Pietenpol-List: Covering

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Oct 25, 1997 10:45 am

Original Posted By: Brad Schultz
Something just occurred to me whilst pouring over the Piet pictures on my site. There are lots of pictures of Piets tht are almost completely assembled, wires and all, but without the covering. Then there are lots of other pictures which show the individual components like the wings, fuselage, tail, etc.. being covered _before_ they are assembled. Is it common to completely assemble a Piet before covering it? Seems to me like it would be difficult, if not impossible to cover an assembled aircraft. Richard -----------------------------http://www.wrld.com/w3builderPietenpols, Electronic Music,Website Design, Stompilation________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Oct 25, 1997 3:57 pm

Original Posted By: "Alan A. Laudani"
Richard DeCosta wrote:> Something just occurred to me whilst pouring over the Piet pictures> on my site. There are lots of pictures of Piets tht are almost> completely assembled, wires and all, but without the covering. Then> there are lots of other pictures which show the individual components> like the wings, fuselage, tail, etc.. being covered _before_ they are> assembled. Is it common to completely assemble a Piet before covering> it? Seems to me like it would be difficult, if not impossible to> cover an assembled aircraft.>> Richard> -----------------------------> http://www.wrld.com/w3builder> Pietenpols, Electronic Music,> Website Design, Stompilation That's what you've got to do is build the airplane completly so youknow everything works and fits then take it apart, cover it and then doit all over again. I'am in that process right now with the fuselage.I'am going to completely finish that before doing the wing. That'swhat's nice about the Piet you can build the fuselage and completlyfinish it before the wing or the other way around if you want.Brad Schultzbrsch(at)afcon.net________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Oct 27, 1997 10:04 am

Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Brad Schultz wrote:> Richard DeCosta wrote:>> > Something just occurred to me whilst pouring over the Piet pictures> > on my site. There are lots of pictures of Piets tht are almost> > completely assembled, wires and all, but without the covering. Then> > there are lots of other pictures which show the individual> components> > like the wings, fuselage, tail, etc.. being covered _before_ they> are> > assembled. Is it common to completely assemble a Piet before> covering> > it? Seems to me like it would be difficult, if not impossible to> > cover an assembled aircraft.> >> > Richard> > -----------------------------> > http://www.wrld.com/w3builder> > Pietenpols, Electronic Music,> > Website Design, Stompilation>> That's what you've got to do is build the airplane completly so you> know everything works and fits then take it apart, cover it and then> do> it all over again. I'am in that process right now with the fuselage.> I'am going to completely finish that before doing the wing. That's> what's nice about the Piet you can build the fuselage and completly> finish it before the wing or the other way around if you want.>> Brad Schultz> brsch(at)afcon.net And If you only put it together once before cover you are a better,more patient builder than I.Steve (just gotta see how she looks..) E.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:28 pm

Original Posted By: "Carl Loar"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CoveringDear Piets, Pols, Pauls, Paaawls or whatever I'm allowed,Have been under the weather the last week or so and want to get started doing something (unstrenuos) so have decided to start covering my tail feathers tomorrow. I bought the practice kit from Spruce and hope I have enough dacron for the vert stab.Questions:Do you apply the tac to the tail ribs as well as the frames?How much overlap?Application times, tac, fabric, tapes etc?Don't know enough about it to ask anymore questions; Corky starting to get in a mess in La________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 7:07 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Corky,There's a book ( I think AC Spruce carries it) from Poly Stits that isreally good. Shows you how to prep, overlap and tack, shows how to shrinkand calibrate your iron. Also shows how to rib stitch which you will bedoing a lot of in the near future. I think they get 10 bucks for it but itis really worth it. I used the heck out of it when I did my first plane, andit had aluminum wings so I didn't have to stitch but now I'm glad I held onto it cause it shows the knots and how to use the needles and which ones touse.Also, those small little irons ( you may find one a little cheaper at amodel hobby store ) really come in handy, especially on the corners.Have fun,CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 9:02 pm

Original Posted By: GeneT(at)iwon.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CoveringJoe,Sounds like you are more than ready to fly our Piet. If no troubleshoot me the video as I have lots of time to watch it. Had to go back under the surgeon's knife for the clean out of the left caroded artery. I think he just wanted to create a visual balance. I look like I was hit by a d-8 dozer. Still real weak but the Piet names keep me humored and going.Corky in sick bay in La________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:04:17 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 27, 2001 9:03 pm

Original Posted By: Joe

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:50 am

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CoveringPieters,Was just before ordering some dacron this am to do some experimenting on covering paints when I realized that I should seek some advice from this group as to where I may find the best price on some 1.7 at least 70 in wide uncertified. I would appreciate a phone # / e-mail address or mailing address. Thanks.Corky in La where we are still recovering from the '27 flood.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:53:46 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:58 am

Original Posted By: "Cy Galley"
Hey guys, what headset / intercom system would yourecommend for open cockpit flying?I tried using my intercom and a couple of headsets,but the outside wind and noise made it very hardto talk and understand. Also, I could not use myhandheld ICOM with headset adapter for the samereasons.Thanks.Mike KingGN-177MKDallas, Texas________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:21 am

Original Posted By:
Try Bob Leyner electra(at)rmi.net----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:35 am

Original Posted By: "Mike King"
One thing that helps is a wind sock over the mic.Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, OshkoshEditor, EAA Safety Programscgalley(at)qcbc.org or experimenter(at)eaa.orgAlways looking for articles for the Experimenter----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 12:04 pm

Original Posted By: Gary Gower

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:41 pm

Original Posted By:
Mr. Corky:Don't remember if I mentioned it before but I got my 70" wide and 1.7 ozdacron from The Great Atlantic Aeroplane Company, Inc. in Avon Park, FL.It happened to be certified material, but since they had a price of $5.50/lineal yard and gave me a 10% discount that made it $4.95/yd, which Ididn't think was too bad.You can call them at 1-888-453-2376 and they will send you a free catalog.They seem to have most everything that AS has and are usually a bit cheapereven with out the discount. I bought my stuff from them last month, so thisis a current price.Have my tail feathers and ailerons covered and starting on the stiching.Lou Larsen----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:46 pm

Original Posted By: "George Allen"
Owen, I'm just using it for sanding the top and bottom surface of the rib.Levels the gussets. I also sand the un-gusseted side of the rib after I take it out of the fixture, after the first side has set (24hrs).I glue up one side, then the next day, finish the other side andstart another one. Sanding the unfinished side makes for a nice gluing surface. Only takes a minute.It probably doesn't need it, but I'm a little paranoid anyway. I plan on flying something I've made.> George Allen wrote:> > > > Tom, I've been using a random orbit sander on the wing ribs > > and it leaves a great finish.> > I can't think how a random orbit sander would help in making> wing ribs. In fact, other than scuffing down the edges of the> gussets near the fabric, I'm not sure what one would use any> sander for in rib construction. What am I missing?> > Owen DaviesGeorge AllenHarrisburg, PAGeorgeA(at)PAonline.com(Peitenpol builder)________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Feb 21, 2002 6:43 am

Original Posted By: Fisherman Caye

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:51 am

Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CoveringPieters,IF any of you have a recipe for covering with non aircraft certified materials and are still around to tell about it I would like to try some of your Gumbo.Corky in La where the crawfish are sooooo nice and teeeeeeeeeender and gooooooooooooood. Bleed you yankees bleed.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:01 pm

Original Posted By: "John Dilatush"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CoveringIn a message dated 2/21/02 7:52:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, Isablcorky(at)aol.com writes:> Pieters,> IF any of you have a recipe for covering with non aircraft certified > materials and are still around to tell about it I would like to try some of > > your Gumbo.> Corky in La where the crawfish are sooooo nice and teeeeeeeeeender and > gooooooooooooood. Bleed you yankees bleed.> > > Corky,Here is the process I use for dacron. 1.8 or 2.7 homebuilders dacron, non certified surface tapes, reinforcing tape and cord all from AS&S (because its handy for me). Poly fiber brand Poly tac and Poly brush from anywhere you want. Follow the Poly fiber process up to but not including the fabric fill. Fill the fabric (brush and/or small roller) and paint with Polyurathane oil based paint (floor paint), no silver, two coats total. If you want silver then fill with silver paint and use your color choice over that. The latex house paint would be used the same way. This process was publisbed in a Kitplanes issue several years ago. I am now considering puting cotton on my Scout wing just because I haven't worked with it in a while. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:32 pm

Original Posted By: Dean Pacetti

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri May 17, 2002 7:21 am

Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CoveringPieters,Yes I am at this point. Question? Do/did you rib stitch on the ailerons? I poly-tacked my fabric to the ribs on the underside where that BHP angel curve is negative. Sure glad I did. It will make the stiching a bit easier. Also are the elevators and rudder stitched?Corky in La with Isabelle who has a heating iron in her hand________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri May 17, 2002 7:21 am

Original Posted By: Larry Neal
Subject: CoveringPieters,Yes I am at this point. Question? Do/did you rib stitch on the ailerons? I poly-tacked my fabric to the ribs on the underside where that BHP angel curve is negative. Sure glad I did. It will make the stiching a bit easier. Also are the elevators and rudder stitched?Corky in La with Isabelle who has a heating iron in her hand________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:01:12 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri May 17, 2002 8:39 am

Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: CoveringIn a message dated 5/17/2002 7:21:51 AM Central Daylight Time, Isablcorky writes:> > Pieters,> Yes I am at this point. Question? Do/did you rib stitch on the ailerons? I > poly-tacked my fabric to the ribs on the underside where that BHP angel > curve is negative. Sure glad I did. It will make the stiching a bit easier. > Also are the elevators and rudder stitched?> Corky in La with Isabelle who has a heating iron in her hand

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri May 17, 2002 11:05 am

Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Isablcorky(at)aol.com wrote Also > are the elevators and rudder stitched?> Corky in La with Isabelle who has a heating iron inher handCorky -On a slow flyer like the Piet, with no true airfoil tothe tailfeathers, it is not generally necessary toribstitch the stabs, rudder, or elevator. Of course,with isabel standing there with a hot iron in her hand,I'd do whatever she asked me to!Do cover the tail ribs with reinforcing tape, on theoutside ofthe fabric covering.CraigLake Worth, FLBakeng Duce NX96CWPeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri May 17, 2002 11:33 am

Original Posted By: "walter evans"
Corky,Erring on the cautious side, I rib stitched everything: wings,ailerons, tailfeathers. Although you likely could omit stitch-ing the tail surfaces and ailerons on a Pietenpol, most light-planes use stitching in these places.If you rib stitch the tail surfaces, be careful to not overtighten the stitches lest you deform (pull inward) the capstrips (onthe rudder, for example). When I recovered my Pietenpol, Iglued in some small spruce blocks between the capstrips so they could resist this sort of thing. A trick similar to that employed by the Wright Brothers with their wing ribs.Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN)________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:55 pm

Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
Hi Guys,I have just started covering. I have the vertical and horizontal stabilizercomplete except for the edge tapes. I have the rudder with the fabric on butnow have a problem with the control horn. I have looked thorough the manualand watched the video, (Stits Poly Fibre process) but there is not too muchinfo on how to get round the fittings. Any ideas on how to negotiate theareas around these fittings?CheersPeterWonthaggi, AustraliaHYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cp ... /06/2006-- 12/06/2006________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:24 am

Original Posted By: Peter W Johnson
this may be of some helphttp://veghdesign.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/02-19-05.htmDJ Vegh ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:28 am

Original Posted By: "Sayre, William G"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CoveringIn a message dated 6/15/2006 11:59:41 PM Central Standard Time, vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au writes:Hi Guys,I have just started covering. I have the vertical and horizontal stabilizer complete except for the edge tapes. I have the rudder with the fabric on butnow have a problem with the control horn. I have looked thorough the manual and watched the video, (Stits Poly Fibre process) but there is not too much infoon how to get round the fittings. Any ideas on how to negotiate the areas around these fittings?CheersPeterWonthaggi, AustraliaIn the areas around a fitting, take a sharp hobby knife and make slits in the shape of an 'X', and allow the fitting to protrude through the fabric. Thencarefully cut off the flaps of the 'X', to allow a very tight fitting area around the fitting, even allowing the fabric to creap up around the perimeter of the fitting. Then use poly tac to add a small piece 1 1/2" or 2" of fabric around the fitting with the same type of 'X' slits, but be sure to place thethreads of the doubler fabric at a 45=BA angle to the base fabric threads. You can use your iron to blend in the edges of the doubler patch. These pieces of doubler fabric should be added anywhere there is a fitting protruding through the fabric, or where there is any type of structure that is touching the fabric underneath. This keeps the fabric from wearing through when in service. It's easy enough to get the doubler patch to lay right down to the point where after paint, you can hardly even see it after the paint is applied. As for the edges, I center up the edge tape and go around the entire perimeter, just gluing the center of the edge tape. Then iron it down around the radius to shrink the edge tape as much as possible, then cut slits at the corners or anywhereit goes around a radius, and glue down the slits overlapping the edge tape so that is 'Out of the Wind'. Use your iron to make it lay down perfectly flatafter the dabbing the poly tac underneath.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aidDate: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:11:20 -0700

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:49 am

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:38 am

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:44 am

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:59 am

Original Posted By: Gary Gower

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:06 am

Original Posted By:
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aidHave somebody make you bifocal goggles Harv.Clif> > Wouldn't it be better just to wear bifocal glass's.I have trifocal and I> may have a problem with them under my goggles.Have to see about that but> I'm sure I can find either a small enough pair to go under my goggles or> bigger goggles.Either way I'll work something out.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:22 am

Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aidThat would cost a huge amount of money but I did read an email off thelist yesterday that I acted on and that was to buy the focal lences fromACS for about 20$ that just stick on inside.-----Original Message-----[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ClifDawsonSent: June 17, 2006 1:06 AMHave somebody make you bifocal goggles Harv.Clif> > Wouldn't it be better just to wear bifocal glass's.I have trifocal andI> may have a problem with them under my goggles.Have to see about thatbut> I'm sure I can find either a small enough pair to go under my gogglesor> bigger goggles.Either way I'll work something out.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:35 am

Original Posted By: KMHeide
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aidIn a message dated 6/17/2006 6:26:59 AM Central Standard Time, harvey.rule(at)bell.ca writes:buy the focal lences fromACS for about 20$ that just stick on inside.I've been using them for years now. I use them every day in my safety glasses at work, safety glasses flying the Piet, and sun glasses. Wet the insideof the glasses with a couple drops of water, press in position, dab the excess water with paper towel. When the glasses get scratched, just peel them off, get a new pair of glasses, and put them back on the new ones. They work reallywell for me.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:14 pm

Original Posted By: Craig Lawler
Subject: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aidBill, All you have to do is put a seeing eye dog in the front cockpit and let himbark out directions and altitude. One slap up side the head should get his attentionto get it right. Just don't put your trusty pit bull in the front or youmay loose your landing arm... Sincerely, Left hand Luke ---------------------------------________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:16 pm

Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: CoveringThanks Guys.-----Original Message-----[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf OfRcaprd(at)aol.comSent: Friday, 16 June 2006 3:28 PMIn a message dated 6/15/2006 11:59:41 PM Central Standard Time,vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au writes:Hi Guys,I have just started covering. I have the vertical and horizontal stabilizercomplete except for the edge tapes. I have the rudder with the fabric on butnow have a problem with the control horn. I have looked thorough the manualand watched the video, (Stits Poly Fibre process) but there is not too muchinfo on how to get round the fittings. Any ideas on how to negotiate theareas around these fittings?CheersPeterWonthaggi, AustraliaIn the areas around a fitting, take a sharp hobby knife and make slits inthe shape of an 'X', and allow the fitting to protrude through the fabric.Then carefully cut off the flaps of the 'X', to allow a very tight fittingarea around the fitting, even allowing the fabric to creap up around theperimeter of the fitting. Then use poly tac to add a small piece 1 1/2" or2" of fabric around the fitting with the same type of 'X' slits, but be sureto place the threads of the doubler fabric at a 45 angle to the base fabricthreads. You can use your iron to blend in the edges of the doubler patch.These pieces of doubler fabric should be added anywhere there is a fittingprotruding through the fabric, or where there is any type of structure thatis touching the fabric underneath. This keeps the fabric from wearingthrough when in service. It's easy enough to get the doubler patch to layright down to the point where after paint, you can hardly even see it afterthe paint is applied. As for the edges, I center up the edge tape and goaround the entire perimeter, just gluing the center of the edge tape. Theniron it down around the radius to shrink the edge tape as much as possible,then cut slits at the corners or anywhere it goes around a radius, and gluedown the slits overlapping the edge tape so that is 'Out of the Wind'. Useyour iron to make it lay down perfectly flat after the dabbing the poly tacunderneath.Chuck G.NX770CG---- ________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:34 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,For the few curves that I have, I made my own bias pieces out of scraps.Mostly 2" pinked, some 3" pinked. Note that some 1.7 oz material does NOTcome in wide enough rolls to cover one side of the wing. Best wishes,Gary from CoolNX308MB

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:35 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,Pinked edge tapes are much easier to keep from peeling up. You won't needmuch bias ply tape, but there are a few places wher it is helpful, such asgoing around the top of the vertical fin - no way you'll get regular tape tolay down properly there. You won't need much - just buy a small roll of 4"bias tape and that should be plenty.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:25 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:38 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:52 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Michael, If I might make a suggestion, start with reading the ENTIREcovering manual, then read it again. The when you are ready to startcovering, re-read the section pertaining to the part of the airframe you arecovering. If the Stewart manual is as good as the PolyFiber manual, youshould have no problems.I love fabric covering. To me, this is the very best part of the entirebuilding process, where you take odd pieces of framework and turn them intoparts of an airplane that can actually FLY.Good luck!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:15 am

Original Posted By: Marvin Haught

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:46 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:46 pm

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hey latex guys...Am I correct in not sanding the Fastbond cement before applyingthe latex primer coat?Thanks!Sent from my iPadJack Textor________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:55:04 -0800 (PST)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:57 pm

Original Posted By: Michael Perez

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:48 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I didn't do any sanding until after the 2nd coat of primer, then no moresanding at all.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:01 pm

Original Posted By: Michael Perez

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:42 am

Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CoveringHello Jack, late, but like Michael and Gary I paint without primer withexterior latex, just white latex over the fabric...Mario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/10 Jack >> Hey latex guys...Am I correct in not sanding the Fastbond cement before> applying the latex primer coat?> Thanks!>> Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor>>________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:34 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
And of course, you have the Big Piet Builders about 40 miles to the West inCarrollton. Monday is our usual work night, so we will all be working on aproject together.Barry770-301-8087 cell

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:34 am

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Barry, what time are you starting Monday and what is he project? GardinerSent from my iPadOn Feb 13, 2013, at 11:34 AM, "Barry Davis" wrote:> And of course, you have the Big Piet Builders about 40 miles to the West in Carrollton. Monday is our usual work night, so we will all be working on a project together.> Barry> 770-301-8087 cell>

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:37 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
If you and Douwe come out, we will do a Big Piet Tour at 6Barry