Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
It was an awesome day in Texas for flying the GN-1. It will be all week. I gotthis close up of a buzzard off my wing tip..--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bird ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Autumn Flt
Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Hey all,For fun, I'm building an experimental high-mileage vehicle. It'll be amotor powered recumbent trike type of thing with an aerodynamic fairing.I'm trying to figure out a simple, low profile front suspension (twosteering wheels in front). The thing won't go faster than 50mpg so itdoesn't need to be great, just sturdy. I got to thinking of a flat spring aluminum plate that would have somespring in it, kind of like a Cessna gear and wondered if anyone knewanything about how to get spring temper in a thick aluminum plate/bar?Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
Hey all,For fun, I'm building an experimental high-mileage vehicle. It'll be amotor powered recumbent trike type of thing with an aerodynamic fairing.I'm trying to figure out a simple, low profile front suspension (twosteering wheels in front). The thing won't go faster than 50mpg so itdoesn't need to be great, just sturdy. I got to thinking of a flat spring aluminum plate that would have somespring in it, kind of like a Cessna gear and wondered if anyone knewanything about how to get spring temper in a thick aluminum plate/bar?Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
He probably thought you were his mommy flying around. He kinda looks lost.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
He probably thought you were his mommy flying around. He kinda looks lost.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Autumn Flt
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Buzzard? Shoot, where I come from we call them critters "mosquitoes"--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Buzzard? Shoot, where I come from we call them critters "mosquitoes"--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: side project
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
=93I knew a guy=85=94Seriously, I knew a guy who was building a Zenith 601 HDS and modifying theplans gear to an aluminum spring gear=85like a Cessna. He used =BD=94 6061 andmerely bent it in a press. He flew off the Phase 1 testing, but sold theplane sometime after that. All was working good when he sold it. He claimedthat there was no heat treating and that the gear merely relies on its massto withstand any landing pressures.Gary BootheNX308MB
=93I knew a guy=85=94Seriously, I knew a guy who was building a Zenith 601 HDS and modifying theplans gear to an aluminum spring gear=85like a Cessna. He used =BD=94 6061 andmerely bent it in a press. He flew off the Phase 1 testing, but sold theplane sometime after that. All was working good when he sold it. He claimedthat there was no heat treating and that the gear merely relies on its massto withstand any landing pressures.Gary BootheNX308MB
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Really Gary,No questions??? I will try anyway. What is the current wingspan on your Pietenpol?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Really Gary,No questions??? I will try anyway. What is the current wingspan on your Pietenpol?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
It is currently 29', but I have a wing stretcher employed and hope to gainanother foot or so...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
It is currently 29', but I have a wing stretcher employed and hope to gainanother foot or so...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
I couldn't resist and knew you had the answer? Have a great day.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I couldn't resist and knew you had the answer? Have a great day.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: side project
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Hey,I have some aerodynamic questions about my new project and know we have afew very knowledgeable aerodynamicists out there.Would anyone with specialized knowledge contact me offline so I could run myquandries by an expert?Thanks!!Douwedouweblumberg(at)earthlink.net805 573 3564 cell in KY________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: side project
Hey,I have some aerodynamic questions about my new project and know we have afew very knowledgeable aerodynamicists out there.Would anyone with specialized knowledge contact me offline so I could run myquandries by an expert?Thanks!!Douwedouweblumberg(at)earthlink.net805 573 3564 cell in KY________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: side project
Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Original Posted By: "regchief"
I don't know how I missed the obvious? Where did you find the Black and Whitefilm?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
I don't know how I missed the obvious? Where did you find the Black and Whitefilm?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Who is going to be flying out of meadowlake, Ken, or Rick. Either way, I wouldlove to see a Piet fly, and I am in Pueblo. Shoot me a line if you could.KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:12:50 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Who is going to be flying out of meadowlake, Ken, or Rick. Either way, I wouldlove to see a Piet fly, and I am in Pueblo. Shoot me a line if you could.KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:12:50 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: just right--- 85 years running
Re: Pietenpol-List: side project
Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
Google =9COptima Rhino=9D for a trike front suspension using a pivot and cane creek shock absorbers. I know its not what you were asking, but Grove Aircraft might be a source of info. Also, the PDQ-2 airplane which was designed by Wayne Ison in the 70=99s was a square 2=9D aluminum tube ultralight before there were such things, used a bent flat spring of 6061 T6 aluminum which was about 3/4=9D thick. Hope this helps. By the way, Rich Richardson used to build an aluminum trike, the design is now being made available by googleing Rontor trikes for spindle designs.Dennis
Google =9COptima Rhino=9D for a trike front suspension using a pivot and cane creek shock absorbers. I know its not what you were asking, but Grove Aircraft might be a source of info. Also, the PDQ-2 airplane which was designed by Wayne Ison in the 70=99s was a square 2=9D aluminum tube ultralight before there were such things, used a bent flat spring of 6061 T6 aluminum which was about 3/4=9D thick. Hope this helps. By the way, Rich Richardson used to build an aluminum trike, the design is now being made available by googleing Rontor trikes for spindle designs.Dennis
Pietenpol-List: Re: side project
Original Posted By: "Ralph"
Douwe,Read your post and the image that jumped into my mind was the three wheel Vespa.Check out vespausa.com and look at the independent front suspension on theirthree wheeler. Way Cool !DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Douwe,Read your post and the image that jumped into my mind was the three wheel Vespa.Check out vespausa.com and look at the independent front suspension on theirthree wheeler. Way Cool !DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: side project
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
High Mileage Vehicles in Burnsville, MN built the Freeway in 1979 =93 1981. They built about 700 units. I have a 1981. The front suspension is a torque tube arrangement. Google =9CFreeway=9D to get a look.Ralph ________________________________________________________________________________
High Mileage Vehicles in Burnsville, MN built the Freeway in 1979 =93 1981. They built about 700 units. I have a 1981. The front suspension is a torque tube arrangement. Google =9CFreeway=9D to get a look.Ralph ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: side project
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
DouweI have a set of Grove alum landing gear taking up room in my shop. I wouldtake a couple of hundred bucks for it and you could cut it up as needed. Ifyou are interested, I can take measurements and some pictures to send you. Ithink it would ship UPS with no problem.Barry DavisNX973BP
DouweI have a set of Grove alum landing gear taking up room in my shop. I wouldtake a couple of hundred bucks for it and you could cut it up as needed. Ifyou are interested, I can take measurements and some pictures to send you. Ithink it would ship UPS with no problem.Barry DavisNX973BP