Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Smile Son. Never disconcert the masses.-doc-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Dec 3, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Amsafetyc wrote:> Sorry that wasn't meant for general distribution please disregard> > Thanks> > John> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Amsafetyc wrote:> >> Sorry for the low quality of this years rant just don't have it in me at the moment. Enthusiasm is low, holidays and still no job. Things are just not that great these days. All to say, sorry to disappoint ya on the buildapalooza rant>> >> I'll keep ya posted if anything changes. >> >> Be well>> >> John>> >> Sent from my iPho>> >> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:>> >>> John,>>> >>> I'm with you on working in the cold. By brain just shuts down and I find myself standing there just thinking about one thing.....getting warm. Hopefully the prop carving journey you will find to be very mind opening. This was the most satisfying part of the whole Piet building process for me for sure. I am not really an artist like some in this group, so for me it was really an accomplishment. I am sure you can do it. Good luck!!>>> >>> Dan Helsper>>> Puryear, TN>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> ot;">www.aeroelectric.com>> books.com"">www.buildersbooks.com>> quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> //forums.matronics.com>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Hello good Piet-ple,Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My processis to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselageis on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professionalcome for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building, cutting,fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up withmy lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside ofthe fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on aTomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flyingthat plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet.The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemedto adapt quite well (IMHO).The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontaltail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... __________
Hello good Piet-ple,Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My processis to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselageis on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professionalcome for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building, cutting,fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up withmy lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside ofthe fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on aTomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flyingthat plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet.The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemedto adapt quite well (IMHO).The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontaltail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Welcome Herb!Judging from your picture of the nice Mustang II, you are no doubt already familiarwith Tony Bingeliss books on construction and are well prepared to buildanother airplane. First piece of friendly advice is get a hold of a copy of TheGreat Waldo Pepper and watch it multiple times. This group has been able toglean most of lifes answers from that source and familiarity with it will greatlyincrease your understanding of answers and comments from them.Welcome aboard youre gonna love this!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Welcome Herb!Judging from your picture of the nice Mustang II, you are no doubt already familiarwith Tony Bingeliss books on construction and are well prepared to buildanother airplane. First piece of friendly advice is get a hold of a copy of TheGreat Waldo Pepper and watch it multiple times. This group has been able toglean most of lifes answers from that source and familiarity with it will greatlyincrease your understanding of answers and comments from them.Welcome aboard youre gonna love this!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Jake,As you modify the aft portion one suggestion I can offer is to consider some sortof handle back by the tail. It can be a short piece of tube, or streamlinedmaterial, but without it, the temptation will be to lift the tail by the horizontalstabilizer when moving on the ground. Just a thought.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Jake,As you modify the aft portion one suggestion I can offer is to consider some sortof handle back by the tail. It can be a short piece of tube, or streamlinedmaterial, but without it, the temptation will be to lift the tail by the horizontalstabilizer when moving on the ground. Just a thought.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Thanks Bill.... yes, I have already made the part (kind of a "u" shaped tube/hoop)that will be welded back by the tail (aka Piper Cub) but I want to have allthe cables and tail components in place before I determine the exact placement.I plan to only have one on the left side....Are you flying yet...!??!?--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Thanks Bill.... yes, I have already made the part (kind of a "u" shaped tube/hoop)that will be welded back by the tail (aka Piper Cub) but I want to have allthe cables and tail components in place before I determine the exact placement.I plan to only have one on the left side....Are you flying yet...!??!?--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "biplan53"
Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metalhole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouthcuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Heaven forbid but I use a Harbor Freight tubing notcher and really good bi-metalhole saws. I've probably used up a dozen or more bits making all the fish-mouthcuts so far. Works real well with Tap-a-matic cutting fluid in a spray bottle.....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Thanks guys! Using 3/8 aluminum so will go with aluminum. Boy that sealant is pricy but looks like a good option. The seals look good too. Planning a very simple system, even so, lots of parts and details!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Thanks guys! Using 3/8 aluminum so will go with aluminum. Boy that sealant is pricy but looks like a good option. The seals look good too. Planning a very simple system, even so, lots of parts and details!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 4, 2012, at 6:29 AM, "Jack" wrote:> Planning my fuels system (so many details-parts) is it best to use the AN aluminum or steel fittings?> > Thanks,> > Jack> > Jack Textor> > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
>> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> > com>>> > >> > Hello good Piet-ple,>> > >> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... >> > >> > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselage is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building, cutting, fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.>> > >> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.>> > >> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).>> > >> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.>> > >> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!>> > >> > -------->> > Jake Schultz - curator,>> > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here:>> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 753#389753>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Attachments: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... ed_373.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_be ... de_685.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_ho ... ts_422.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_to ... ep_131.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg>> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> ==================================>> ctric.com>> >www.buildersbooks.com>> uilthelp.com>> matronics.com/contribution>> ==================================>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==================================>> cs.com>> ==================================>> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
>> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> > com>>> > >> > Hello good Piet-ple,>> > >> > Just a quick update after a weekend of progress..... >> > >> > Mike from "Ready Weld" came by Friday and executed more of his magic. My process is to adapt the design (because so little detail for the steel-tube fuselage is on the plans) cut, fit, and prepare the parts. I then choose to have a professional come for the welding. In this way I can enjoy the building, cutting, fitting aspects of the project and don't run the risk of screwing things up with my lack of welding skills - just a choice of how I am doing things.>> > >> > This bellcrank assembly will allow the elevator cables to run on the outside of the fuselage for more of an olde-timey look.>> > >> > I adapted a step from a Piper Tomahawk on the left side. I learned to fly on a Tomahawk (insert derogatory/inflammatory comment here - too bad I LIKED flying that plane) so I wanted to include a piece of a Tomahawk somehow on my Piet. The step was the part I chose as I needed a step anyway and the part has seemed to adapt quite well (IMHO).>> > >> > The other area I had prepared was the aft fuselage and mounts for the horizontal tail. Mike did an especially nice welding job in this area.>> > >> > Having fun in my indoors/heated garage in rainy Seattle......!!>> > >> > -------->> > Jake Schultz - curator,>> > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here:>> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 753#389753>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Attachments: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_be ... ed_373.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_be ... de_685.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_ho ... ts_422.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_to ... ep_131.jpg>> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_step_163.jpg>> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> ==================================>> ctric.com>> >www.buildersbooks.com>> uilthelp.com>> matronics.com/contribution>> ==================================>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==================================>> cs.com>> ==================================>> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another day of welding progress on my steel-tube Piet...
