Original Posted By: "Charles Burkholder"
Guys: I cannot thank you enough, for all the comments; Boyce, where have you beenhiding? Get that darn MII done, before you know it, it will fly faster thanyou can think! I will begin the project in earnest sometime after the holidays; seems, Nancy hasa few 'honey-do this first', that need to be done. If my guess is right this group will prove to be just like the Mustang II buildersgroup, I had belonged to during my build and flight; a true asset to any project!Again, thanks, and Merry Christmas to all.HD Rose--------HD RoseRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Gardiner
Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who justgot my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, havinghelped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill.Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. Thebuilder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get ridof some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look atit? Any spot in particular? From what he told me he is a very expericenced planebuilder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advanceeveryone......Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:21:27 -0500
Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who justgot my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, havinghelped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill.Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. Thebuilder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get ridof some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look atit? Any spot in particular? From what he told me he is a very expericenced planebuilder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advanceeveryone......Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:21:27 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: "Gardiner"
I'm from Bancroft Ontario. About 3 hr north of Toronto. The plane is in Waterloo Ontario. Any builders closeby?----- Original Message -----
I'm from Bancroft Ontario. About 3 hr north of Toronto. The plane is in Waterloo Ontario. Any builders closeby?----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: "Gardiner"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......I'm from Bancroft Ontario. About 3 hr north of Toronto. The plane is in Waterloo Ontario. Any builders closeby?----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......I'm from Bancroft Ontario. About 3 hr north of Toronto. The plane is in Waterloo Ontario. Any builders closeby?----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Charles Burkholder
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......Charles, I'm in Burlington Ontario and Bill Church is in North Toronto. Contact me offlist and we can maybe arrange a visit. Scott Knowlton. -----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......Charles, I'm in Burlington Ontario and Bill Church is in North Toronto. Contact me offlist and we can maybe arrange a visit. Scott Knowlton. -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Mario Giacummo
charlessame goes for me , I live in waterloo and would be glad tohave a look and help out in any way I can. wayne________________________________________________________________________________
charlessame goes for me , I live in waterloo and would be glad tohave a look and help out in any way I can. wayne________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it,get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not...rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure therewill be someone near you thhat can help you.good lookMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder > born2fly(at)abcmailbox.net>>> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who> just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for> years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a> Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse> and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of> him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I> look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? From what he told> me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as> far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it,get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not...rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure therewill be someone near you thhat can help you.good lookMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder > born2fly(at)abcmailbox.net>>> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who> just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for> years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a> Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse> and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of> him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I> look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? From what he told> me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as> far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Jack
90 degrees is good!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Why not? Worked good for me.> > Gary> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:> >> >> Don't think I would have admitted to 2", but if it works....>> >> Gene>> >> On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Jack wrote:>> >>> >>> Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.>>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> Jack Textor>>> >>> On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:>>> >>>> >>>> Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?>>>> >>>> -------->>>> John Francis>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
90 degrees is good!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Why not? Worked good for me.> > Gary> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:> >> >> Don't think I would have admitted to 2", but if it works....>> >> Gene>> >> On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Jack wrote:>> >>> >>> Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.>>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> Jack Textor>>> >>> On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:>>> >>>> >>>> Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?>>>> >>>> -------->>>> John Francis>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: "Charles Burkholder"
It's great you will get some local help. To be honest I would make sure the work is good enough you will use it. I bought a project and only used the wheels after rebuilding them. Look at everything very close...type of wood, correct grain and orientation, glue joints, built to plans, 4130 metal, fittings well made, aircraft cable the correct size and fittings...lots of things to check!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> Charles,> > Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I was just about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to someday build that...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished that dream...> > I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you couldn't fix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to bring another experienced builder with you...besides the obvious advantage of getting some free help loading it. > > Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most committed, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let us know how it turns out. That project will have a special story, all its own.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> >> all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it, get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not... rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure there will be someone near you thhat can help you. >> >> good look>> >> Mario Giacummo>> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .>> >> >> >> 2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder mailbox.net>>>> >>> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? =46rom what he told me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here:>>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 261#390261>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==========>>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>>> le, List Admin.>>> ==========>>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>> ==========>>> http://forums.matronics.com>>> ==========>> >> >> >> ==================================>> ctric.com>> >www.buildersbooks.com>> uilthelp.com>> matronics.com/contribution>> ==================================>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==================================>> cs.com>> ==================================>> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
It's great you will get some local help. To be honest I would make sure the work is good enough you will use it. I bought a project and only used the wheels after rebuilding them. Look at everything very close...type of wood, correct grain and orientation, glue joints, built to plans, 4130 metal, fittings well made, aircraft cable the correct size and fittings...lots of things to check!Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> Charles,> > Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I was just about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to someday build that...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished that dream...> > I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you couldn't fix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to bring another experienced builder with you...besides the obvious advantage of getting some free help loading it. > > Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most committed, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let us know how it turns out. That project will have a special story, all its own.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> >> all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it, get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not... rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure there will be someone near you thhat can help you. >> >> good look>> >> Mario Giacummo>> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .>> >> >> >> 2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder mailbox.net>>>> >>> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? =46rom what he told me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here:>>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 261#390261>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==========>>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>>> le, List Admin.>>> ==========>>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>> ==========>>> http://forums.matronics.com>>> ==========>> >> >> >> ==================================>> ctric.com>> >www.buildersbooks.com>> uilthelp.com>> matronics.com/contribution>> ==================================>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==================================>> cs.com>> ==================================>> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: "wayne & cathy"
great between you and scott we should be all set to go........ I'll let you know a time and location soon.....Regards,Charles B----- Original Message -----
great between you and scott we should be all set to go........ I'll let you know a time and location soon.....Regards,Charles B----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Thanks for the input everyone. The seller (builder's son) seems sort of clueless as far as technical details go. He just wants to unload it. I'm going to go into this project with my eyes wide open with a previous builder along too.......For $300 it's still worth a look........ Will keep you posted on results....... ----- Original Message -----
Thanks for the input everyone. The seller (builder's son) seems sort of clueless as far as technical details go. He just wants to unload it. I'm going to go into this project with my eyes wide open with a previous builder along too.......For $300 it's still worth a look........ Will keep you posted on results....... ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Oscar,It is quite common for the float needle to stick on these engines. Before youspend too much time doing a bunch of trouble shooting, try this. Take a wood handledhammer and while using the butt end, give the carb a few good taps justabove where the mixture control is . That is where you will see the two half'sof the carb body. I'm sure that is all you will need to do. I see it happenall the time when an engine sits any length of time. My friend had to do thisevery time he flew. Of coarse he only flew a few times a year. Let me know how it goes,Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie with Piet questions......
Oscar,It is quite common for the float needle to stick on these engines. Before youspend too much time doing a bunch of trouble shooting, try this. Take a wood handledhammer and while using the butt end, give the carb a few good taps justabove where the mixture control is . That is where you will see the two half'sof the carb body. I'm sure that is all you will need to do. I see it happenall the time when an engine sits any length of time. My friend had to do thisevery time he flew. Of coarse he only flew a few times a year. Let me know how it goes,Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie with Piet questions......
Original Posted By: Andre Abreu
Hi Charles.Welcome to the group. I'm the guy that Scott mentioned. If our schedules can mesh,I'd be glad to offer any assistance I can. After building and studying theplans for about 8 years, one tends to get pretty familiar with the details.Feel free to contact me offlist when you have some details firmed up, or ifyou just have questions.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:03:52 -0800 (PST)
Hi Charles.Welcome to the group. I'm the guy that Scott mentioned. If our schedules can mesh,I'd be glad to offer any assistance I can. After building and studying theplans for about 8 years, one tends to get pretty familiar with the details.Feel free to contact me offlist when you have some details firmed up, or ifyou just have questions.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:03:52 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stromberg mixture
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Andy;If your Stromberg has the mixture adjustment parts installed, I would assume thatyou can adjust the mixture. Most of them have the mixture wired full richor have had the adjustment parts removed though.The operating manuals for many aircraft that had the mixture adjustment said notto adjust the mixture below about 5000 ft. There is some good technical informationavailable about the mixture control on these carbs, but I have forgottenwhere to find it. I just checked the Fly Baby site, but did not find it there.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:13:57 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stromberg mixture
Andy;If your Stromberg has the mixture adjustment parts installed, I would assume thatyou can adjust the mixture. Most of them have the mixture wired full richor have had the adjustment parts removed though.The operating manuals for many aircraft that had the mixture adjustment said notto adjust the mixture below about 5000 ft. There is some good technical informationavailable about the mixture control on these carbs, but I have forgottenwhere to find it. I just checked the Fly Baby site, but did not find it there.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:13:57 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stromberg mixture