Original Posted By: Bkemike
Group,I have no idea where to find someone / company to thread my axle (straight axle LG) - or to do some TIG welding (not including my engine mount which is already done by Vern @ flycorvair.net ) you know - all the control pieces, etc..some questions:1. Generaly what company 'type' am I looking to google / yellow page lookup for this service?2. What should I expect to pay (generaly) to have the axle ends threaded?3. What is the going hourly rate (range..) for a GOOD tig welder?If anyone in the greater dayton-cinci-columbus OH areas has a refferal for either or both types of services, Id appreaciate that also..Bob DewenterDayton OH________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TIG Welder
Original Posted By: Ohbejoyful
I also have a Harbor Freight auto-darkening helmet. It was way too dark until I adjusted the darkness from 13 to 9. It now works perfectly with my Miller Diversion 180 TIG.Mike HardawaySent from an Apple iThingie.On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, George Abernathy wrote:> The chemical sharpening is supposed to do a better job smoothness wise. > > Besides I have already filled in the form and emailed it. > > I discovered that I couldn't see the puddle with my 15 year old harbor freight auto darkening helmet. So I bought a miller super gee whiz bang titanium helmet. It is an amazing piece of gear. It has settings for all sorts of stuff. Even one for grinding. > > [snip]________________________________________________________________________________
I also have a Harbor Freight auto-darkening helmet. It was way too dark until I adjusted the darkness from 13 to 9. It now works perfectly with my Miller Diversion 180 TIG.Mike HardawaySent from an Apple iThingie.On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, George Abernathy wrote:> The chemical sharpening is supposed to do a better job smoothness wise. > > Besides I have already filled in the form and emailed it. > > I discovered that I couldn't see the puddle with my 15 year old harbor freight auto darkening helmet. So I bought a miller super gee whiz bang titanium helmet. It is an amazing piece of gear. It has settings for all sorts of stuff. Even one for grinding. > > [snip]________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I had my axel threaded by a local machine shop. They charged me thereminimum shop charge of 20 bucks. ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
I had my axel threaded by a local machine shop. They charged me thereminimum shop charge of 20 bucks. ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: "Chris"
Well, I think I'm gonna have whomever wants to come to my place to help me withmy hangar/have fun/do some machining and play with stuff in either two or threeweeks.I have a very nice TIG welder and we can do some/all your welding. Or we can havemy neighbor do it as a demo (he's a lifelong professional welder, formerlyASME certified to TIG weld cracked nitrogen tank cracks). We can also thread your axles as long as the axles are 1 1/2" or smaller (that'sthe size of the through hole on my larger lathe). So consider coming down to Chatt for the weekend. I should have beds, couches,cots, motorhome, floor space for 15 to 30 people, no worries there. Should be the weekend of 2/3 Mar, or the next weekend. If there's any interestthere for you, let me know, I'll post details.Insofar as finding local help, really, try Craigslist for welding services. Manypros advertise there to make a few bucks afterhours. Otherwise, just googleor yellow pages. Typical "shop rates" are gonna run 75 an hour probably, unlessyou can work a barter, strike up some personal connection or something likethat.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Well, I think I'm gonna have whomever wants to come to my place to help me withmy hangar/have fun/do some machining and play with stuff in either two or threeweeks.I have a very nice TIG welder and we can do some/all your welding. Or we can havemy neighbor do it as a demo (he's a lifelong professional welder, formerlyASME certified to TIG weld cracked nitrogen tank cracks). We can also thread your axles as long as the axles are 1 1/2" or smaller (that'sthe size of the through hole on my larger lathe). So consider coming down to Chatt for the weekend. I should have beds, couches,cots, motorhome, floor space for 15 to 30 people, no worries there. Should be the weekend of 2/3 Mar, or the next weekend. If there's any interestthere for you, let me know, I'll post details.Insofar as finding local help, really, try Craigslist for welding services. Manypros advertise there to make a few bucks afterhours. Otherwise, just googleor yellow pages. Typical "shop rates" are gonna run 75 an hour probably, unlessyou can work a barter, strike up some personal connection or something likethat.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Little plug for Air Venture (Oshkosh)... there's a GREAT seminar on GAS weldingaluminum (as in for tanks) that is really really good. Very comprehensive insofar as even construction methods that are conducive forgas welding one together. I agree that getting a gas outfit is probably the most comprehensive. You cancut, braze, heat (for either fitting or taking things apart), weld (steel, alum)and solder. I do believe it's probably harder, but in the end, the trick to learning weldingis a matter of time with the hood down so to speak. So may as well just learnwhat your gonna use.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Little plug for Air Venture (Oshkosh)... there's a GREAT seminar on GAS weldingaluminum (as in for tanks) that is really really good. Very comprehensive insofar as even construction methods that are conducive forgas welding one together. I agree that getting a gas outfit is probably the most comprehensive. You cancut, braze, heat (for either fitting or taking things apart), weld (steel, alum)and solder. I do believe it's probably harder, but in the end, the trick to learning weldingis a matter of time with the hood down so to speak. So may as well just learnwhat your gonna use.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: George Abernathy
Pietenpol-List: Re: TIG Welder
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
WHAT! That's a hundred bucks! I was suggesting buying it through a chemical supplybecause it should cost a lot LESS than buying chemsharp. Couldn't you goto the local university and buy some from the chem lab? 20 bucks should buy youenough to last a lifetime. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I just wishyou would have said something about those numbers before pulling the trigger!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
WHAT! That's a hundred bucks! I was suggesting buying it through a chemical supplybecause it should cost a lot LESS than buying chemsharp. Couldn't you goto the local university and buy some from the chem lab? 20 bucks should buy youenough to last a lifetime. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I just wishyou would have said something about those numbers before pulling the trigger!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: "tools"
Are they covered or open to the elements.?Clif>> Yes...on my tale surfaces which were torqued a couple years ago, all bolts> for the hinges took one to two turns to tighten up before covering...>> Jack Textor> Des Moines, IA>>> Wood shrinkage can allow a through bolt to become loose, all the while the> nut never moving and remaining tightly in place on the bolt.>> I've seen this on my plane.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Are they covered or open to the elements.?Clif>> Yes...on my tale surfaces which were torqued a couple years ago, all bolts> for the hinges took one to two turns to tighten up before covering...>> Jack Textor> Des Moines, IA>>> Wood shrinkage can allow a through bolt to become loose, all the while the> nut never moving and remaining tightly in place on the bolt.>> I've seen this on my plane.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Threading / TIG Welder sources, rates
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
This is a busy thread!Can't remember the alloy, but they showed oxy/acet as well as oxy/hydrogen? Therewere compromises with each, and I leaned towards just oxy/acet because I'malready set up. If I weren't the hydrogen thing was pretty cool. I've also played around with alum welding with oxy/acet with the henrob/dilliontorch and that's usually all 1000 series stuff, the advantage over tig beingit's annealed and workable.The seminar at oshkosh was all standard smith style torch stuff, with a readilyavailable flux (which may be the same as the propietary henrob stuff, don't reallyknow). Ultimately, the real advantage seemed to be that the oxy/acet rig just becomesMORE versatile knowing how to do it. Like anything, it's a matter of burningup some gas and aluminum while just learning to assimilate what's happening throughpractice.The most counterintuitive thing was that when things were getting fast, and youwanted to slow down to let your brain catch up, the natural thing to do is pullthe torch back... WRONG... the heat cone is bigger and you just melt a bighole. What needs to be done is to feed more filler rod, which cools the puddleand slows things down. Sounds simple enough...ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
This is a busy thread!Can't remember the alloy, but they showed oxy/acet as well as oxy/hydrogen? Therewere compromises with each, and I leaned towards just oxy/acet because I'malready set up. If I weren't the hydrogen thing was pretty cool. I've also played around with alum welding with oxy/acet with the henrob/dilliontorch and that's usually all 1000 series stuff, the advantage over tig beingit's annealed and workable.The seminar at oshkosh was all standard smith style torch stuff, with a readilyavailable flux (which may be the same as the propietary henrob stuff, don't reallyknow). Ultimately, the real advantage seemed to be that the oxy/acet rig just becomesMORE versatile knowing how to do it. Like anything, it's a matter of burningup some gas and aluminum while just learning to assimilate what's happening throughpractice.The most counterintuitive thing was that when things were getting fast, and youwanted to slow down to let your brain catch up, the natural thing to do is pullthe torch back... WRONG... the heat cone is bigger and you just melt a bighole. What needs to be done is to feed more filler rod, which cools the puddleand slows things down. Sounds simple enough...ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________