Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
Post some pictures! I would love to see it--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
It starting to come together!--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... __________
It starting to come together!--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: Jack
What did he use for the TE?Ray KrauseSkyScoutSent from my iPadOn Feb 8, 2013, at 6:21 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" wrote:> I have to say I visited Mike P=99s project a few times during these past 4 years or so and his trailing edge> could cut thru a pillar of concrete if you hit is just right. Light and strong. There won=99t be any hangar rash or> dents in the back of his TE. I wouldn=99t want to bang my head into that walking around the hangar or doing> a preflight: )!> > Mike C.> > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Some decals went on today!
What did he use for the TE?Ray KrauseSkyScoutSent from my iPadOn Feb 8, 2013, at 6:21 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" wrote:> I have to say I visited Mike P=99s project a few times during these past 4 years or so and his trailing edge> could cut thru a pillar of concrete if you hit is just right. Light and strong. There won=99t be any hangar rash or> dents in the back of his TE. I wouldn=99t want to bang my head into that walking around the hangar or doing> a preflight: )!> > Mike C.> > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Thanks BenI am about 6ft 1 and 190 lbs or so, so may be looking for a stretched fuse. I needto find a PIet I can sit in to make sure I do fit. Looking at Bill Reweysor maybe another one I saw. I have tons of questions of course. Thanks for you'rereply.Jeff GabrielsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Thanks BenI am about 6ft 1 and 190 lbs or so, so may be looking for a stretched fuse. I needto find a PIet I can sit in to make sure I do fit. Looking at Bill Reweysor maybe another one I saw. I have tons of questions of course. Thanks for you'rereply.Jeff GabrielsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Looks nice! Looking a bit beyond the olive drab... what is the OTHER spoked rim attached to?Hmmmm--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:57:18 -0800 (PST)
Looks nice! Looking a bit beyond the olive drab... what is the OTHER spoked rim attached to?Hmmmm--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:57:18 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Sounds like a fun project... neat that is has changed hands several times but neverleft home. Good Luck with that!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Sounds like a fun project... neat that is has changed hands several times but neverleft home. Good Luck with that!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
That'll look really neat. Demo it to the Army Air Corp when done. They may justput in an order for a fleet of them for recon work over Afghanistan. Senate shouldapprove them, since they're budget friendly.LarryN2308CRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
That'll look really neat. Demo it to the Army Air Corp when done. They may justput in an order for a fleet of them for recon work over Afghanistan. Senate shouldapprove them, since they're budget friendly.LarryN2308CRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is using?Dennis________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is using?Dennis________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Calibrated eyeball. Level the tube length with the table. Sight from the end (looking into the streamline) to make sure going through tube in proper plane. Bushing going in anyway, right? Can be a little off but make sure bushing is square before welding. GeneOn Feb 9, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" wrote:> I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is using?> Dennis> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
Calibrated eyeball. Level the tube length with the table. Sight from the end (looking into the streamline) to make sure going through tube in proper plane. Bushing going in anyway, right? Can be a little off but make sure bushing is square before welding. GeneOn Feb 9, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" wrote:> I am trying to figure out how to drill the cabanne struts, but drawing a blank. If the stuff was round then a vee block would hold it, but streamlined tubing doesn=99t work in a v shape. Holes need to be on the same plane lengthwise and also not drilled twisted if you understand what I mean. What is the secret method everyone else is using?> Dennis> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
Shoot.... I was afraid of that. Being really nearsighted, I mean coke bottle glasses nearsighted, my calibration is not precise. Get what you mean with the bushing though, dremel tool being my buddy almost as much as my Fein tool.Dennis
Shoot.... I was afraid of that. Being really nearsighted, I mean coke bottle glasses nearsighted, my calibration is not precise. Get what you mean with the bushing though, dremel tool being my buddy almost as much as my Fein tool.Dennis
Pietenpol-List: Re: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
I mark where I need the hole on both sides. I make saddles to hold the stock onthe bandsaw. I drill each side separately, undersized. I assemble the wholemess, step drill closer, then ream to fit.Important to have a really sharp self centering drill bit (I sharpen my own usinga 4 facet method), but off the shelf chisel points work pretty well too.High speed generally works better in thin metal as well to prevent wandering.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I mark where I need the hole on both sides. I make saddles to hold the stock onthe bandsaw. I drill each side separately, undersized. I assemble the wholemess, step drill closer, then ream to fit.Important to have a really sharp self centering drill bit (I sharpen my own usinga 4 facet method), but off the shelf chisel points work pretty well too.High speed generally works better in thin metal as well to prevent wandering.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: Dennis Engelkenjohn
Hi Dennis,Gene gave you the quick and sensible method, here is my "do everything the hardestpossible way method".Make a cardboard cutout profile of the streamlined tube from leading edge to maxof the minor dimension, use this to mark the same spot on each end. Cut a woodprofile from mid LE to mid TE, use this as a saddle when you drill the holeat each end. And after you weld the first bushing, stick a rod or bolt in itto use as a site when you weld in the other end.Skip----- Original Message -----
Hi Dennis,Gene gave you the quick and sensible method, here is my "do everything the hardestpossible way method".Make a cardboard cutout profile of the streamlined tube from leading edge to maxof the minor dimension, use this to mark the same spot on each end. Cut a woodprofile from mid LE to mid TE, use this as a saddle when you drill the holeat each end. And after you weld the first bushing, stick a rod or bolt in itto use as a site when you weld in the other end.Skip----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: JOSEPH SWITHIN
Pietenpol-List: Re: landing gear questions
Original Posted By: "tools"
I think Markle is selling them. [Laughing]--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing gear questions
I think Markle is selling them. [Laughing]--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing GearRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing gear questions
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Contact Doc Mosher, sure he's got them as well. Not sure if he's also got allthe OLD ones, I bought ALL of them from day 1 until the mid '90s (Frank P andGrant M days) and have them here if you just can't find them. Pretty sure they'reavailable though.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Contact Doc Mosher, sure he's got them as well. Not sure if he's also got allthe OLD ones, I bought ALL of them from day 1 until the mid '90s (Frank P andGrant M days) and have them here if you just can't find them. Pretty sure they'reavailable though.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Thanks for the help guys! I was thinking about Skips method but was hoping someone had an easy to make jig or fixture. That=99s what will probably go with.Dennis________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Thanks for the help guys! I was thinking about Skips method but was hoping someone had an easy to make jig or fixture. That=99s what will probably go with.Dennis________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Chris"
Where did you get/order the decals?--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Where did you get/order the decals?--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: drilling streamling tubing
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
DennisI just got finished fabricating my cabanne struts. Attached are pictures ofthe jig I used to hold the struts for drilling. Worked great for me. Problem was my drill press holes and my holes in the lower fittings were notperfectly aligned. My cabannes were not vertical when I bolted them in. Tofix it I ended up remaking the inner lower fittings and used the cabanne asa drill guide while holding the cabanne vertical. Alternatively, what I didfor the upper bolt holes was to drill one side the correct size and one justslightly larger. Then I tacked the bushing into the cabanne holes on thetight fitting side and check its fit into the upper wing fitting. If itneeded adjustment, and they all did, I was able to move it around with alight blow from a hammer. When I had it where I wanted it I tacked it onthe other side, and checked its fit. When I was happy I completed thewelding. Took a long time waiting for it to cool between fitting but itworked.ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com _____
DennisI just got finished fabricating my cabanne struts. Attached are pictures ofthe jig I used to hold the struts for drilling. Worked great for me. Problem was my drill press holes and my holes in the lower fittings were notperfectly aligned. My cabannes were not vertical when I bolted them in. Tofix it I ended up remaking the inner lower fittings and used the cabanne asa drill guide while holding the cabanne vertical. Alternatively, what I didfor the upper bolt holes was to drill one side the correct size and one justslightly larger. Then I tacked the bushing into the cabanne holes on thetight fitting side and check its fit into the upper wing fitting. If itneeded adjustment, and they all did, I was able to move it around with alight blow from a hammer. When I had it where I wanted it I tacked it onthe other side, and checked its fit. When I was happy I completed thewelding. Took a long time waiting for it to cool between fitting but itworked.ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Dennis, I have a video clip, (for an upcoming HINT Video) -that may help you with the drilling.- This clip is is under 3 min. long. If interested, I can email it to you.-What I used was a vice with a "V" groove in it. This will hold the strut on the same plane as the drill press/mill table. (Parallel)- If the press/mill is set up correctly, the strut/vice and drill bit/chuck will be perpendicular to each other.- At this point you only need to get the angle of the strut in the vice correct. (Think angle of attack.) If you hold the drill bit in the drill, chuck-and lower it down over the end of the strut, you can eyeball the drill bit to the strut to get your 90 deg. Again, adjusting the "angle of attack" of the strut to get 90 deg. to the drill bit.-You can also buy "V" groove inserts for vices that do not have them built in.-Michael PerezPietenpol HINT VideosKaretaker Aerowww.karetakeraero.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Dennis, I have a video clip, (for an upcoming HINT Video) -that may help you with the drilling.- This clip is is under 3 min. long. If interested, I can email it to you.-What I used was a vice with a "V" groove in it. This will hold the strut on the same plane as the drill press/mill table. (Parallel)- If the press/mill is set up correctly, the strut/vice and drill bit/chuck will be perpendicular to each other.- At this point you only need to get the angle of the strut in the vice correct. (Think angle of attack.) If you hold the drill bit in the drill, chuck-and lower it down over the end of the strut, you can eyeball the drill bit to the strut to get your 90 deg. Again, adjusting the "angle of attack" of the strut to get 90 deg. to the drill bit.-You can also buy "V" groove inserts for vices that do not have them built in.-Michael PerezPietenpol HINT VideosKaretaker Aerowww.karetakeraero.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
Here is some more information on the Jack Reber Pietenpol's that are now for sale in central Indiana. The message below was written by Alan Reber, Jack's nephew. Alan has a Tiger Moth and a nice Interstate Cadet he usually flies up to Brodhead for the fall MAAC fly in. These are nice airplanes and the Scout has a fresh Model B engine.-john-> To all in Chapter 226> Hey guys,> > Jeff Moore posted some basic information about the availability for sale of my uncle's aeroplanes after I talked to several of you at the Wednesday Nighters this last week. Since yesterday I've received two phone calls and six e-mails inquiring as to the price, etc., of both the Scout and the Aircamper so there seems to be some real interest and I haven't even tried to advertise the sale yet. Some of the e-mails have come from people I don't know so I can't say if they are just tire kickers or if they have a real desire to buy, but its obvious that people are interested. I've talked to several knowledgeable people and I've gotten practically the exact same advice from all as to the value of the aeroplanes. I plan on asking $11000 for the Scout (this is on the advice of John Hofmann who says that the freshly overhauled Model B engine is a real plus) and $16000 for the Aircamper. Of course the actual sale price will depend on the real demand (i.e. who's willing to write a check and for how much) but I'll be up-front about the terms and conditions.> > First, let me say that, through my cousin Phil Reber (uncle Jack's middle son and owner of Merit Tool--uncle's former business) who is my aunt's official representative, I've been given full power to negotiate the sale of both aircraft. That said, my first concern is to sell these birds to my aunt's best advantage. I have no personal agenda other than to see that she is properly advised and represented. > > Second, these aircraft will be sold on a good faith basis in an "as is" condition with no on-going responsibility, i.e. no written or implied guarantees or warranties. These are home-built aircraft and all who would buy such will understand this.> > Third, before the sale of either or both aircraft they will be given a condition inspection and signed-of accordingly. This means that the Scout will have the engine installed before sale (unless the buyer expressly desires to do the installation himself) and both aircraft will be in a 'fly-away' condition. Terms concerning the delivery of the aircraft can be negotiated (I would be willing to ferry the aircraft a reasonable distance to the new owner subject to my work schedules and weather--read temperature!!). With this in mind I need volunteers to do the engine installation and sign-off the condition inspections. See below.> > Notwithstanding the conditions above, I do have a personal interest in keeping one or both of the Piets locally (the Muncie, Anderson, Pendleton, Indy area) if possible and would be willing to form a syndicate to keep them here. In other words, I might be willing to form a partnership with some like-minded guys to own the ONE of the the birds. If I do this it would mean a partnership with each shareholder owning an equal part of the aeroplane and sharing the fixed costs. I would insist on having at least a liability insurance policy covering each owner. Haul coverage would be by mutual consent. If there was no haul coverage, that would mean that if you break it, you just bought-out all of the other partners. We would also share in the maintenance of the aircraft. Ideally the machine would be located on a suitable grass strip in, of course, a hangar. If we have three, four or five partners no one will have that much in it and it would be "cheap" flying (I know--an oxymoron) and would, I think, be a lot of fun. The above is food for thought. If anyone is seriously interested please let me know as soon as possible.> > Another route to keeping one of the Piets locally would be to have it as a 'Chapter' aeroplane. The same conditions as above would apply, there would just be more owners.> > In either case, IF THERE IS A REAL INTEREST, please let me know as soon as possible as I'm bound by my responsibility to Aunt Janelle to move these aeroplanes in a reasonable period of time. She is not distressed (i.e. she isn't desperate for the money) but there is no interest in letting the aeroplanes sit around waiting for the buyer to make up their mind.> > Feel free to call me on my cell (317-694-5339) or e-mail me at cadetmoth2(at)yahoo.com anytime.> > Thanks guys for all of your help and support.> > Alan Reber> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Here is some more information on the Jack Reber Pietenpol's that are now for sale in central Indiana. The message below was written by Alan Reber, Jack's nephew. Alan has a Tiger Moth and a nice Interstate Cadet he usually flies up to Brodhead for the fall MAAC fly in. These are nice airplanes and the Scout has a fresh Model B engine.-john-> To all in Chapter 226> Hey guys,> > Jeff Moore posted some basic information about the availability for sale of my uncle's aeroplanes after I talked to several of you at the Wednesday Nighters this last week. Since yesterday I've received two phone calls and six e-mails inquiring as to the price, etc., of both the Scout and the Aircamper so there seems to be some real interest and I haven't even tried to advertise the sale yet. Some of the e-mails have come from people I don't know so I can't say if they are just tire kickers or if they have a real desire to buy, but its obvious that people are interested. I've talked to several knowledgeable people and I've gotten practically the exact same advice from all as to the value of the aeroplanes. I plan on asking $11000 for the Scout (this is on the advice of John Hofmann who says that the freshly overhauled Model B engine is a real plus) and $16000 for the Aircamper. Of course the actual sale price will depend on the real demand (i.e. who's willing to write a check and for how much) but I'll be up-front about the terms and conditions.> > First, let me say that, through my cousin Phil Reber (uncle Jack's middle son and owner of Merit Tool--uncle's former business) who is my aunt's official representative, I've been given full power to negotiate the sale of both aircraft. That said, my first concern is to sell these birds to my aunt's best advantage. I have no personal agenda other than to see that she is properly advised and represented. > > Second, these aircraft will be sold on a good faith basis in an "as is" condition with no on-going responsibility, i.e. no written or implied guarantees or warranties. These are home-built aircraft and all who would buy such will understand this.> > Third, before the sale of either or both aircraft they will be given a condition inspection and signed-of accordingly. This means that the Scout will have the engine installed before sale (unless the buyer expressly desires to do the installation himself) and both aircraft will be in a 'fly-away' condition. Terms concerning the delivery of the aircraft can be negotiated (I would be willing to ferry the aircraft a reasonable distance to the new owner subject to my work schedules and weather--read temperature!!). With this in mind I need volunteers to do the engine installation and sign-off the condition inspections. See below.> > Notwithstanding the conditions above, I do have a personal interest in keeping one or both of the Piets locally (the Muncie, Anderson, Pendleton, Indy area) if possible and would be willing to form a syndicate to keep them here. In other words, I might be willing to form a partnership with some like-minded guys to own the ONE of the the birds. If I do this it would mean a partnership with each shareholder owning an equal part of the aeroplane and sharing the fixed costs. I would insist on having at least a liability insurance policy covering each owner. Haul coverage would be by mutual consent. If there was no haul coverage, that would mean that if you break it, you just bought-out all of the other partners. We would also share in the maintenance of the aircraft. Ideally the machine would be located on a suitable grass strip in, of course, a hangar. If we have three, four or five partners no one will have that much in it and it would be "cheap" flying (I know--an oxymoron) and would, I think, be a lot of fun. The above is food for thought. If anyone is seriously interested please let me know as soon as possible.> > Another route to keeping one of the Piets locally would be to have it as a 'Chapter' aeroplane. The same conditions as above would apply, there would just be more owners.> > In either case, IF THERE IS A REAL INTEREST, please let me know as soon as possible as I'm bound by my responsibility to Aunt Janelle to move these aeroplanes in a reasonable period of time. She is not distressed (i.e. she isn't desperate for the money) but there is no interest in letting the aeroplanes sit around waiting for the buyer to make up their mind.> > Feel free to call me on my cell (317-694-5339) or e-mail me at cadetmoth2(at)yahoo.com anytime.> > Thanks guys for all of your help and support.> > Alan Reber> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
jarheadpilot82 wrote:> Where did you get/order the decals?I had them made at a local sign shop.... I gave them a picture of it and they scannedit.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
jarheadpilot82 wrote:> Where did you get/order the decals?I had them made at a local sign shop.... I gave them a picture of it and they scannedit.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
K5YAC wrote:> Looks nice! > > Looking a bit beyond the olive drab... what is the OTHER spoked rim attachedto? HmmmmThat's a motorcycle project on hold until the Piet is done....--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
K5YAC wrote:> Looks nice! > > Looking a bit beyond the olive drab... what is the OTHER spoked rim attachedto? HmmmmThat's a motorcycle project on hold until the Piet is done....--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
[quote="jack(at)textors.com"]Chris it looks great except the color
you beatme!I think another with olive drab would be cool! We can fly in formation and haveour own squadron.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
[quote="jack(at)textors.com"]Chris it looks great except the color
you beatme!I think another with olive drab would be cool! We can fly in formation and haveour own squadron.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Hang in there Matthew. My first takeoffs in the 140 (taildragger) were horrible,going from one side of the runway to the other, with my instructor correctingand giving it back to me.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Feb 10, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Matthew wrote:> > Sounds like you are doing just fine John, and it also sounds like you have apretty good instructor, who did you end up with? I'm looking to start there nextsemester.> > > > Sent from my iPhone> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:53 AM, "John Francis" wrote:> >> >> As some of you know, part of my Piet build program is learning to fly. An opportunityarose and I started learning to fly under part 141 with a local communitycollege. >> >> >> >> Pilot training in a Cessna 172>> >> I had two more flying lessons this week. My original feeling of being overwhelmedhas been replaced with frustration. It takes me a few hours after eachlesson to think about what happened and why. I'm getting upset at myself fornot getting everything quickly. I think we all hope when we start somethinglike this that we are going to be "naturals" and it will come to us quickly. My instructor tells me I'm doing fine but I have my doubts.>> >> The bad stuff:>> >> 1. Although my taxiing has improved I still over-steer and use brakes for steeringtoo often.>> 2. The throttle control is still foreign to me and sometimes I push insteadof pull and vice-versa.>> 3. I don't use enough rudder and my instructor wants me to get used to thisas he knows I will be flying a Pietenpol some day.>> 4. My instructor covers up important gauges like the airspeed indicator on takeoff as he wants me to "feel" when the plane is ready to fly. I feel nothing.>> 5. My transition and entry into the traffic pattern stinks as I seem to be verybusy watching altitude, speed, flaps, traffic and everything else my instructoris saying in my headset.>> 6. My landings suck. I bounced it yesterday and missed the centerline.>> >> The good stuff:>> >> 1. Instructor says I'm fine.>> 2. Flying does not scare me or am I nervous when in the plane.>> 3. He trusted me with the preflight yesterday.>> 4. If pushed I believe I could do everything but land. (He's says I could landif he passed out and we would walk away from it.) >> 5. I've only had three lessons, three landings, and logged 2.6 hours of flightinstruction.>> >> John>> >> -------->> John Francis>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 959#393959> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Hang in there Matthew. My first takeoffs in the 140 (taildragger) were horrible,going from one side of the runway to the other, with my instructor correctingand giving it back to me.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Feb 10, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Matthew wrote:> > Sounds like you are doing just fine John, and it also sounds like you have apretty good instructor, who did you end up with? I'm looking to start there nextsemester.> > > > Sent from my iPhone> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:53 AM, "John Francis" wrote:> >> >> As some of you know, part of my Piet build program is learning to fly. An opportunityarose and I started learning to fly under part 141 with a local communitycollege. >> >> >> >> Pilot training in a Cessna 172>> >> I had two more flying lessons this week. My original feeling of being overwhelmedhas been replaced with frustration. It takes me a few hours after eachlesson to think about what happened and why. I'm getting upset at myself fornot getting everything quickly. I think we all hope when we start somethinglike this that we are going to be "naturals" and it will come to us quickly. My instructor tells me I'm doing fine but I have my doubts.>> >> The bad stuff:>> >> 1. Although my taxiing has improved I still over-steer and use brakes for steeringtoo often.>> 2. The throttle control is still foreign to me and sometimes I push insteadof pull and vice-versa.>> 3. I don't use enough rudder and my instructor wants me to get used to thisas he knows I will be flying a Pietenpol some day.>> 4. My instructor covers up important gauges like the airspeed indicator on takeoff as he wants me to "feel" when the plane is ready to fly. I feel nothing.>> 5. My transition and entry into the traffic pattern stinks as I seem to be verybusy watching altitude, speed, flaps, traffic and everything else my instructoris saying in my headset.>> 6. My landings suck. I bounced it yesterday and missed the centerline.>> >> The good stuff:>> >> 1. Instructor says I'm fine.>> 2. Flying does not scare me or am I nervous when in the plane.>> 3. He trusted me with the preflight yesterday.>> 4. If pushed I believe I could do everything but land. (He's says I could landif he passed out and we would walk away from it.) >> 5. I've only had three lessons, three landings, and logged 2.6 hours of flightinstruction.>> >> John>> >> -------->> John Francis>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 959#393959> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
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Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying Lessons Continue> > John,> > Congratulations on your initial flights. I guarantee that if you were below thenorm (what the average student pilot was doing at that phase), you > would be having different conversations with your CFI.> > Enjoy the journey. Take it one step at a time, and celebrate the > small victories. This is an economic issue, but fly as often as > you can afford. It will make the learning easier and the > relearning (reinventing the wheel, I call it) less. > > We should not take the place of your CFI, but if I can help, let > me know, and I am sure the other pilots (especially CFIs) on this > forum feel the same way. > > Continue to share with all of us.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 010#394010> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying Lessons Continue> > John,> > Congratulations on your initial flights. I guarantee that if you were below thenorm (what the average student pilot was doing at that phase), you > would be having different conversations with your CFI.> > Enjoy the journey. Take it one step at a time, and celebrate the > small victories. This is an economic issue, but fly as often as > you can afford. It will make the learning easier and the > relearning (reinventing the wheel, I call it) less. > > We should not take the place of your CFI, but if I can help, let > me know, and I am sure the other pilots (especially CFIs) on this > forum feel the same way. > > Continue to share with all of us.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 010#394010> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I thought about closing up the front hole and mounting my dummy machine guns forthe full effect (during cold months). I will never quite feel like I'm partof the "warbird community" until I get a set of those decals on the wings...LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dumm ... __________
I thought about closing up the front hole and mounting my dummy machine guns forthe full effect (during cold months). I will never quite feel like I'm partof the "warbird community" until I get a set of those decals on the wings...LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dumm ... __________
Original Posted By: Gardiner
No. I built them off of full scale Fokker plans, except I scaled them down to 75%,then hung them above my home theatre door. They've been there for a decade.The gun butts I made from 2x6 wood from home depot. I never did put the gunsites on them yet. They decorate the hangar for now..lerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:41:06 -0500
No. I built them off of full scale Fokker plans, except I scaled them down to 75%,then hung them above my home theatre door. They've been there for a decade.The gun butts I made from 2x6 wood from home depot. I never did put the gunsites on them yet. They decorate the hangar for now..lerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:41:06 -0500
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Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: lefty rightyWhat's funny is that 90% of us learned to fly with our left hand in a yoked airplane yet 90% of us are probablyright handed so we started right off the bat flying with the hand we're not dominant in yet did well. I flew lefthanded for 10 years and when we bought a Champ going to the right hand was literally a no brainer and no matterwhat hand you choose to fly with a stick in an airplane feels 100% more natural than a yoke. (least to me anyway).The first few hours of flying lessons can be overwhelming with all that is going on that we're not used to. Some greatadvice given John. Give yourself time. And as others have said, 40 hours for a private is the FAA minimum. Feware ready for the private checkride at 40 hours or they don't have all the night or cross country time required yet.Mark Chouinard made a great point in that he too his checkride with many hours compared to his buddy but his buddywishes he would have had more time, not just the minimum. I soloed pretty quickly at 5 hours but it took me 80 beforemy instructor (he wasn't in the Navy) signed me off for my checkride.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Subject: Pietenpol-List: lefty rightyWhat's funny is that 90% of us learned to fly with our left hand in a yoked airplane yet 90% of us are probablyright handed so we started right off the bat flying with the hand we're not dominant in yet did well. I flew lefthanded for 10 years and when we bought a Champ going to the right hand was literally a no brainer and no matterwhat hand you choose to fly with a stick in an airplane feels 100% more natural than a yoke. (least to me anyway).The first few hours of flying lessons can be overwhelming with all that is going on that we're not used to. Some greatadvice given John. Give yourself time. And as others have said, 40 hours for a private is the FAA minimum. Feware ready for the private checkride at 40 hours or they don't have all the night or cross country time required yet.Mark Chouinard made a great point in that he too his checkride with many hours compared to his buddy but his buddywishes he would have had more time, not just the minimum. I soloed pretty quickly at 5 hours but it took me 80 beforemy instructor (he wasn't in the Navy) signed me off for my checkride.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Some decals went on today!
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
TriScout wrote:> Chris, Would you have the contact intel on that local sign shop handy? My GN-1"warbird" is painted in P6 Hawk colors...only thing missing are those exactdecals. Thx in advance...> > Larry N2308CBc signs, manitowoc, wi(920) 686-1126--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
TriScout wrote:> Chris, Would you have the contact intel on that local sign shop handy? My GN-1"warbird" is painted in P6 Hawk colors...only thing missing are those exactdecals. Thx in advance...> > Larry N2308CBc signs, manitowoc, wi(920) 686-1126--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: Michael Perez
mucho thanks...will give 'em a call....ler (awaiting winds)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/me_h ... ______Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:11:14 -0800 (PST)
mucho thanks...will give 'em a call....ler (awaiting winds)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/me_h ... ______Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:11:14 -0800 (PST)
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Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Looks great, Chris. Was it you I e-mailed about drain holes for the wings? If it was, and you didn'tget it, and you haven't put them in then, you should consider installing them.I found out that aircraft that are "always hangared" can still get waterin the low spots. A lot of water.If it wasn't you, please disregard:).--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Looks great, Chris. Was it you I e-mailed about drain holes for the wings? If it was, and you didn'tget it, and you haven't put them in then, you should consider installing them.I found out that aircraft that are "always hangared" can still get waterin the low spots. A lot of water.If it wasn't you, please disregard:).--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Perry Rhoads"
kevinpurtee wrote:> Looks great, Chris. > > Was it you I e-mailed about drain holes for the wings? If it was, and you didn'tget it, and you haven't put them in then, you should consider installingthem. I found out that aircraft that are "always hangared" can still get waterin the low spots. A lot of water.> > If it wasn't you, please disregard:).I dont recall us talking about that........but yes i am going to be putting indrain holes. I plan to do it when its all assembled with a soldering iron.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
kevinpurtee wrote:> Looks great, Chris. > > Was it you I e-mailed about drain holes for the wings? If it was, and you didn'tget it, and you haven't put them in then, you should consider installingthem. I found out that aircraft that are "always hangared" can still get waterin the low spots. A lot of water.> > If it wasn't you, please disregard:).I dont recall us talking about that........but yes i am going to be putting indrain holes. I plan to do it when its all assembled with a soldering iron.--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings covered and primed, one paintedMitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________