST)
Try again as the attachment didn't go out. Bryan--------Working Piet N5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rese ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:27:44 -0800 (PST)
> Pietenpol-List: cad drawings for meatal fittings?
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
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