Original Posted By: "giacummo"
The smaller, more transportable and higher tech... the more expensive...Therefore, what I bought was, the venerable Miller Synchrowave 300. It's a BEASTof a reliable OLD unit that I see on ebay regularly for $1000. While a 300amp machine, commonly listed as 3 phase, it's NOT, it's built and designed foreverything from 220v single phase, to 575v three phase, doesn't matter. I'vegot mine on a simple 40amp 220v breaker and weld 1/8 stainless at 150 amps withno problem. Just haven't tried larger stuff yet.Insofar as reliability and it being old, if the transformer is good, it's affordablyfixable. There are two pc boards and I just had both fixed for $200 total.So really, that's sort of worst case. The synchrowave 250 and 350 are newersquare wave machines that should be about the same, so if you can get oneof those for as cheap, I'd go that way.The drawback... it's BIG. Like 800lbs and five feet tall on a cooler. However,it rolls around as easily my MUCH smaller MIG welder.Saw two on ebay yesterday for a grand, so they're available. You'll also see abunch for $3500 or so, new it's probably in the six grand range. It's a NICEwelder. I don't know about Lincoln, but Miller is REALLY nice to deal with. Online andfree are ALL the manuals for these machines. Parts from them are super expensive,but they're so common in industry that there's LOTS of aftermarket support.They also sponsor a nice forum from which you can gets lots of expert advicein the use, care and repair of these neat old industrial machines. Not really on topic, but my MIG welder is a Miller CP-200 with a wire feeder. It's a 3 phase machine easily converted for about 20 bucks. You see them on ebayin the three to five hundred range with wire feeders. It's ALSO a reallynice super reliable machine that loafs along spraying .035 wire on a 20amp circuitI have set up for it. If anyone needs a nice wire feed that's adjustableenough to use on everything from auto sheet metal to 1/2" thick tractor parts,consider one of these.Google Haas-Kemp Miller CP-200 Welder Conversion for more info. It's been discussedon a dozen forums. It first came to life on the Practical Machinist websiteand you can easily find Dave Kemp's email and chat with him directly aboutit.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Hello,I want to know if it is necesary to close the interior border of a three piecewing, I am refering to the side near the center section. Regards.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hello,I want to know if it is necesary to close the interior border of a three piecewing, I am refering to the side near the center section. Regards.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
HI Mario,I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
HI Mario,I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
It is required. GeneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> > HI Mario,> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
It is required. GeneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> > HI Mario,> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
The end of the wing panels on NX18235 are not closed. This is helpful for insetion purposes.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
The end of the wing panels on NX18235 are not closed. This is helpful for insetion purposes.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By:> > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderGene, why is required? just to know.Mario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/14 Gene Rambo >> It is required.>> Gene>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" > wrote:>> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>> >> > HI Mario,> >> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.> >> > Jack Phillips> > NX899JP> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> >> > -----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderGene, why is required? just to know.Mario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/14 Gene Rambo >> It is required.>> Gene>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" > wrote:>> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>> >> > HI Mario,> >> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.> >> > Jack Phillips> > NX899JP> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> >> > -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
Barry, that offer sounds pretty fun!IF I make my flight (I fly standby) and get there in the afternoon asplanned, this would likely work, but will get with Gardiner and see whathis plans are since I'm staying with him.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Barry, that offer sounds pretty fun!IF I make my flight (I fly standby) and get there in the afternoon asplanned, this would likely work, but will get with Gardiner and see whathis plans are since I'm staying with him.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By:>> > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Look at 43:13 and any covering manual I have ever seen. They all show ways to cover ends and say it is required. GeneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> Gene, why is required? just to know.> > > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > 2013/2/14 Gene Rambo >> >> It is required.>> >> Gene>> >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:>> th.net>>> >>> > HI Mario,>> >>> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.>> >>> > Jack Phillips>> > NX899JP>> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
Look at 43:13 and any covering manual I have ever seen. They all show ways to cover ends and say it is required. GeneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> Gene, why is required? just to know.> > > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > 2013/2/14 Gene Rambo >> >> It is required.>> >> Gene>> >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:05 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:>> th.net>>> >>> > HI Mario,>> >>> > I closed mine in, but am not sure if it was necessary or not.>> >>> > Jack Phillips>> > NX899JP>> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Looking quickly (emphasis on "quickly") through Section 2 (fabric covering) ofAC 43.13-1B, I didn't see anything that said that wing butts must be covered,but I did find a reference to the manner in which overlapped and doped seamsshould be dealt with for wing butts. So, they do tell you what you should doIF you cover the wing butts with an overlapped and doped seam. I have attacheda copy of the pertinent section.I think the main concern would be ensuring that the fabric is securely attachedto the airframe, and that there is no chance that the fabric could come looseover time, and likely the easiest way to do that would be to cover the wing butts.Although, if built to the published plans for the 3-piece wing, the wingbutt will have a 2 inch wide plywood strip, which would provide a good amountof surface area for fabric adhesion.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4313 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Looking quickly (emphasis on "quickly") through Section 2 (fabric covering) ofAC 43.13-1B, I didn't see anything that said that wing butts must be covered,but I did find a reference to the manner in which overlapped and doped seamsshould be dealt with for wing butts. So, they do tell you what you should doIF you cover the wing butts with an overlapped and doped seam. I have attacheda copy of the pertinent section.I think the main concern would be ensuring that the fabric is securely attachedto the airframe, and that there is no chance that the fabric could come looseover time, and likely the easiest way to do that would be to cover the wing butts.Although, if built to the published plans for the 3-piece wing, the wingbutt will have a 2 inch wide plywood strip, which would provide a good amountof surface area for fabric adhesion.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4313 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
We got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required, then its REQUIRED!Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
We got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required, then its REQUIRED!Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
How about what he says about color schemes, Dan?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
How about what he says about color schemes, Dan?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderWe got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required, then its REQUIRED!Dan HelsperI'm amused by some of the sweeping absolutes I see on the list like never, always, withoutany justification given as to why it might be so.With a homebuilt airplane nothing is usually required except to pass your airworthiness inspectionhere in the US but beyond that anything goes and we have seen examples of those rickety, scarylooking homebuilts over the years but they did get an airworthiness certificate and that is all thatis required to complete and fly a homebuilt in this country.I like seeing advice giving 'usually, often, most times' on the list because with homebuilts there are SOmany options and good ways of doing the same thing that might not be the same as what other buildershave done.I would talk to the old hands at the airport and they would warn me about using this or that and not to usethe newfangled elastic stop nuts but mostly found they were full of it so I knew I could always get sound advicefrom my Uncle Tony's books instead of old wives tales.My Uncle Tony Bingelis wrote the book (s)(quite literally) on giving outstanding homebuilding advice withmany options taking into account the difficulty or ease of a task, the expense, and weight penalty optionsgiven freely. What an open-minded education too reading Tony's books are even if you never build orfinish a homebuilt.Mike C.All four Binglis books--- http://www.shopeaa.com/bingelissetof4.aspxActually probably cheapest on Amazon...Oh, and if you want to pad the pockets of Jim Irwin at ASSco, Incyou can pay more than you need to if you buy them here. Buy here and spend $7.50 more (taking shipping costsinto account between EAA and ACS) http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/ ... __________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderWe got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required, then its REQUIRED!Dan HelsperI'm amused by some of the sweeping absolutes I see on the list like never, always, withoutany justification given as to why it might be so.With a homebuilt airplane nothing is usually required except to pass your airworthiness inspectionhere in the US but beyond that anything goes and we have seen examples of those rickety, scarylooking homebuilts over the years but they did get an airworthiness certificate and that is all thatis required to complete and fly a homebuilt in this country.I like seeing advice giving 'usually, often, most times' on the list because with homebuilts there are SOmany options and good ways of doing the same thing that might not be the same as what other buildershave done.I would talk to the old hands at the airport and they would warn me about using this or that and not to usethe newfangled elastic stop nuts but mostly found they were full of it so I knew I could always get sound advicefrom my Uncle Tony's books instead of old wives tales.My Uncle Tony Bingelis wrote the book (s)(quite literally) on giving outstanding homebuilding advice withmany options taking into account the difficulty or ease of a task, the expense, and weight penalty optionsgiven freely. What an open-minded education too reading Tony's books are even if you never build orfinish a homebuilt.Mike C.All four Binglis books--- http://www.shopeaa.com/bingelissetof4.aspxActually probably cheapest on Amazon...Oh, and if you want to pad the pockets of Jim Irwin at ASSco, Incyou can pay more than you need to if you buy them here. Buy here and spend $7.50 more (taking shipping costsinto account between EAA and ACS) http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/ ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet tour
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
It's a easy drive out I-20 from Atlanta, about 50 minutes. You can eatdinner any time, but visiting Pietenpols....that's another story.Barry770-301-8087 cell
It's a easy drive out I-20 from Atlanta, about 50 minutes. You can eatdinner any time, but visiting Pietenpols....that's another story.Barry770-301-8087 cell
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Poly-Fiber says to do them at silver, thus avoiding any of the under-coat colorscoming out on your final finish.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Poly-Fiber says to do them at silver, thus avoiding any of the under-coat colorscoming out on your final finish.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Original Posted By: Bill Church
Well.......time will tell if he has in fact copied my color scheme exactly. If so, then yes, he would be right on the mark there as well! Not that I necessarily approve of that behavior, but it would prove his good taste and his ability to copy important features of those who came before.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Well.......time will tell if he has in fact copied my color scheme exactly. If so, then yes, he would be right on the mark there as well! Not that I necessarily approve of that behavior, but it would prove his good taste and his ability to copy important features of those who came before.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By:ng about=2C and I certainly don't have to prove myself to anyone. Gene
I take it Dan's post was tongue in cheek. I have certainly never taken such a position. There are people on this post who are engineers=2C who are master machinists=2C who have spent their whole lives building=2C restoring and flying a myraid of aircraft=2C who are A&Ps and IAs - some for many=2C many years. Sometimes people from this group step in from time to time to offer their opinion=2C based on knowledge and experience=2C in areas they are familiar with. There are also those who are none of these things=2C but who nonetheless offer authoritative-sounding opinions on most anything regardless of whether they have any first-hand knowledge. Newcomers to this list have no way of knowing the difference. The standard retort from the peanut gallery to every single statement is that "this is an experimental airplane and I can do anything I want." True enough=2C but there are some general practices that can be changed=2C but for no reason. You don't HAVE to use locknuts or cotter pins in aircraft bolts . . . the books all say it=2C common sense dictates it=2C but it IS an experimental airplane. I doubt any inspector will approve it=2C but let me know how the experimental argument works for you. Primary flight control cables in (modern) certified airplanes are always at least 1/8 by rule. Yes=2C the plans show less=2C yes=2C you can do it=2C it IS an experimental airplane. Do whatever you want. There are a million other standard ppractices that are ignored on this list every day by people who don't want to listen to experience. Since it seems to bother so many people to have their certainty threatened by anyone who just might know what they are talking about=2C I will wisely join the majority of the people in the first paragraph and keep my mouth shut from now on by removing myself from this list. God forbid I might know what I am talki
I take it Dan's post was tongue in cheek. I have certainly never taken such a position. There are people on this post who are engineers=2C who are master machinists=2C who have spent their whole lives building=2C restoring and flying a myraid of aircraft=2C who are A&Ps and IAs - some for many=2C many years. Sometimes people from this group step in from time to time to offer their opinion=2C based on knowledge and experience=2C in areas they are familiar with. There are also those who are none of these things=2C but who nonetheless offer authoritative-sounding opinions on most anything regardless of whether they have any first-hand knowledge. Newcomers to this list have no way of knowing the difference. The standard retort from the peanut gallery to every single statement is that "this is an experimental airplane and I can do anything I want." True enough=2C but there are some general practices that can be changed=2C but for no reason. You don't HAVE to use locknuts or cotter pins in aircraft bolts . . . the books all say it=2C common sense dictates it=2C but it IS an experimental airplane. I doubt any inspector will approve it=2C but let me know how the experimental argument works for you. Primary flight control cables in (modern) certified airplanes are always at least 1/8 by rule. Yes=2C the plans show less=2C yes=2C you can do it=2C it IS an experimental airplane. Do whatever you want. There are a million other standard ppractices that are ignored on this list every day by people who don't want to listen to experience. Since it seems to bother so many people to have their certainty threatened by anyone who just might know what they are talking about=2C I will wisely join the majority of the people in the first paragraph and keep my mouth shut from now on by removing myself from this list. God forbid I might know what I am talki
RE: Pietenpol-List: Am I building the wrong airplane? (Pilot Weight Again)
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ryan,I have only successfully completed one Pietenpol, and no way consider myselfto be all-knowing.but, FWIW.I don't think your weight will be an issue. Do not move your cockpit.it willlead to too many issues. Consider allowing your wing to tilt back 4" (that'swhat I did. I'm 195 when I'm lying). I have a wing tank, and fuel andpassenger seem to do very little to the balance, although it does affect theweight, and therefore the performance. You did not mention your engine,although I have witnessed Model A's doing amazing work at Brodhead. I have aCorvair, developing 110 hp on T/O, with my current prop.Please keep us posted on your progress!Gary BootheNX308MB
Ryan,I have only successfully completed one Pietenpol, and no way consider myselfto be all-knowing.but, FWIW.I don't think your weight will be an issue. Do not move your cockpit.it willlead to too many issues. Consider allowing your wing to tilt back 4" (that'swhat I did. I'm 195 when I'm lying). I have a wing tank, and fuel andpassenger seem to do very little to the balance, although it does affect theweight, and therefore the performance. You did not mention your engine,although I have witnessed Model A's doing amazing work at Brodhead. I have aCorvair, developing 110 hp on T/O, with my current prop.Please keep us posted on your progress!Gary BootheNX308MB
Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I building the wrong airplane? (Pilot Weight Again)
Original Posted By: Aircamperace(at)yahoo.com
I've never researched one of those, but hear A LOT about them on many welding forums.It's one of those things where you hate to admit it, but apparantly theywork really really well... especially in the not so heavy duty cycle/occassionaluse arena (which is us).ESPECIALLY with ALL the accessories there, including a helmet. One stop shoppingand everything is matched. Maybe with the exception of a little dedicatedgrinder to keep your tungsten sharp. By the way, when learning TIG, you're gonna contaminate your tungsten a lot. Juststop, regrind and go again. Trying to weld with a messed up tip is completelycounterproductive. It's tough to make yourself stop, especially when youget a good run going, but you can't. Ultimately gonna frustrate you more thanjust stopping to reset.By the way, for anyone learning welding, I HIGHLY recommend paying a visit to www.weldingtipsandtricks.com. That guy makes some REALLY easy to watch and understand videos of all sorts of welding. It's a great website. Nothing but really practical videos and advice.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I building the wrong airplane? (Pilot Weight Again)
I've never researched one of those, but hear A LOT about them on many welding forums.It's one of those things where you hate to admit it, but apparantly theywork really really well... especially in the not so heavy duty cycle/occassionaluse arena (which is us).ESPECIALLY with ALL the accessories there, including a helmet. One stop shoppingand everything is matched. Maybe with the exception of a little dedicatedgrinder to keep your tungsten sharp. By the way, when learning TIG, you're gonna contaminate your tungsten a lot. Juststop, regrind and go again. Trying to weld with a messed up tip is completelycounterproductive. It's tough to make yourself stop, especially when youget a good run going, but you can't. Ultimately gonna frustrate you more thanjust stopping to reset.By the way, for anyone learning welding, I HIGHLY recommend paying a visit to www.weldingtipsandtricks.com. That guy makes some REALLY easy to watch and understand videos of all sorts of welding. It's a great website. Nothing but really practical videos and advice.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I building the wrong airplane? (Pilot Weight Again)
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Thanks. Haven't decided on engine yet but it's either Corvair or Continental. Since I can't decide I'm focusing on fire wall aft. I am getting ready to bend wing/gear fittings soon.RyanSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 8:13 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Ryan,> > I have only successfully completed one Pietenpol, and no way consider myself to be all-knowingbut, FWIW> > I don=99t think your weight will be an issue. Do not move your cockpitit will lead to too many issues. Consider allowing your wing to tilt back 4=9D (that=99s what I did. I=99m 195 when I=99m lying). I have a wing tank, and fuel and passenger seem to do very little to the balance, although it does affect the weight, and therefore the performance. You did not mention your engine, although I have witnessed Model A=99s doing amazing work at Brodhead. I have a Corvair, developing 110 hp on T/O, with my current prop.> > Please keep us posted on your progress!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
Thanks. Haven't decided on engine yet but it's either Corvair or Continental. Since I can't decide I'm focusing on fire wall aft. I am getting ready to bend wing/gear fittings soon.RyanSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 14, 2013, at 8:13 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Ryan,> > I have only successfully completed one Pietenpol, and no way consider myself to be all-knowingbut, FWIW> > I don=99t think your weight will be an issue. Do not move your cockpitit will lead to too many issues. Consider allowing your wing to tilt back 4=9D (that=99s what I did. I=99m 195 when I=99m lying). I have a wing tank, and fuel and passenger seem to do very little to the balance, although it does affect the weight, and therefore the performance. You did not mention your engine, although I have witnessed Model A=99s doing amazing work at Brodhead. I have a Corvair, developing 110 hp on T/O, with my current prop.> > Please keep us posted on your progress!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing border
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderWe got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required=2C then its REQUIRED! Dan Helsper I=92m amused by some of the sweeping absolutes I see on the list like never=2C always=2C withoutany justification given as to why it might be so. With a homebuilt airplane nothing is usually required except to pass your airworthiness inspectionhere in the US but beyond that anything goes and we have seen examples of those rickety=2C scarylooking homebuilts over the years but they did get an airworthiness certificate and that is all thatis required to complete and fly a homebuilt in this country. I like seeing advice giving =91usually=2C often=2C most times=92 on the list because with homebuilts there are SOmany options and good ways of doing the same thing that might not be the same as what other buildershave done. I would talk to the old hands at the airport and they would warn me about using this or that and not to usethe newfangled elastic stop nuts but mostly found they were full of it so I knew I could always get sound advicefrom my Uncle Tony=92s books instead of old wives tales. My Uncle Tony Bingelis wrote the book (s)(quite literally) on giving outstanding homebuilding advice withmany options taking into account the difficulty or ease of a task=2C the expense=2C and weight penalty optionsgiven freely. What an open-minded education too reading Tony=92s books are even if you never build orfinish a homebuilt. Mike C. All four Binglis books--- http://www.shopeaa.com/bingelissetof4.aspx Actually probably cheapest on Amazon=85 Oh=2C and if you want to pad the pockets of Jim Irwin at ASSco=2C Incyou can pay more than you need to if you buy them here. Buy here and spend $7.50 more (taking shipping costsinto account between EAA and ACS) http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/ ... gelis.html ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing borderWe got rules on this list.....if Rambo says its required=2C then its REQUIRED! Dan Helsper I=92m amused by some of the sweeping absolutes I see on the list like never=2C always=2C withoutany justification given as to why it might be so. With a homebuilt airplane nothing is usually required except to pass your airworthiness inspectionhere in the US but beyond that anything goes and we have seen examples of those rickety=2C scarylooking homebuilts over the years but they did get an airworthiness certificate and that is all thatis required to complete and fly a homebuilt in this country. I like seeing advice giving =91usually=2C often=2C most times=92 on the list because with homebuilts there are SOmany options and good ways of doing the same thing that might not be the same as what other buildershave done. I would talk to the old hands at the airport and they would warn me about using this or that and not to usethe newfangled elastic stop nuts but mostly found they were full of it so I knew I could always get sound advicefrom my Uncle Tony=92s books instead of old wives tales. My Uncle Tony Bingelis wrote the book (s)(quite literally) on giving outstanding homebuilding advice withmany options taking into account the difficulty or ease of a task=2C the expense=2C and weight penalty optionsgiven freely. What an open-minded education too reading Tony=92s books are even if you never build orfinish a homebuilt. Mike C. All four Binglis books--- http://www.shopeaa.com/bingelissetof4.aspx Actually probably cheapest on Amazon=85 Oh=2C and if you want to pad the pockets of Jim Irwin at ASSco=2C Incyou can pay more than you need to if you buy them here. Buy here and spend $7.50 more (taking shipping costsinto account between EAA and ACS) http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/ ... gelis.html ________________________________________________________________________________