Original Posted By:> flight.jake(at)gmail.com
We used to call them trauma hawks when I was teaching. (Don't look back at the tail during a stall.) :0 My dergatory comment. =3B) Sorry=2C couldn't resesist. Please keep pics coming as I have decided on a steel fuse.Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
> Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube
Original Posted By: "Jack"
The Cutting oil is a great tip, Jake. I also use the HF notcher; I had to do someshimming initially to get the cutter axis and tube axis to line up. Findingsmaller cutters was a little difficult; I had to order 5/8 online. Home Depotdidn't have anything smaller than 3/4. I use a cheap end mill for 1/2.Mike HardawaySent from an Apple iThingie.On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metalhole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouthcuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 799#389799> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
The Cutting oil is a great tip, Jake. I also use the HF notcher; I had to do someshimming initially to get the cutter axis and tube axis to line up. Findingsmaller cutters was a little difficult; I had to order 5/8 online. Home Depotdidn't have anything smaller than 3/4. I use a cheap end mill for 1/2.Mike HardawaySent from an Apple iThingie.On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metalhole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouthcuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 799#389799> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the ANaluminum or steel fittings?Thanks,JackJack Textor________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the ANaluminum or steel fittings?Thanks,JackJack Textor________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Brass.Sent from my iPadOn Dec 4, 2012, at 7:33 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
Brass.Sent from my iPadOn Dec 4, 2012, at 7:33 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
The fittings should be matched to the fuel line materials. If you are usingaluminum tubing, use aluminum fittings. Be sure if using flared fittingsthat your flaring tool makes a 37=B0 aircraft flare, rather than the 45=B0 flareused in automotive applications. Flared fittings should not need anysealant. Pipe thread fittings, on the other hand, will leak without somekind of treatment of the threads. DO NOT USE Teflon or pipe dope ' they canget loose and clog your fuel system. The best stuff I=92ve found is calledSeal Lube. You can get it from ACS. A can is a lifetime supply.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/c ... ealube.php Good luck!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
The fittings should be matched to the fuel line materials. If you are usingaluminum tubing, use aluminum fittings. Be sure if using flared fittingsthat your flaring tool makes a 37=B0 aircraft flare, rather than the 45=B0 flareused in automotive applications. Flared fittings should not need anysealant. Pipe thread fittings, on the other hand, will leak without somekind of treatment of the threads. DO NOT USE Teflon or pipe dope ' they canget loose and clog your fuel system. The best stuff I=92ve found is calledSeal Lube. You can get it from ACS. A can is a lifetime supply.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/c ... ealube.php Good luck!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: AN pipe and flair fittings
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Jack,If you choose aluminum flared fittings, these seals work great. I replace these every time I disconnect/reconnect. No leaks!http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/se ... x=0&y=0Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Jack,If you choose aluminum flared fittings, these seals work great. I replace these every time I disconnect/reconnect. No leaks!http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/se ... x=0&y=0Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube
Original Posted By: Aircamperace(at)yahoo.com
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> m>> > Hello good Piet-ple=2C> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... > > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselage is on the plans) cut=2C fit=2C and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building=2C cutting=2C fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator=2C> Newport Way Air Museum (OK=2C it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 753#389753> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... ed_373.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_be ... de_685.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_ho ... ts_422.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_to ... ep_131.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg> > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tubePiet...
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> m>> > Hello good Piet-ple=2C> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... > > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselage is on the plans) cut=2C fit=2C and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building=2C cutting=2C fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator=2C> Newport Way Air Museum (OK=2C it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 753#389753> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... ed_373.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_be ... de_685.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_ho ... ts_422.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_to ... ep_131.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg> > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tubePiet...
