Original Posted By: Rick
Perhaps a better question would be "why?".150hp is way too much power for a plane designed to fly on 40-100hp.And the dry weight of the engine is 275 lb.The smaller R2800 is a proven powerplant for the Air Camper, as seen on Dick Navratil'swell publicized NX25RN.http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Dick%20 ... es.htmBill CRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Well fellow Pieters,Here is the state I am in. After 10 years of building I am ready to buy some certifiedaircraft topcoat. My preference is to go with Poly Tone. My issue is nowtrying to determine what the colors available are. After talking to AircraftSpruce I find that the only color chart they have available is just an offsetprinted approximation. Many of you may know that I am a retired technical directorof an International coatings company. Paint formulation and color controlhas been my life for over 40 years. To now find out that I have to spend morethan $100 per gallon for a coating that is non returnable, for a color thatI have no real idea what I am ordering is more than I can take.Is there anybody on the list that has some left over paint that can help me out?What I am looking for is a yellow that is not too bright. I want to paint thePiet basically like a "yellow" Curtiss Jenny without the lower wing. A cub yellowis to bright and saturated. The yellow on Dan Yocum's Piet would probablywork, but I don't know if Dan knows what color his yellow is.What I am looking for is a couple of dabs of left over poly tone yellow on somewhite card stock to a least get some idea of what the color is.Rick SchreiberNX478RS________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Well fellow Pieters,Here is the state I am in. After 10 years of building I am ready to buy some certifiedaircraft topcoat. My preference is to go with Poly Tone. My issue is nowtrying to determine what the colors available are. After talking to AircraftSpruce I find that the only color chart they have available is just an offsetprinted approximation. Many of you may know that I am a retired technical directorof an International coatings company. Paint formulation and color controlhas been my life for over 40 years. To now find out that I have to spend morethan $100 per gallon for a coating that is non returnable, for a color thatI have no real idea what I am ordering is more than I can take.Is there anybody on the list that has some left over paint that can help me out?What I am looking for is a yellow that is not too bright. I want to paint thePiet basically like a "yellow" Curtiss Jenny without the lower wing. A cub yellowis to bright and saturated. The yellow on Dan Yocum's Piet would probablywork, but I don't know if Dan knows what color his yellow is.What I am looking for is a couple of dabs of left over poly tone yellow on somewhite card stock to a least get some idea of what the color is.Rick SchreiberNX478RS________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Rick; I can empathize with you... I searched high and low for a match for the yellowon Scout and got pretty close with some, but the Poly-Tone yellow (which,it turns out, is almost exactly the same yellow as is used on highway centerlinestripes) was always just a little different from what I was finding.I would go around the retail distributor and cut right to the source... Poly Fiberin Riverside, CA. I would be greatly surprised if they weren't willing andable to send you some actual color swatches of the paints that you are interestedin. And in fact, I have a daughter living in Carlsbad and family in Fallbrook,not too far from Riverside, and if you needed to have someone go by PolyFiber to pick up swatches and mail them to you, I'll bet that could be arrangedtoo.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Rick; I can empathize with you... I searched high and low for a match for the yellowon Scout and got pretty close with some, but the Poly-Tone yellow (which,it turns out, is almost exactly the same yellow as is used on highway centerlinestripes) was always just a little different from what I was finding.I would go around the retail distributor and cut right to the source... Poly Fiberin Riverside, CA. I would be greatly surprised if they weren't willing andable to send you some actual color swatches of the paints that you are interestedin. And in fact, I have a daughter living in Carlsbad and family in Fallbrook,not too far from Riverside, and if you needed to have someone go by PolyFiber to pick up swatches and mail them to you, I'll bet that could be arrangedtoo.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
By the way, I believe the yellow paint on my airplane is "Federal Yellow", and if you look at the typical color chart (such as this one: http://www.hangar10aerosupply.com/poly- ... 0chart.htm ), you'll see that Federal Yellow on the chart bears no resemblance to what is on the airplane, here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/NX41CC02.jpg . I agree... if you're going to spend the money, you need to know what you're going to get!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:41:11 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
By the way, I believe the yellow paint on my airplane is "Federal Yellow", and if you look at the typical color chart (such as this one: http://www.hangar10aerosupply.com/poly- ... 0chart.htm ), you'll see that Federal Yellow on the chart bears no resemblance to what is on the airplane, here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/NX41CC02.jpg . I agree... if you're going to spend the money, you need to know what you're going to get!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:41:11 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Gentlemen,I'm new to the list although I've been reading it for some time. I've acquireda Piet project. I've just OVH the model A engine am now working on the airframe.My current dilemma is the wheels. After talking to Buchanan wheel and rim itseems I have more question than answers. I have 21" spoked wheels used as aprototype (not airworthy). Should I use steel or aluminum rims, SS or chrome spokesand how many. It seems that 40 is typical. And since I will have brakesthey will be cross laced. Any help would be appreciated.My goal is to fly to Brodhead next year. I drove this year (long trip).JackSent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:02:42 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Gentlemen,I'm new to the list although I've been reading it for some time. I've acquireda Piet project. I've just OVH the model A engine am now working on the airframe.My current dilemma is the wheels. After talking to Buchanan wheel and rim itseems I have more question than answers. I have 21" spoked wheels used as aprototype (not airworthy). Should I use steel or aluminum rims, SS or chrome spokesand how many. It seems that 40 is typical. And since I will have brakesthey will be cross laced. Any help would be appreciated.My goal is to fly to Brodhead next year. I drove this year (long trip).JackSent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:02:42 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Poly fiber issues
Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Congrats Chris! Hope to see you and your Piet at Brodhead.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Congrats Chris! Hope to see you and your Piet at Brodhead.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Selection
Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
Rick,I third what Oscar said. The folks a Poly Fiber will bend over backwards to helpyou out. They are great people. Tell them what you want. A trick I learnedwhen I rebuilt my plane. They had changed their cream color somewhere alongthe line and the new stuff didn't match the old paint I had from a previousrebuild project. They did a color match for me since I told them it was a "repairjob". You could try that if you have a color sample you like. Ken,The cafe at Flabob has changed hands. It was closed for a little while, cleanedup and is now open. I was at Flabob last Sat. for the flying circus event butdid not go into the cafe because it was too crowded. Didn't hear anythingbad about it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Selection
Rick,I third what Oscar said. The folks a Poly Fiber will bend over backwards to helpyou out. They are great people. Tell them what you want. A trick I learnedwhen I rebuilt my plane. They had changed their cream color somewhere alongthe line and the new stuff didn't match the old paint I had from a previousrebuild project. They did a color match for me since I told them it was a "repairjob". You could try that if you have a color sample you like. Ken,The cafe at Flabob has changed hands. It was closed for a little while, cleanedup and is now open. I was at Flabob last Sat. for the flying circus event butdid not go into the cafe because it was too crowded. Didn't hear anythingbad about it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Selection
Original Posted By: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
I would talk to Kevin Purtee. You can find his email address by searching fora post from him. He's out in the Austin TX area. His 100 HP Piet has an amazingclimb rate and he's a big person. At Brodhead he put another BIG personin the front and the plane still climbed briskly.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I would talk to Kevin Purtee. You can find his email address by searching fora post from him. He's out in the Austin TX area. His 100 HP Piet has an amazingclimb rate and he's a big person. At Brodhead he put another BIG personin the front and the plane still climbed briskly.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly fiber issues
Original Posted By: Rick Schreiber
Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm honored!
Original Posted By: "David"
Great comments Mike. For me, I also often put on your tape for inspiration......Believe it or not I am looking fwd to the rainy fall ans winter here in Seattle- for some wonderful, warm days in the workshop....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Great comments Mike. For me, I also often put on your tape for inspiration......Believe it or not I am looking fwd to the rainy fall ans winter here in Seattle- for some wonderful, warm days in the workshop....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm honored!
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Hi all, As I mentioned previously I am building a 1:4.5 RC scale model of a Pietbefore building the 1:1 scale model.To this effect I am looking for some spruce offcuts. If anyone has a handfulof 1x1s about 4 feet in length they want to sell, please let me knowoff-list. These can be the reject pieces you didn't use in your 1:1 Piet.Thanks in advance, Dave________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm honored!
Hi all, As I mentioned previously I am building a 1:4.5 RC scale model of a Pietbefore building the 1:1 scale model.To this effect I am looking for some spruce offcuts. If anyone has a handfulof 1x1s about 4 feet in length they want to sell, please let me knowoff-list. These can be the reject pieces you didn't use in your 1:1 Piet.Thanks in advance, Dave________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I'm honored!
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol RC Model
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Jake;Now that is one beautiful, graceful fuselage. Nice work.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:03:27 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol RC Model
Jake;Now that is one beautiful, graceful fuselage. Nice work.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:03:27 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol RC Model