Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs> > Mike,> > I couldn't agree more. The key to a good performing Piet is the old saying "simplicateand add lightness". The Piet is very affected > by excess weight. Not only does extra weight hurt the climb, it > also makes it more sluggish in the air at cruise speeds. It also > raises the landing speed, which creates more stress on the gear > because it is going faster with more weight. The airplane was > designed to be simple and light. If you are still building, try > really hard to resist the urge to add this and that. Try to keep > it the simple and basic machine it was meant to be. Okay.... I'll > quit now. > > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 101#393101> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs>> Mike,>> I couldn't agree more. The key to a good performing Piet is the old > saying "simplicate and add lightness". The Piet is very affected> by excess weight. Not only does extra weight hurt the climb, it> also makes it more sluggish in the air at cruise speeds. It also> raises the landing speed, which creates more stress on the gear> because it is going faster with more weight. The airplane was> designed to be simple and light. If you are still building, try> really hard to resist the urge to add this and that. Try to keep> it the simple and basic machine it was meant to be. Okay.... I'll> quit now. >> Don Emch> NX899DE>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 1>>-----No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com________________________________________________________________________________
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs> > Thanks Steve. Didn't know there was such a word. I was going by the officialuse of "simplicate" in the old Buckeye Pietenpol > Association Newsletter. > > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 104#393104> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: chicken and ribsI don't know about you guys but I was astounded with how incredibly well my Pietwould climb when the engine was new forthe first couple of years. Incredible performer really on only a 65 horse engineand the Piet airfoil. I'm really glad to see thisnews from PF develop so future builders can have a better set of knowledge whenchoosing which wing they want to use. I know one thing, keep the empty weight in the 630-660 range and you'll have agood performer with a fresh 65 Continental. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
S, when you hit the one on the left, you leave the thread, along with a large groupof us who are scratching our heads wondering what this "new post" means.The button to the right, however, allows you to reply, which maintains the integrity- so to speak- of the original thread.If your intent is to form a new thread, which is great, by all means do so, butit would be nicer to the vast majority of us if your REPLIES to a thread weredone via the Reply button.Just sayin'--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
Mike,I couldn't agree more. The key to a good performing Piet is the old saying "simplicateand add lightness". The Piet is very affected by excess weight. Notonly does extra weight hurt the climb, it also makes it more sluggish in theair at cruise speeds. It also raises the landing speed, which creates more stresson the gear because it is going faster with more weight. The airplane wasdesigned to be simple and light. If you are still building, try really hardto resist the urge to add this and that. Try to keep it the simple and basicmachine it was meant to be. Okay.... I'll quit now. :-)Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Original Posted By: Don Emch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribsDon, Sorry but the term in "Simplificate and add lightness."Steve "POEM associate member" D----- Original Message -----
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
Thanks Steve. Didn't know there was such a word. I was going by the officialuse of "simplicate" in the old Buckeye Pietenpol Association Newsletter. :-)Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Original Posted By: Don Emch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribsI am also resurrecting YE OLDE TEXIAN WORD Arriven. For example a text could read "Flight was great, we have arriven at Broadhead."Blue Skies,Steve DFounding member of the Society to stamp out and abolish redundant redundancies,Association. ----- Original Message -----
Original Posted By: Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB
I have a copy of "The Speed Seekers" by Thomas G. Foxworth . On Page 83 there is a bit on William B. Stout, designer of the Ford Tri-Motor transports. I quote exactly: "His lifelong doctrine was 'simplicate and add lightness.'" So we can assume that he coined the expression, and it certainly holds true even today.Cheers,Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly, snowy Alberta, Canada)-----Original Message-----
Original Posted By: Bill Church
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribsIrregardless Bill, I will Endeavor to persevere in pushing my spelling. I willpursue it ;until it has reached leveliddity with the other word in use. One of my favorite terms in aviation is "Cheap, fast, or efficient! pick two!"That points to the "envelope" and the only way to truly expand the envelope isto put money in it. Blue "Simplified" Skies,Steve D----- Original Message -----
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
sorry for the late reply(in Germany)....Yes.. "Airnut" ....in my time it was under the old name, but I understand it asAirnet now.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs
Original Posted By:> Bill Church
Since you corrected B Church, I have to point out "irregardless"! is not a word.It is "regardless"GeneOn Jan 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > Irregardless Bill, I will Endeavor to persevere in pushing my spelling. I willpursue it ;until it has reached leveliddity with the other word in use. > > One of my favorite terms in aviation is "Cheap, fast, or efficient! pick two!"That points to the "envelope" and the only way to truly expand the envelopeis to put money in it. > > Blue "Simplified" Skies,> Steve D> > ----- Original Message -----
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Actually I've always preferred "Disirregardless" it just sort of sums itup.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > >> >> The quote that I've seen is "Simplicate and add lightness", and is attributedto William Stout, designer of the Ford Trimotor.>> >>> From Wikipedia (so it must be true ):>> >> Stout is remembered for his Farberistic engineering credo, "Simplicate and addmore lightness." This would later become best known as the adopted >> maxim of Colin Chapman of Lotus Cars. It actually originated with >> Stout's designer Gordon Hooton.>> >> In the spirit of the quote, "simplicate" makes more sense than >> "simplificate", if for no reason other than it has one syllable less.>> >> Bill C.>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 107#393107> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 101#393101> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs