Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
You have to cover your plane with something transparent like mylar...--------Mario GiacummoPhotos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Off-topic but related
Pietenpol-List: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hi Guys,Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Guys,Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Use construction adhesive in 24oz tubes.GarySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2013, at 6:56 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Hi Guys,> > Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.> > > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Use construction adhesive in 24oz tubes.GarySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2013, at 6:56 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Hi Guys,> > Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.> > > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Almost Finished With Wing Ribs
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mine are glued MarioSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> Hi,> > About gluing the ribs to the spars... I've glued them all, but I ask, It is common to leave them "free"?.. In the leading and trailng edge they have to be glued, so....why not glue them over/down the spars? once they are glued to the edges, you can not move them to anywhere.> > mario> > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > 2013/3/12 Jack Phillips s.com>> > Terry, I didn't glue my ribs to the spar at all. They are nailed through> the capstrip but not glued. It is useful to be able to slide them slightly> left or right to help clear the drag and anti-drag wires, and it is best to> not have them free to move slightly for trammeling the wing. Once the rib> lacing is in place they cannot move anyway.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
Mine are glued MarioSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> Hi,> > About gluing the ribs to the spars... I've glued them all, but I ask, It is common to leave them "free"?.. In the leading and trailng edge they have to be glued, so....why not glue them over/down the spars? once they are glued to the edges, you can not move them to anywhere.> > mario> > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > 2013/3/12 Jack Phillips s.com>> > Terry, I didn't glue my ribs to the spar at all. They are nailed through> the capstrip but not glued. It is useful to be able to slide them slightly> left or right to help clear the drag and anti-drag wires, and it is best to> not have them free to move slightly for trammeling the wing. Once the rib> lacing is in place they cannot move anyway.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: Rick Schreiber
Use deck screws Dan . That will keep the wood from twisting. That is what aim doing right now. gardinerSent from my iPadOn Mar 12, 2013, at 9:56 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Hi Guys,> > Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.> > > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:57:49 -0500
Use deck screws Dan . That will keep the wood from twisting. That is what aim doing right now. gardinerSent from my iPadOn Mar 12, 2013, at 9:56 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> Hi Guys,> > Does anyone know if waterproof glue will stick to pressure-treated construction wood? This will be outside all the time. Fence components that will be nailed together and if I can get glue to stick it will keep them from twisting nine ways to Sunday.> > > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:57:49 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: Hans van der Voort
Pietenpol-List: Re: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: "tools"
Terry, They will be fine if just kept indoors and dry. It would be difficult to notvarnish the areas that you will apply glue later. It's not just the area thatis attached to the spars but what about the trailing and leading edges? Or theplywood on the leading edge? And how about all the cutting and gluing requiredwhen the ailerons are built and cut out. It is just too complicated andnot worth the effort in my opinion.--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off-topic but related
Terry, They will be fine if just kept indoors and dry. It would be difficult to notvarnish the areas that you will apply glue later. It's not just the area thatis attached to the spars but what about the trailing and leading edges? Or theplywood on the leading edge? And how about all the cutting and gluing requiredwhen the ailerons are built and cut out. It is just too complicated andnot worth the effort in my opinion.--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off-topic but related
Original Posted By: "Chris"
If the wood is dry enough, the glue will do as well as it can...By that I mean, wood outside, not REALLY well sealed, will move seasonally as muchas wood can. If any of these fence components are attached at right angles(and likely they are), the joints WILL fail, regardless of how well the gluetakes hold. Even indoors, it's inevitable, reference dowel joints. Just assure as nails will eventually back themselves out. I've repaired LOTS of chairs made with dowel joinery. The nature of the jointmakes sure that is going to happen, unless it's kept at a very steady humiditylevel. You are better off with deck screws as mentioned. If the wood grain is aligned, it's hit or miss. If you have edges of boards gluedup that are all similar in grain orientation, they might survive. If youhave quartersawn glued to flat sawn (for example), you have differential expansionrates, and the joint will fail.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
If the wood is dry enough, the glue will do as well as it can...By that I mean, wood outside, not REALLY well sealed, will move seasonally as muchas wood can. If any of these fence components are attached at right angles(and likely they are), the joints WILL fail, regardless of how well the gluetakes hold. Even indoors, it's inevitable, reference dowel joints. Just assure as nails will eventually back themselves out. I've repaired LOTS of chairs made with dowel joinery. The nature of the jointmakes sure that is going to happen, unless it's kept at a very steady humiditylevel. You are better off with deck screws as mentioned. If the wood grain is aligned, it's hit or miss. If you have edges of boards gluedup that are all similar in grain orientation, they might survive. If youhave quartersawn glued to flat sawn (for example), you have differential expansionrates, and the joint will fail.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________