Original Posted By: DOUGLAS BLACKBURN
Paul,First off, "center section fuel tank access door"? Are you talking about a doorto access the fuel tank, or the filler cap? Not sure why you would want either.If you need a removable cover plate, why not just fasten it with screws?I think the fasteners you're referring to are the type usually used for thingslike engine cowling panels, which require frequent removal and re-installation.Shouldn't need to access your fuel tank that often.Secondly, Dzus, Camlock and Southco aren't products, but rather lines of products,encompassing thousands of different parts. Are you referring to specificitems from each of the three suppliers? Which ones? And do you have a sketchof what you have in mind?Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: twinboom(at)msn.com
Hey Gents=2C The good news....Gary is picking up all the parts=2C and since he has completed one plane=2C I am sure he will get to his second one as well. Also=2C Carl Lekin saw my post about getting rid of what I ahve=2C and it looks as if we will be getting together someday to work on his Piet. He is still pluuging away at it. The internet can be a great place to find friends=2C and thanks for the space=2C I will be bugging off. Gary is coming by tomorrow eveing to pick up what I have. Talk to you all later=2C DougDoug/Elizabeth BlackburnYucaipa CaliforniaISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com
Hey Gents=2C The good news....Gary is picking up all the parts=2C and since he has completed one plane=2C I am sure he will get to his second one as well. Also=2C Carl Lekin saw my post about getting rid of what I ahve=2C and it looks as if we will be getting together someday to work on his Piet. He is still pluuging away at it. The internet can be a great place to find friends=2C and thanks for the space=2C I will be bugging off. Gary is coming by tomorrow eveing to pick up what I have. Talk to you all later=2C DougDoug/Elizabeth BlackburnYucaipa CaliforniaISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com
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Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
I can carry 22.5 gallons. I find it nice that I have a choice to carry the extragallons if needed. Sometime while making long cross countries there is nofuel available even though there is a place to land and stretch for awhile. Likebetween San Diego and Yuma. Worse yet, Yuma to Casa Grande. Very long legs.It is also nice that I can fly out 1.5 hours, have breakfast and return homewithout refueling. You can always carry less fuel if you don't need it forthe flight, but it is nice to have the choice. I have a 10 gallon nose tankand 12.5 in the center section. My 3 cents,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
I can carry 22.5 gallons. I find it nice that I have a choice to carry the extragallons if needed. Sometime while making long cross countries there is nofuel available even though there is a place to land and stretch for awhile. Likebetween San Diego and Yuma. Worse yet, Yuma to Casa Grande. Very long legs.It is also nice that I can fly out 1.5 hours, have breakfast and return homewithout refueling. You can always carry less fuel if you don't need it forthe flight, but it is nice to have the choice. I have a 10 gallon nose tankand 12.5 in the center section. My 3 cents,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Hi Paul - My 9.5-gallon-usable tank was too small - no room for contingencies.My backup was a small gas can secured in the front. Not the safest option. Having said that, when I flew the airplane 1.4 hours I was more then ready toget out. I had the correct range for my physical comfort, just no contingency.My new 15 gallon tank will give me 2.5 hours. That will be perfect. I'll stillwant to get out at 1.4 but we'll be able to handle headwinds.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:41:11 -0600
Hi Paul - My 9.5-gallon-usable tank was too small - no room for contingencies.My backup was a small gas can secured in the front. Not the safest option. Having said that, when I flew the airplane 1.4 hours I was more then ready toget out. I had the correct range for my physical comfort, just no contingency.My new 15 gallon tank will give me 2.5 hours. That will be perfect. I'll stillwant to get out at 1.4 but we'll be able to handle headwinds.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:41:11 -0600
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
I just built to the nearest inch...may not be a Piet after all... Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 15, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:> > > > On 01/15/2013 08:02 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:>> Perform a scarf joint to recoup a 1/2" at the end of the spar? There's>> education, and there's pedantism....> > > But, but, but... it won't have a 29'6" wing! Clearly it won't be a> Pietenpol Air Camper(tm)!> > > > But, in the spirit of education, yes, this is a great opportunity to> talk about, and even perform a scarf joint *on another piece of wood.*> In fact, cut two pieces of wood the same length from the same board.> Create a scarf joint in one and leave the other uncut. Then perform> some destructive testing on each one and compare the results. Then> consider how much time and effort it took to perform the scarf joint and> really drive home how much time would have been wasted if they had to do> the same thing on their spar. *That's* education!> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:48:02 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
I just built to the nearest inch...may not be a Piet after all... Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 15, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:> > > > On 01/15/2013 08:02 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:>> Perform a scarf joint to recoup a 1/2" at the end of the spar? There's>> education, and there's pedantism....> > > But, but, but... it won't have a 29'6" wing! Clearly it won't be a> Pietenpol Air Camper(tm)!> > > > But, in the spirit of education, yes, this is a great opportunity to> talk about, and even perform a scarf joint *on another piece of wood.*> In fact, cut two pieces of wood the same length from the same board.> Create a scarf joint in one and leave the other uncut. Then perform> some destructive testing on each one and compare the results. Then> consider how much time and effort it took to perform the scarf joint and> really drive home how much time would have been wasted if they had to do> the same thing on their spar. *That's* education!> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:48:02 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
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Original Posted By: dewey davenport
Paul,I'm going to go out on a limb here, and answer for Kevin (based on what he justwrote).15 gallons gives 2.5 hours (plus 1/2 hour reserve) = 15 /3.0 = 5gph9.5 gallons gives 1.4 hours (plus 1/2 hour reserve) = 9.5/1.9 = 5 gph.I'd hazard a guess of about 5 gph. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:41:31 -0800 (PST)
Paul,I'm going to go out on a limb here, and answer for Kevin (based on what he justwrote).15 gallons gives 2.5 hours (plus 1/2 hour reserve) = 15 /3.0 = 5gph9.5 gallons gives 1.4 hours (plus 1/2 hour reserve) = 9.5/1.9 = 5 gph.I'd hazard a guess of about 5 gph. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:41:31 -0800 (PST)
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Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
I didn't include the reserve, Bill. 2.5 it burnout. I plan for 6 gph. Usuallydo a little better than that.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I didn't include the reserve, Bill. 2.5 it burnout. I plan for 6 gph. Usuallydo a little better than that.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dzus , camlock, or southco
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
1/2 lb per horsepower per hour is the standardfor our engines, give or take a bit. Also that'son the horsepower actualy being produced atany given time.ClifI have a question. How come beer goes throughyou so fast?----- Original Message -----
1/2 lb per horsepower per hour is the standardfor our engines, give or take a bit. Also that'son the horsepower actualy being produced atany given time.ClifI have a question. How come beer goes throughyou so fast?----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: George Abernathy