Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: An InquiryHi Pieters,My name is Claude Corbett also identified as Corky by some of the older members of this net. I came on the scene in 2000. Had my plans purchased since 1989. While searching for a rebuildable Model A or B engine I encountered a pitiful looking T Model. Bought it and spent the nineties rebuilding Ts and Four cyl Dodge Bros. Finally in 2000 I decided to begin Pieting only to find my plans were for a GN. Disposed of those and bought the package from Mr Pietenpol. Ordered my wood, douglas fir, and began milling it to size when suddenly one morning in July I read an e mail where this Pieter in Zion, Il was selling hi project. Made a telephone deal with Mr Joe Chapliski and was in business. Zionisn't across the street from Shreveport, La.Got busy and finished the Piet, NX41CC, now owned by Mr Oscar Zuniga of Medford ,Oregon.I flew it the last time at the age of 81. Beautiful little bird even if I say so.Now I know if there are any readers still looking are wondering "what's this old fart writing about"? Well I'll just lay it out in 1 2 3 order1 Wife in nursing home2 Am living in an apartment with adequate space for a work bench3 Needing some project to keep me from losing my "willies". I've always had to be building.I've thought about many options and the best I've come up with is to build sets of wing ribs. It would help those short of building and get them in the air much sooner. I have no idea if there is even a need or demand for such a service as that is the purpose of this epistle. >From my little experience I would prefer using the high quality douglas fir I've found from a company in Port Townsend, Wa. Less expensive and hardly any heavier than spruce while stronger. Instead of 1/2 X 1/4 cap strip I would prefer 7/16X 1/4 on vertical grain. Lighter, stronger and somewhat less expensive. However, I could and would build to one's specs.Now for the tariff. I have not the slightest clue. I can only say that I'm not a rich man and not a poor man and a profit is the least motive. I'm looking for a project to keep this young 90 yr old out of trouble.Will you be so kind as to express you thoughts on this subject without any commitments. I will be most appreciative.Yours in a PietCorky318 734 0386318 455 7435_Isablcorky(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Isablcorky(at)aol.com) I will name several references without their prior approval,Oscar ZunigaMike Cuy________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
RE: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hey Corky! Good to hear you're alive and kicking. Sorry to hear your brideis in a nursing home, though. Did you ever get that L-3 Aeronca Defender flying?Any chance you'll be able to make it to Brodhead this summer? I'll bet ifyou did, and brought a couple of sets of ribs with you, you could sell thempretty easily. Since Charlie Rubeck is no longer making rib sets, I thinkyou'll find a ready market. I don't remember what he charged, but his ribswere well made and were sought after.Keep in touch, and try to make Brodhead this year. There are going to be anumber of new Pietenpols there for the first time this year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Hey Corky! Good to hear you're alive and kicking. Sorry to hear your brideis in a nursing home, though. Did you ever get that L-3 Aeronca Defender flying?Any chance you'll be able to make it to Brodhead this summer? I'll bet ifyou did, and brought a couple of sets of ribs with you, you could sell thempretty easily. Since Charlie Rubeck is no longer making rib sets, I thinkyou'll find a ready market. I don't remember what he charged, but his ribswere well made and were sought after.Keep in touch, and try to make Brodhead this year. There are going to be anumber of new Pietenpols there for the first time this year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/6/2013 1:46:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jack(at)bedfordlandings.com writes:Hey Corky! Good to hear you=99re alive and kicking. Sorry to hear your bride is in a nursing home, though. Did you ever get that L-3 Aeronca Defender flying? Any chance you=99ll be able to make it to Brodhead this summer? I=99ll bet if you did, and brought a couple of sets of ribs with you, you could sellthem pretty easily. Since Charlie Rubeck is no longer making rib sets, Ithink you=99ll find a ready market. I don=99t remember what he charged, but his ribs were well made and were sought after. Keep in touch, and try to make Brodhead this year. There are going to bea number of new Pietenpols there for the first time this year. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ____________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/6/2013 1:46:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jack(at)bedfordlandings.com writes:Hey Corky! Good to hear you=99re alive and kicking. Sorry to hear your bride is in a nursing home, though. Did you ever get that L-3 Aeronca Defender flying? Any chance you=99ll be able to make it to Brodhead this summer? I=99ll bet if you did, and brought a couple of sets of ribs with you, you could sellthem pretty easily. Since Charlie Rubeck is no longer making rib sets, Ithink you=99ll find a ready market. I don=99t remember what he charged, but his ribs were well made and were sought after. Keep in touch, and try to make Brodhead this year. There are going to bea number of new Pietenpols there for the first time this year. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ____________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet project for sale
Original Posted By: "899PM"
Corky; how could we forget you? Sorry to hear about Isabelle, but we do hope thatshe is receiving good care and only hope to do as well and live as long asyou and she have.To the best of my recollection, Charlie Rubeck was selling his sets of ribs for$300. I believe there are 29 ribs from tip to tip so if we call it 30 ribs total(one to keep for a template for future repairs), you're looking at $10 arib, sell price.Greetings from the green Pacific Northwest! I hope to be flying Scout as soonas I can get the wings back on and get a condition inspection.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet project for sale
Corky; how could we forget you? Sorry to hear about Isabelle, but we do hope thatshe is receiving good care and only hope to do as well and live as long asyou and she have.To the best of my recollection, Charlie Rubeck was selling his sets of ribs for$300. I believe there are 29 ribs from tip to tip so if we call it 30 ribs total(one to keep for a template for future repairs), you're looking at $10 arib, sell price.Greetings from the green Pacific Northwest! I hope to be flying Scout as soonas I can get the wings back on and get a condition inspection.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet project for sale
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
SOLD.I will miss a lot of you guys. Happy Landings!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 03:04:50 +0000 (UTC)
SOLD.I will miss a lot of you guys. Happy Landings!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 03:04:50 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
I also bought a set of ribs from Charlie Rubeck in the late 1980s. I did it to =9Cblackmail=9D myself into starting on the project. I figured if I had the $200 (at that time) tied up in ribs I would continue on with the project. I stopped in Minneapolis at a boat builders lumber yard and bought spruce for the rest of the airplane on the way home to South Dakota. It worked although I haven=99t finished the plane the wood construction in done. Charlie included a note indicating he used western cedar (he told me he bought barn siding to rip into pieces), AirAlite glue, 1410 pieces of wood and plywood (I believed him, I didn=99t count them) and 3000 staples (which he removed). The extra rib is a fine wall hanging and I used it for the pattern for the nose and tail ribs of the center section. I figured he saved me most of a winters work. I felt confident they were done right. I enjoyed many helpful conversations with Charlie in the following years.Spring has finally arrived in SD. The snow is gone. I pulled the skis off of the Chief. I hope to get back to my unheated garage and continue my Piet soon.Ralph Hurlbert________________________________________________________________________________
I also bought a set of ribs from Charlie Rubeck in the late 1980s. I did it to =9Cblackmail=9D myself into starting on the project. I figured if I had the $200 (at that time) tied up in ribs I would continue on with the project. I stopped in Minneapolis at a boat builders lumber yard and bought spruce for the rest of the airplane on the way home to South Dakota. It worked although I haven=99t finished the plane the wood construction in done. Charlie included a note indicating he used western cedar (he told me he bought barn siding to rip into pieces), AirAlite glue, 1410 pieces of wood and plywood (I believed him, I didn=99t count them) and 3000 staples (which he removed). The extra rib is a fine wall hanging and I used it for the pattern for the nose and tail ribs of the center section. I figured he saved me most of a winters work. I felt confident they were done right. I enjoyed many helpful conversations with Charlie in the following years.Spring has finally arrived in SD. The snow is gone. I pulled the skis off of the Chief. I hope to get back to my unheated garage and continue my Piet soon.Ralph Hurlbert________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: "Dick N"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/7/2013 9:45:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ralphhsd(at)itctel.com writes:I also bought a set of ribs from Charlie Rubeck in the late 1980s. I didit to =9Cblackmail=9D myself into starting on the project. I figured if I had the $200 (at that time) tied up in ribs I would continue on with the project. I stopped in Minneapolis at a boat builders lumber yard and bought spruce for the rest of the airplane on the way home to South Dakota. Itworked although I haven=99t finished the plane the wood construction in done. Charlie included a note indicating he used western cedar (he told me he bought barn siding to rip into pieces), AirAlite glue, 1410 pieces of wood and plywood (I believed him, I didn=99t count them) and 3000 staples (which he removed). The extra rib is a fine wall hanging and I used it for the pattern for the nose and tail ribs of the center section. I figured he saved memost of a winters work. I felt confident they were done right. I enjoyedmany helpful conversations with Charlie in the following years.Spring has finally arrived in SD. The snow is gone. I pulled the skis off of the Chief. I hope to get back to my unheated garage and continue my Piet soon.Ralph HurlbertI didn't know Mr Roebuck. Hope the spring weather will encourage you toget busy toward a finished Piet. It was such a milestone in my life even atthat advanced age. I've often compared the building techniques, skills, and applied allied arts necessary in building an aircraft to an advanced degree or higher. Keep in touch if I can help. Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/7/2013 9:45:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ralphhsd(at)itctel.com writes:I also bought a set of ribs from Charlie Rubeck in the late 1980s. I didit to =9Cblackmail=9D myself into starting on the project. I figured if I had the $200 (at that time) tied up in ribs I would continue on with the project. I stopped in Minneapolis at a boat builders lumber yard and bought spruce for the rest of the airplane on the way home to South Dakota. Itworked although I haven=99t finished the plane the wood construction in done. Charlie included a note indicating he used western cedar (he told me he bought barn siding to rip into pieces), AirAlite glue, 1410 pieces of wood and plywood (I believed him, I didn=99t count them) and 3000 staples (which he removed). The extra rib is a fine wall hanging and I used it for the pattern for the nose and tail ribs of the center section. I figured he saved memost of a winters work. I felt confident they were done right. I enjoyedmany helpful conversations with Charlie in the following years.Spring has finally arrived in SD. The snow is gone. I pulled the skis off of the Chief. I hope to get back to my unheated garage and continue my Piet soon.Ralph HurlbertI didn't know Mr Roebuck. Hope the spring weather will encourage you toget busy toward a finished Piet. It was such a milestone in my life even atthat advanced age. I've often compared the building techniques, skills, and applied allied arts necessary in building an aircraft to an advanced degree or higher. Keep in touch if I can help. Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: Ralph
Hi Ralph Where in MPLS is the boat builders lumber yard? I havent seen it. Dick N. St. Paul, MN. ----- Original Message -----
Hi Ralph Where in MPLS is the boat builders lumber yard? I havent seen it. Dick N. St. Paul, MN. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: "Ralph"
Hi Dick,I think the name of the lumberyard I went to was something like Youngblood=99s. Some one at Brodhead had told me about it saying it was where canoe and other wood boat builders bought their lumber. It was a lot of years ago but it seems like it was in north central area of Minneapolis. They had just gotten in a shipment of sitka spruce and I could pick through for what I wanted. There was very straight grain 1=9D by 6=9D (full size) boards about 16 feet long. I hauled it on top of my Dodge caravan and had to leave my camper in my cousins yard north of Stillwater to haul my lumber home. It is amazing how your priorities change when you are in the early stages of airplane construction.Ralph ________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Dick,I think the name of the lumberyard I went to was something like Youngblood=99s. Some one at Brodhead had told me about it saying it was where canoe and other wood boat builders bought their lumber. It was a lot of years ago but it seems like it was in north central area of Minneapolis. They had just gotten in a shipment of sitka spruce and I could pick through for what I wanted. There was very straight grain 1=9D by 6=9D (full size) boards about 16 feet long. I hauled it on top of my Dodge caravan and had to leave my camper in my cousins yard north of Stillwater to haul my lumber home. It is amazing how your priorities change when you are in the early stages of airplane construction.Ralph ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: "Perry Rhoads"
Hi Jim,I plan on being at Brodhead this summer. I=99ve only missed a couple years since the mid 80s. I hope you will stop at Raymond if you get the chance when you go through.Ralph________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Jim,I plan on being at Brodhead this summer. I=99ve only missed a couple years since the mid 80s. I hope you will stop at Raymond if you get the chance when you go through.Ralph________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Bump
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
I completed the pull test on N12939 yesterday. My 3 cylinder( one cylinder seems to be there only to make the engine look symmetrical) A-65 with McCauley metal prop, pulled a consistent 325 lbs. A few pulls were stronger, but 325 seemed to be consistent.As soon as I get back from SunNFun I can ship the scale to the next person. I truly appreciate being able to use the "Official" scale. Thanks, Dan !!Perry RhoadsN12939________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:49:35 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Bump
I completed the pull test on N12939 yesterday. My 3 cylinder( one cylinder seems to be there only to make the engine look symmetrical) A-65 with McCauley metal prop, pulled a consistent 325 lbs. A few pulls were stronger, but 325 seemed to be consistent.As soon as I get back from SunNFun I can ship the scale to the next person. I truly appreciate being able to use the "Official" scale. Thanks, Dan !!Perry RhoadsN12939________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:49:35 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Bump
Pietenpol-List: Re: Straight Axel advise
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
I have decided that the fit should be lose so as not to bind, not sure how losebut I did find some tubing to weld into the Axel that is 1/2" diam. X .065 wallX 7 1/4" long that seem they would work well and leave at least 2.75" travelfor the Axel. So now I need to did a bit more around the garage for the shorttubes to weld to the gear fittings.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I have decided that the fit should be lose so as not to bind, not sure how losebut I did find some tubing to weld into the Axel that is 1/2" diam. X .065 wallX 7 1/4" long that seem they would work well and leave at least 2.75" travelfor the Axel. So now I need to did a bit more around the garage for the shorttubes to weld to the gear fittings.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Ray,I'm on the road, and my memory a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure the front cabanesare 1" longer than the rear.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about 1/4"incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about 1/4" tallerthan the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine today.> > Thanks,> > Ray Krause> SkyScout> > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Ray,I'm on the road, and my memory a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure the front cabanesare 1" longer than the rear.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about 1/4"incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about 1/4" tallerthan the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine today.> > Thanks,> > Ray Krause> SkyScout> > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Ray,I think most builders are just following the plans. And for the Air Camper, thatmeans the front cabanes are 1" longer than the back. But if the Sky Scoutplans show equal length front and back, it would seem logical to make the cabanesfor the Sky Scout equal in length.When all else fails, read the instructions.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Ray,I think most builders are just following the plans. And for the Air Camper, thatmeans the front cabanes are 1" longer than the back. But if the Sky Scoutplans show equal length front and back, it would seem logical to make the cabanesfor the Sky Scout equal in length.When all else fails, read the instructions.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/9/2013 7:38:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, airlion2(at)gmail.com writes:Would you be making the 612 also? I am asking for someone else. GardinerSent from my iPadOn Apr 8, 2013, at 9:57 PM, _Isablcorky(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Isablcorky(at)aol.com) wrote:In a message dated 4/8/2013 7:25:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com_ (mailto:jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com) writes:Corky,I kinda' like the name "Corky's Rib Shack" for the title of your business.Just a thought.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#398179In all my years I've probably been called everything so these new business names are welcome.No I'm no Semper Fi but I do go back to OCS, Ft Benning 1943Keep those names coming, Also, if any might have an idea on the best way to box a set of ribs for shipment lets have it.CorkyD=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") D=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") D=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") D=========CouldCorky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: An InquiryIn a message dated 4/9/2013 7:38:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, airlion2(at)gmail.com writes:Would you be making the 612 also? I am asking for someone else. GardinerSent from my iPadOn Apr 8, 2013, at 9:57 PM, _Isablcorky(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Isablcorky(at)aol.com) wrote:In a message dated 4/8/2013 7:25:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com_ (mailto:jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com) writes:Corky,I kinda' like the name "Corky's Rib Shack" for the title of your business.Just a thought.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#398179In all my years I've probably been called everything so these new business names are welcome.No I'm no Semper Fi but I do go back to OCS, Ft Benning 1943Keep those names coming, Also, if any might have an idea on the best way to box a set of ribs for shipment lets have it.CorkyD=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") D=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") D=========(mip://014ab450/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") D=========CouldCorky________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: An Inquiry
Original Posted By: Ralph
Thanks ralphI didnt realize Youngbloods was carrying sitka spruce again. They are a very good yard, when I get home I will check them out.ThanksDick N. ----- Original Message -----
Thanks ralphI didnt realize Youngbloods was carrying sitka spruce again. They are a very good yard, when I get home I will check them out.ThanksDick N. ----- Original Message -----