Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Thanks to everyone who has given positive suggestions as to how to prep their capstrips for bending in the jig. What I really hope is that someone who has beenthinking of starting the wing ribs reads all of this and it motivates themto get started.Thanks!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: George Abernathy
As I said in my previous posting, there are some fine wood workers in this group.And I have seen some really fine wing rib jigs. Some with clamps, some withDowels used to lock the verticals in place. I have seen discussions about thepluses and minuses of staples, nails, clamps, all of the above, and none ofthe above. So, after designing my wing rib jig for the THIRD time, I settled on the following.I used MDF, and nails with the heads cut off (got that from one of Tony Bingelis'articles and I liked the simplicity). I used the MDF, A sharpie to markthe wing rib outline, some nails, some pieces of wood to go where the sparswill sit, and three tubes of clamps from Harbor Freight. Oh, and of course, T88.I cut holes at the joints and cut a notch so I could use clamps instead ofstaples or nails. Mine may go down as the ugliest jig ever presented on thisforum, but I have included pictures of the end result in order to show you thatthe ribs match up quite well. And no staples or nails. The ribs hopefully oncecovered will not be seen for another 10-15 years or more, so I am not concernedthat they are not works of art. I can tell you, however, that they are strongas can be.I am sure you are wondering how I am going to take care of the gussets extendingpast the edge of the cap strips. I plan to either carefully use my trusty bandsawto remove the "proud " portion, or my router table with a flush bit. Anysuggestions are gladly accepted.Again, I just want some people to see that the beauty of the jig is not what makesstrong ribs. It is the quality of the rest of the work. Even if you are nota master woodworker, you can build this airplane, so GET STARTED!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/post ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:12:49 -0800 (PST)
As I said in my previous posting, there are some fine wood workers in this group.And I have seen some really fine wing rib jigs. Some with clamps, some withDowels used to lock the verticals in place. I have seen discussions about thepluses and minuses of staples, nails, clamps, all of the above, and none ofthe above. So, after designing my wing rib jig for the THIRD time, I settled on the following.I used MDF, and nails with the heads cut off (got that from one of Tony Bingelis'articles and I liked the simplicity). I used the MDF, A sharpie to markthe wing rib outline, some nails, some pieces of wood to go where the sparswill sit, and three tubes of clamps from Harbor Freight. Oh, and of course, T88.I cut holes at the joints and cut a notch so I could use clamps instead ofstaples or nails. Mine may go down as the ugliest jig ever presented on thisforum, but I have included pictures of the end result in order to show you thatthe ribs match up quite well. And no staples or nails. The ribs hopefully oncecovered will not be seen for another 10-15 years or more, so I am not concernedthat they are not works of art. I can tell you, however, that they are strongas can be.I am sure you are wondering how I am going to take care of the gussets extendingpast the edge of the cap strips. I plan to either carefully use my trusty bandsawto remove the "proud " portion, or my router table with a flush bit. Anysuggestions are gladly accepted.Again, I just want some people to see that the beauty of the jig is not what makesstrong ribs. It is the quality of the rest of the work. Even if you are nota master woodworker, you can build this airplane, so GET STARTED!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/post ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:12:49 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
Thanks, George, I will check on it.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Thanks, George, I will check on it.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "tools"
Hi TerryTaxi on down to the Chinese Hardware Store (aka Harbor Freight) and get one oftheir bench-mounted belt sanders like 97181 ($79 on sale NOW), then take thatsilly guard off. You now have a VERY useful device for dressing all manor ofmaterial, from the little bits of plywood on ribs to smoothing the edges of 4130after cutting. Almost any similar belt sander will do. I have no great lovefor HF. The one thing to consider is the ability to take off the "guard" soyou have a flat, unencumbered belt to put the larger stuff (like ribs) on. These bench belt sanders really are a Swiss Army knife.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Hi TerryTaxi on down to the Chinese Hardware Store (aka Harbor Freight) and get one oftheir bench-mounted belt sanders like 97181 ($79 on sale NOW), then take thatsilly guard off. You now have a VERY useful device for dressing all manor ofmaterial, from the little bits of plywood on ribs to smoothing the edges of 4130after cutting. Almost any similar belt sander will do. I have no great lovefor HF. The one thing to consider is the ability to take off the "guard" soyou have a flat, unencumbered belt to put the larger stuff (like ribs) on. These bench belt sanders really are a Swiss Army knife.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Hey Terry!Nice looking jig!Search for laminate trimmer router bits. They're a flush cutting router bit withan end mounted bearing. Will work easiest in a router table, will have torun around one side and then flip over, but will go REALLY fast and effective.For the discerning craftsman, some of then will even put in a slight bevel...Designed to cut counter top laminates flush.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hey Terry!Nice looking jig!Search for laminate trimmer router bits. They're a flush cutting router bit withan end mounted bearing. Will work easiest in a router table, will have torun around one side and then flip over, but will go REALLY fast and effective.For the discerning craftsman, some of then will even put in a slight bevel...Designed to cut counter top laminates flush.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Terry I agree with Tools, very effective. Do a couple of "practice" runsbecause they cut a lot of wood very fast. Even with the taper bit you willstill need to touch the edges with a sander.Jack TextorDes Moines, IA-----Original Message-----
Terry I agree with Tools, very effective. Do a couple of "practice" runsbecause they cut a lot of wood very fast. Even with the taper bit you willstill need to touch the edges with a sander.Jack TextorDes Moines, IA-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Terry,You're not just inspiring those who have ribs to build. I love seeing and readingabout how others are doing things even I have already been there. Keep upthe posting, I'm enjoying it.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Terry,You're not just inspiring those who have ribs to build. I love seeing and readingabout how others are doing things even I have already been there. Keep upthe posting, I'm enjoying it.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "echobravo4"
jarheadpilot82 wrote:> Tools and Jack,> > I am inclined to use the flush router bit with my router and table. Fortunately,I have an unusable rib made from jig 1.0 that needs trimming. If I muck thatone up, no great loss. I was going to hang it on the wall, so no big deal.The router table and flush cut bit made my ribs look a professional built them.I find myself veering away from power tools as each assembly becomes more finishedas I have too much invested in the part at that point. I'm afraid a jerkor miss will rip them up You'll learn to use hand tools with more care andend up loving the way they work the wood without all the noise and dust. John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
jarheadpilot82 wrote:> Tools and Jack,> > I am inclined to use the flush router bit with my router and table. Fortunately,I have an unusable rib made from jig 1.0 that needs trimming. If I muck thatone up, no great loss. I was going to hang it on the wall, so no big deal.The router table and flush cut bit made my ribs look a professional built them.I find myself veering away from power tools as each assembly becomes more finishedas I have too much invested in the part at that point. I'm afraid a jerkor miss will rip them up You'll learn to use hand tools with more care andend up loving the way they work the wood without all the noise and dust. John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "tools"
I agree JohnThe disc/belt sander is great, but as things get closer to finishedThe planes and sanding blocks get more and more use--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
I agree JohnThe disc/belt sander is great, but as things get closer to finishedThe planes and sanding blocks get more and more use--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "biplan53"
Scout has one of those little flapper thingies on the end of the pitot to coverit when the airplane isn't moving through the air. Keeps rain and bugs out (orso they say).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Scout has one of those little flapper thingies on the end of the pitot to coverit when the airplane isn't moving through the air. Keeps rain and bugs out (orso they say).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Does anybody know if Bill Rewey's Piet is still for sale?Thanks, Fred--------Fred KimPittsburgh, PaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Does anybody know if Bill Rewey's Piet is still for sale?Thanks, Fred--------Fred KimPittsburgh, PaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Hey John,Where'd you get that great drill guide? I was wanting something like that but didn'tknow where to get one. I would love to get one like yours!Thanks for the info,MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Hey John,Where'd you get that great drill guide? I was wanting something like that but didn'tknow where to get one. I would love to get one like yours!Thanks for the info,MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Mark,You will find it here.http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page ... ------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Mark,You will find it here.http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page ... ------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: So Now What Do You Do With Them There Bent Strips?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark I got one at Harbor Freight for like $5 on sale...works great.http://textors.com/IMG_7514_1600x1067.jpg http://textors.com/IMG_7515_1600x1067.jpg Jack TextorDes Moines, IA-----Original Message-----
Mark I got one at Harbor Freight for like $5 on sale...works great.http://textors.com/IMG_7514_1600x1067.jpg http://textors.com/IMG_7515_1600x1067.jpg Jack TextorDes Moines, IA-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
I think that is what I was trying to say in my last two posts. Maybe in just alittle more tactful way.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:30:44 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
I think that is what I was trying to say in my last two posts. Maybe in just alittle more tactful way.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:30:44 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
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Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
If I can get my daughter to show me how to put some pictures on the internet, Iwill show you guys what I have been doing. I have 2 fuselages in the shop, onetube I am building and one wood I am going to build all the metal parts for.Right now I am trying to build a jig to hold the tailpost so I can weld it in.And get it straight!!--------Building steel fuselage aircamper.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
If I can get my daughter to show me how to put some pictures on the internet, Iwill show you guys what I have been doing. I have 2 fuselages in the shop, onetube I am building and one wood I am going to build all the metal parts for.Right now I am trying to build a jig to hold the tailpost so I can weld it in.And get it straight!!--------Building steel fuselage aircamper.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Ryan,Thanks for kudos! I really appreciate it.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...
Ryan,Thanks for kudos! I really appreciate it.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm motivated...