Original Posted By: "canaweb"
Just a thought ... you could make plywood ribs, epoxy to round tube, use an aluminumtube trailing edge. then cover with fabric.--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lift ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
FOR SALE BY BUILDER with Ford B motor & mount, spare block, spruce fuselage,& tail feathers. Contact for more info. Contact Carmen A. Natalie, Owner - locatedRavena, NY USA Telephone: 518-653-6066Here are a few photos from when I first began the project. Parts have all sataround for a long while. I'll get a few pics of the motor and other parts. I have the model B engine and mount as well as tail feathers and rear lift struts.Chad Willie made me an entire fitting set. I believe I still have most of the instruments, but I can look to see what I stillhave if you have an interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/canaweb/se ... 9158/Sitka was used throughout - obtained from a lumberyard in Stormville that usedto cater to the EAA crowd. A wood had proper # or rings /inch, etc..Glue was aerolite..one fuselage side was left off but I have it, ready to glue on. I'm sure by nowthere are better glues available. Ply was marine, if memory serves..First batch of photos is when I first started the project, last ones are currentstate. Gear is split type and was once on a Pietenpol owned by Ernest Gann.I found all instruments, and also believe I have some turnbuckles & shackles. Empty block was used for spacing, but the B with all internals would need tobe rebuilt.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
FOR SALE BY BUILDER with Ford B motor & mount, spare block, spruce fuselage,& tail feathers. Contact for more info. Contact Carmen A. Natalie, Owner - locatedRavena, NY USA Telephone: 518-653-6066Here are a few photos from when I first began the project. Parts have all sataround for a long while. I'll get a few pics of the motor and other parts. I have the model B engine and mount as well as tail feathers and rear lift struts.Chad Willie made me an entire fitting set. I believe I still have most of the instruments, but I can look to see what I stillhave if you have an interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/canaweb/se ... 9158/Sitka was used throughout - obtained from a lumberyard in Stormville that usedto cater to the EAA crowd. A wood had proper # or rings /inch, etc..Glue was aerolite..one fuselage side was left off but I have it, ready to glue on. I'm sure by nowthere are better glues available. Ply was marine, if memory serves..First batch of photos is when I first started the project, last ones are currentstate. Gear is split type and was once on a Pietenpol owned by Ernest Gann.I found all instruments, and also believe I have some turnbuckles & shackles. Empty block was used for spacing, but the B with all internals would need tobe rebuilt.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Wow, that looks like a nice project for someone east of the Mississippi to takea look at. The historical significance of the landing gear alone would makeit of interest to me, if I were looking to build a classic styled Piet. Lotsof metal fittings there, too.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Wow, that looks like a nice project for someone east of the Mississippi to takea look at. The historical significance of the landing gear alone would makeit of interest to me, if I were looking to build a classic styled Piet. Lotsof metal fittings there, too.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Ear Muff Fab.
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Michael,Engine earmuffs? What are those? Those things for outboard boat motors to cycle water when they're run out-of-water?I think the phrase you're searching for is "eyebrow scoops." Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.comOn Sep 30, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Michael Perez wrote:> > Crew, I have the material in hand and am wanting to start fabrication of the "ear muffs" for the engine. Rather than try and search around for pictures on the web, I am hoping some of you won't mind posting you ear muff pictures here, or directly to me. I am trying to get a feel for the various ways they are made, how they are shaped, how they attach to the engine, size, etc. I am also curious if there are any reinforcement patches used, (to reduce cracking) spark plug wire holes/locations, etc. How about internal baffles?> > Any photos and or advice would be greatly appreciated. As we approach a government shut down, I may have a lot of time on my hands and getting these made would be some good progress.> > If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.> Michael Perez> Pietenpol HINT Videos> Karetaker Aero> www.karetakeraero.com> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:52:13 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ear Muff Fab.
Michael,Engine earmuffs? What are those? Those things for outboard boat motors to cycle water when they're run out-of-water?I think the phrase you're searching for is "eyebrow scoops." Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.comOn Sep 30, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Michael Perez wrote:> > Crew, I have the material in hand and am wanting to start fabrication of the "ear muffs" for the engine. Rather than try and search around for pictures on the web, I am hoping some of you won't mind posting you ear muff pictures here, or directly to me. I am trying to get a feel for the various ways they are made, how they are shaped, how they attach to the engine, size, etc. I am also curious if there are any reinforcement patches used, (to reduce cracking) spark plug wire holes/locations, etc. How about internal baffles?> > Any photos and or advice would be greatly appreciated. As we approach a government shut down, I may have a lot of time on my hands and getting these made would be some good progress.> > If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.> Michael Perez> Pietenpol HINT Videos> Karetaker Aero> www.karetakeraero.com> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:52:13 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ear Muff Fab.
Pietenpol-List: Re: Ear Muff Fab.
Original Posted By: "l.morlock"
Ear muffs?Never heard them called that before. Never thought of the engine as having ears.I suppose eyebrows doesn't really make sense either, since the engine has the samenumber of eyes as it does ears. But cooling eyebrows is usually the terminologyused (assuming you're referring to the scoops that are used to direct coolingair over the cylinders, as per the J3 Cub and similar aircraft with exposedcylinders). Referring to them as "ear muffs" will likely elicit a few raisedeyebrows (pun intended). Just sayin'.BCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ear muffs?Never heard them called that before. Never thought of the engine as having ears.I suppose eyebrows doesn't really make sense either, since the engine has the samenumber of eyes as it does ears. But cooling eyebrows is usually the terminologyused (assuming you're referring to the scoops that are used to direct coolingair over the cylinders, as per the J3 Cub and similar aircraft with exposedcylinders). Referring to them as "ear muffs" will likely elicit a few raisedeyebrows (pun intended). Just sayin'.BCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
I spoke with Carmen several times on email after seeing his ad in barnstormers.It sounds like a very nice project and I agree with Oscar about the gear especially.It would be akin to a quick build kit for anyone who is contemplatingbuilding and hasn't begun yet.Scott Knowlton Burlington Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 30, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Wow, that looks like a nice project for someone east of the Mississippi to takea look at. The historical significance of the landing gear alone would makeit of interest to me, if I were looking to build a classic styled Piet. Lotsof metal fittings there, too.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 498#409498> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
I spoke with Carmen several times on email after seeing his ad in barnstormers.It sounds like a very nice project and I agree with Oscar about the gear especially.It would be akin to a quick build kit for anyone who is contemplatingbuilding and hasn't begun yet.Scott Knowlton Burlington Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 30, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Wow, that looks like a nice project for someone east of the Mississippi to takea look at. The historical significance of the landing gear alone would makeit of interest to me, if I were looking to build a classic styled Piet. Lotsof metal fittings there, too.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 498#409498> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Original Posted By: Marcus Zechini
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
Jack,Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I had a 3 day weekend. I have 16" wheelsfrom the late 1920's. They were sold by Hayes for airplanes back in the day.They have three rows of spokes in them, meaning 1 row in the center and arow on each side near the bead. The outside rows help prevent the wheels fromcollapsing from side loads. My spoke are also straight laced, meaning thatthey do not cross. This prevents me from installing any brakes on the hub. Thehub would simply just spin and break the spokes if a load were to be appliedto it. The hubs, spokes and rims are all steel. I have no idea how many spokesare in them. Bottom line here is that my wheels could probably be copied but it would requirea lot of work and manufacturing. I have only seen these wheels on one otherairplane and it was in a museum somewhere. I have seen one or two pictures ofplanes with them. I hope I haven't discouraged you. It just that the wheels I have are very rareand probably not cost effective to replicate. There are a lot of Piets out therewith 21" wheels that look fantastic and seem to function very well. Oh andyou can put brakes on them. Sometimes not having brakes is a bit bothersome.Sorry about the over sized Pic. I don't know how to change the size. Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale
Jack,Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I had a 3 day weekend. I have 16" wheelsfrom the late 1920's. They were sold by Hayes for airplanes back in the day.They have three rows of spokes in them, meaning 1 row in the center and arow on each side near the bead. The outside rows help prevent the wheels fromcollapsing from side loads. My spoke are also straight laced, meaning thatthey do not cross. This prevents me from installing any brakes on the hub. Thehub would simply just spin and break the spokes if a load were to be appliedto it. The hubs, spokes and rims are all steel. I have no idea how many spokesare in them. Bottom line here is that my wheels could probably be copied but it would requirea lot of work and manufacturing. I have only seen these wheels on one otherairplane and it was in a museum somewhere. I have seen one or two pictures ofplanes with them. I hope I haven't discouraged you. It just that the wheels I have are very rareand probably not cost effective to replicate. There are a lot of Piets out therewith 21" wheels that look fantastic and seem to function very well. Oh andyou can put brakes on them. Sometimes not having brakes is a bit bothersome.Sorry about the over sized Pic. I don't know how to change the size. Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol AirCamper project for sale