Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!Way to go Jack Textor in painting your Pietenpol motor mount white! Only afterI had painted mine black did I read the sectionTony Bingelis wrote on motor mount fabrication and he suggests to paint the mountswhite to make finding cracks easier. Brilliantbut I didn't do it. Smart move Jack and you're one of the very few who has caughtthat wisdom and applied it in your buildingprocess. It looks like you're doing exceptional work Jack and yours is another that I reallylook forward to seeing in the coming years at Brodhead. Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: Jack
Hey all,Regarding tail offset amounts. This has been gone over a few times and theamounts seem to range from1/4 to almost 1". I can say though, from myperusing the archives that nobody seems to have put in too much. Most guysend with the caveat "I still have to hold some rudder, but not as much."I did about 7/8" for my C90 and it is perfect. I'm sure all engine/propcombos will react a bit differently, but I say get about an inch, especiallyif you can change it with washers.I for one would also appreciate it if the feeling of negativity that I havesensed creeping in again (some of us started getting pretty negative about ayear ago if I remember correctly) over the last couple of months could bereduced. Maybe it's the stress of living in this country these days, butlet's try to keep this place friendly, upbeat, cheerful, lighthearted andeasy going.I certainly don't mean we don't express differing opinions or corrections,BUT sarcasm, condescension, pettiness or negativity don't need to be a partof the response.Sure makes for a nicer place to visit and promotes free-er communication.Remember what mama always said. "if you don't have something nice to say,don't say anything at all." Maybe that could be amended to "if you can'tsay what you have to say kindly or tactfully. don't say it, or don't starttyping until you can." We're all pretty smart people here. I'm sure if wetook a little time, we could phrase things so they land softly.$.02Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Hey all,Regarding tail offset amounts. This has been gone over a few times and theamounts seem to range from1/4 to almost 1". I can say though, from myperusing the archives that nobody seems to have put in too much. Most guysend with the caveat "I still have to hold some rudder, but not as much."I did about 7/8" for my C90 and it is perfect. I'm sure all engine/propcombos will react a bit differently, but I say get about an inch, especiallyif you can change it with washers.I for one would also appreciate it if the feeling of negativity that I havesensed creeping in again (some of us started getting pretty negative about ayear ago if I remember correctly) over the last couple of months could bereduced. Maybe it's the stress of living in this country these days, butlet's try to keep this place friendly, upbeat, cheerful, lighthearted andeasy going.I certainly don't mean we don't express differing opinions or corrections,BUT sarcasm, condescension, pettiness or negativity don't need to be a partof the response.Sure makes for a nicer place to visit and promotes free-er communication.Remember what mama always said. "if you don't have something nice to say,don't say anything at all." Maybe that could be amended to "if you can'tsay what you have to say kindly or tactfully. don't say it, or don't starttyping until you can." We're all pretty smart people here. I'm sure if wetook a little time, we could phrase things so they land softly.$.02Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!me toooo ;o))))) all the iron pieces in white..[image: Im=E1genes integradas 1]Mario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/27 Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] > Partners, LLC]" >> Way to go Jack Textor in painting your Pietenpol motor mount white! Only> after I had painted mine black did I read the section> Tony Bingelis wrote on motor mount fabrication and he suggests to paint> the mounts white to make finding cracks easier. Brilliant> but I didn't do it. Smart move Jack and you're one of the very few who> has caught that wisdom and applied it in your building> process.>> It looks like you're doing exceptional work Jack and yours is another that> I really look forward to seeing in the coming years at Brodhead.>> Mike C.>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!me toooo ;o))))) all the iron pieces in white..[image: Im=E1genes integradas 1]Mario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/27 Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] > Partners, LLC]" >> Way to go Jack Textor in painting your Pietenpol motor mount white! Only> after I had painted mine black did I read the section> Tony Bingelis wrote on motor mount fabrication and he suggests to paint> the mounts white to make finding cracks easier. Brilliant> but I didn't do it. Smart move Jack and you're one of the very few who> has caught that wisdom and applied it in your building> process.>> It looks like you're doing exceptional work Jack and yours is another that> I really look forward to seeing in the coming years at Brodhead.>> Mike C.>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!Wow-Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!!For those of you who might not know, Mario is from Uruguay, South America and is probably the onlyPietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario!Mike C.(PS-in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay because I had no idea wherein the world it was located...thank you for the geography lesson.)[cid:image001.png(at)01CE14D9.C9687D10]
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!Wow-Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!!For those of you who might not know, Mario is from Uruguay, South America and is probably the onlyPietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario!Mike C.(PS-in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay because I had no idea wherein the world it was located...thank you for the geography lesson.)[cid:image001.png(at)01CE14D9.C9687D10]
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By:>> ** owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!Thank you Ken, nice to hear some words from you there because this job ismaking me crazy. I thought two times in end it, I am going to see how muchI can do this year, and then decide, it is to big, I knew in the begininthat it would be hard, but is not hard, it's very, very hard.regardsMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/27 Ken Bickers > Mario,>> Congratulations on the progress. Sometime it would be great to hear how> you decided to build a Pietenpol and the challenges you've faced building> your project in Uruguay.>> Also, should you be able to come to Brodhead one of these days, we> definitely would need to do something special to recognize your commitment> and perseverance.>> Cheers, Ken>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage> Partners, LLC] wrote:>>> Wow=97Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!! ****>>>> ** **>>>> For those of you who might not know, Mario is from Uruguay, South America>> and is probably the only****>>>> Pietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario! ****>>>> ** **>>>> Mike C.****>>>> (PS=97in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay>> because I had no idea where ****>>>> in the world it was located=85thank you for the geography lesson.) ****>>>> ** **>>>> ****>>>> ** **>>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!Thank you Ken, nice to hear some words from you there because this job ismaking me crazy. I thought two times in end it, I am going to see how muchI can do this year, and then decide, it is to big, I knew in the begininthat it would be hard, but is not hard, it's very, very hard.regardsMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2013/2/27 Ken Bickers > Mario,>> Congratulations on the progress. Sometime it would be great to hear how> you decided to build a Pietenpol and the challenges you've faced building> your project in Uruguay.>> Also, should you be able to come to Brodhead one of these days, we> definitely would need to do something special to recognize your commitment> and perseverance.>> Cheers, Ken>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage> Partners, LLC] wrote:>>> Wow=97Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!! ****>>>> ** **>>>> For those of you who might not know, Mario is from Uruguay, South America>> and is probably the only****>>>> Pietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario! ****>>>> ** **>>>> Mike C.****>>>> (PS=97in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay>> because I had no idea where ****>>>> in the world it was located=85thank you for the geography lesson.) ****>>>> ** **>>>> ****>>>> ** **>>
Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
Ken, I don't know if you saw Gary's post to me suggesting 3/4 inch displacement of the fin. That's going to cause me a bit more design and steel fitting construction. Chuck----- Original Message -----
Ken, I don't know if you saw Gary's post to me suggesting 3/4 inch displacement of the fin. That's going to cause me a bit more design and steel fitting construction. Chuck----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: Rick
Subject: Pietenpol-List: powder coating is almost impossible to removeGuys-just a quick note. I tried to repair a riding tractor part (cracked part) by TIG welding but after beadand sand blasting I couldn't touch the surfaces that needed to be cleaned hardly at all to get the paint off tomake a clean weld because the part was powder coated.Just passing along what I found. Hopefully none of our Piet parts (painted with spray or powder coated) will everfail or need to be repaired but that was my experience with my riding mower.And truthfully after 15 years of flying my Piet there isn't one part that I wish I powder coated. I just did a very good jobof bead blasting, priming, and then painting conventionally. I must say the finish is pretty nice on those powder coatedparts though but it just never appealed to me enough to do it.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Subject: Pietenpol-List: powder coating is almost impossible to removeGuys-just a quick note. I tried to repair a riding tractor part (cracked part) by TIG welding but after beadand sand blasting I couldn't touch the surfaces that needed to be cleaned hardly at all to get the paint off tomake a clean weld because the part was powder coated.Just passing along what I found. Hopefully none of our Piet parts (painted with spray or powder coated) will everfail or need to be repaired but that was my experience with my riding mower.And truthfully after 15 years of flying my Piet there isn't one part that I wish I powder coated. I just did a very good jobof bead blasting, priming, and then painting conventionally. I must say the finish is pretty nice on those powder coatedparts though but it just never appealed to me enough to do it.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!
Original Posted By: michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov
If none of you have been to Uruguay=2C I highly recommend it. A little far for a Pietenpol=2C but whatever you fly to get there=2C it is well worth it. I had a Foreign exchange student from there and we had visited several times and We love it! If you want to know more=2C email me off-list and I will be happy to let you know anything about visiting this wonderful country!Max
If none of you have been to Uruguay=2C I highly recommend it. A little far for a Pietenpol=2C but whatever you fly to get there=2C it is well worth it. I had a Foreign exchange student from there and we had visited several times and We love it! If you want to know more=2C email me off-list and I will be happy to let you know anything about visiting this wonderful country!Max
Re: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's book
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Original Posted By: CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
Mario,I don't know how long you have been at it but don't give up. I will have been atmine now for 10 years next month. If all goes well I will be flying this summer.There have been times when life seems to gotten in the way but you just haveto plod along. The Matronics list as well as the friendships that have developedfrom Brodhead certainly has helped. Regards,Rick Schreiber Valparaiso INSent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________
Mario,I don't know how long you have been at it but don't give up. I will have been atmine now for 10 years next month. If all goes well I will be flying this summer.There have been times when life seems to gotten in the way but you just haveto plod along. The Matronics list as well as the friendships that have developedfrom Brodhead certainly has helped. Regards,Rick Schreiber Valparaiso INSent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: powder coating is almost impossible to remove
Original Posted By: Andrew Eldredge
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: powder coating is almost impossible to remove
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: powder coating is almost impossible to remove
>>>> Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows
Original Posted By:>>>>> TOM STINEMETZE >>> Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows>>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, my bad. A Corvair normally turns clockwise when viewed from >>>>> the>>>>> front.>>>>>>>>>> Stinemetze>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" >>>>>>> NGB">>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which way does a crank snapper rotate?>>>>>>>>>> Normally a plane in climb with a real engine (I am a contenental >>>>> snob.)>>>>> climbs with the prop pushing more air in the right side than the left >>>>> due>>>>>>>> to the relative angle of the blade to the wind. Resulting in cooler >>>>> temps>>>>>>>> on the right side.>>>>>>>>>> Blue Skies,>>>>> Steve D>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows
Original Posted By: "Robert Dewenter"
>>>>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows>>>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Barry and Rick:>>>>> >>>>>> > I recall reading a post by William Wynne where he discusses the>>>>> > advantages of having the two eyebrow areas interconnected for more>>>>> > balanced>>>>> > cooling. I don't remember all of his reasoning but it included>>>>> > the cooling difference per inlet in a climb attitude caused by the>>>>> > reduced pitch of the upward moving blade compared to the increased>>>>> > pitch of the downward moving blade. As a consequence, the hottest>>>>> > side of the Corvair engine in the highest power regime (climb) is>>>>> > the right cylinder bank which is where detonation normally occurs>>>>> > first. He suggested, at the very least, connecting the two sides>>>>> > via a scat tube to allow the higher pressure side to help cool the>>>>> > lower pressure side.>>>>> >>>>>> > Has anybody on the list tried this?>>>>> >>>>>> > Tom Stinemetze>>>>> > N328X>>>>> > McPherson, KS.>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: corvair eyebrows>>>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Barry and Rick:>>>>> >>>>>> > I recall reading a post by William Wynne where he discusses the>>>>> > advantages of having the two eyebrow areas interconnected for more>>>>> > balanced>>>>> > cooling. I don't remember all of his reasoning but it included>>>>> > the cooling difference per inlet in a climb attitude caused by the>>>>> > reduced pitch of the upward moving blade compared to the increased>>>>> > pitch of the downward moving blade. As a consequence, the hottest>>>>> > side of the Corvair engine in the highest power regime (climb) is>>>>> > the right cylinder bank which is where detonation normally occurs>>>>> > first. He suggested, at the very least, connecting the two sides>>>>> > via a scat tube to allow the higher pressure side to help cool the>>>>> > lower pressure side.>>>>> >>>>>> > Has anybody on the list tried this?>>>>> >>>>>> > Tom Stinemetze>>>>> > N328X>>>>> > McPherson, KS.>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's book
Original Posted By:the geography lesson.) owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!=0AWow=97Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!! For those of you who might not know=2C Mario is from Uruguay=2C South America and is probably the onlyPietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario! Mike C.(PS=97in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay because I had no idea where in the world it was located=85thank you for
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jack Textor actually read my Uncle Tony's books!=0AWow=97Most excellent Mario!!!!! Looks GREAT!!! For those of you who might not know=2C Mario is from Uruguay=2C South America and is probably the onlyPietenpol in existence in Uruguay. Really impressive Mario! Mike C.(PS=97in talking with Mario off-list I actually had to Google Map Uruguay because I had no idea where in the world it was located=85thank you for