Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Just had a Home Depot gift card land my way....Hope to start the Piet some time within the next few months. What tools shouldI be buying?Just wondering if anyone has a list either on paper or in their head :pThanks!British Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: What tools should I be buying?
RE: Pietenpol-List: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
What do you have?Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
What do you have?Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Having emigrated from the UK to Canada fairly recently, my collection is limitedto the hammer, electric drill, screwdrivers, hand saw and the usual handyman'sthings.I am forced to start a fresh but figured this was a great opportunity to get theworkshop set up properly.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:04:05 -0800
Having emigrated from the UK to Canada fairly recently, my collection is limitedto the hammer, electric drill, screwdrivers, hand saw and the usual handyman'sthings.I am forced to start a fresh but figured this was a great opportunity to get theworkshop set up properly.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:04:05 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield thickness
Original Posted By: Rick
Jim,This is what I used....compound miter saw, table saw, band saw, drill press, tabletop 4"x36" belt-disk sander.Rick Schreiber Sent from my iPadOn Nov 6, 2013, at 10:59 PM, "BritishJim" wrote:> > Having emigrated from the UK to Canada fairly recently, my collection is limitedto the hammer, electric drill, screwdrivers, hand saw and the usual handyman'sthings.> > I am forced to start a fresh but figured this was a great opportunity to getthe workshop set up properly.> > --------> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 322#412322> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield thickness
Jim,This is what I used....compound miter saw, table saw, band saw, drill press, tabletop 4"x36" belt-disk sander.Rick Schreiber Sent from my iPadOn Nov 6, 2013, at 10:59 PM, "BritishJim" wrote:> > Having emigrated from the UK to Canada fairly recently, my collection is limitedto the hammer, electric drill, screwdrivers, hand saw and the usual handyman'sthings.> > I am forced to start a fresh but figured this was a great opportunity to getthe workshop set up properly.> > --------> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 322#412322> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield thickness
Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: "tools"
Don,I think I will go with the thinner Lexan.ThanksRickSent from my iPadOn Nov 6, 2013, at 9:34 AM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Rick,> > I would think with it being supported all the way around you should have no problemat all with .080" thick. Mine is unsupported at that thickness and I don'thave any issues. I'd definitely use the .080" thick.> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 269#412269> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Don,I think I will go with the thinner Lexan.ThanksRickSent from my iPadOn Nov 6, 2013, at 9:34 AM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Rick,> > I would think with it being supported all the way around you should have no problemat all with .080" thick. Mine is unsupported at that thickness and I don'thave any issues. I'd definitely use the .080" thick.> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 269#412269> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
This is more qualitative than quanitative...I generally don't believe in buying stationary power tools new, they're so availableused for reasonable prices. And I also don't generally believe in buying power hand tools used, as they'reusually slap worn out.However, it's been a few years since I bought any tools, they make some nice stationarytools these days that while aren't the nice heavy cast iron types I generallylike, they are pretty good. Basically portable power tools that arewell mounted and presented.Quanitativley, I do believe life isn't worth living without a drill press and bandsaw.However or where ever, I'd prioritize them highly. Useful no matterthe variant of Piet (or any plane) or how you decide to build. If at all possible,I'd REALLY consider making the bandsaw a "wood/metal" type, which meansit'll have a way to slow the blade way down for metal cutting. Generally, all14" bandsaws are good and blades are easy to get anywhere (all about 93 or 94inches). Somewhat oriented towards airplane building, a bench grinder (go for 3/4hp, skipthe smaller fractional ones, just not enough power) with a Scotchbrite wheelfor deburring and smoothing. If you're gonna go hardcore mill you're own lumber make SURE you have the bandsawand then get a planer. Reasonably priced "lunchbox" planers will work GREATfor what you're doing on a Piet. Don't bother with a jointer. The bandsaw will allow you to maximize yield by resawing (get a 3/16 skip toothblade{available through any industrial supplier to any length you want, costshould be under ten bucks} and you can resaw with any 14" saw up to 6" underthe guide quickly and effectively) and then a single pass through the planer andit's cleaned up. Resawing on a tablesaw is NOT the way to go generally. Itwastes a lot of wood. Also a lot more dangerous.An air compressor. Compressed air is like oxygen in a shop. Generally overlooked, clamps. ALL OF THEM. Tell EVERYONE you know to buy youclamps (if they're on the christmas card list...). When you invite a couple overfor dinner, tell them not to bring a bottle of wine, just bring a clamp, ofANY kind. Clamps are like thumbs... It's fun to set up a shop, let us know how it's going!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
This is more qualitative than quanitative...I generally don't believe in buying stationary power tools new, they're so availableused for reasonable prices. And I also don't generally believe in buying power hand tools used, as they'reusually slap worn out.However, it's been a few years since I bought any tools, they make some nice stationarytools these days that while aren't the nice heavy cast iron types I generallylike, they are pretty good. Basically portable power tools that arewell mounted and presented.Quanitativley, I do believe life isn't worth living without a drill press and bandsaw.However or where ever, I'd prioritize them highly. Useful no matterthe variant of Piet (or any plane) or how you decide to build. If at all possible,I'd REALLY consider making the bandsaw a "wood/metal" type, which meansit'll have a way to slow the blade way down for metal cutting. Generally, all14" bandsaws are good and blades are easy to get anywhere (all about 93 or 94inches). Somewhat oriented towards airplane building, a bench grinder (go for 3/4hp, skipthe smaller fractional ones, just not enough power) with a Scotchbrite wheelfor deburring and smoothing. If you're gonna go hardcore mill you're own lumber make SURE you have the bandsawand then get a planer. Reasonably priced "lunchbox" planers will work GREATfor what you're doing on a Piet. Don't bother with a jointer. The bandsaw will allow you to maximize yield by resawing (get a 3/16 skip toothblade{available through any industrial supplier to any length you want, costshould be under ten bucks} and you can resaw with any 14" saw up to 6" underthe guide quickly and effectively) and then a single pass through the planer andit's cleaned up. Resawing on a tablesaw is NOT the way to go generally. Itwastes a lot of wood. Also a lot more dangerous.An air compressor. Compressed air is like oxygen in a shop. Generally overlooked, clamps. ALL OF THEM. Tell EVERYONE you know to buy youclamps (if they're on the christmas card list...). When you invite a couple overfor dinner, tell them not to bring a bottle of wine, just bring a clamp, ofANY kind. Clamps are like thumbs... It's fun to set up a shop, let us know how it's going!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
This is a very old monthly article for our EAA Chapter Newsletter and forour own use. Remember this was very early in the Big Piet Project and wewere building Steel fuselages.BarryBig Piet NX973BP-----Original Message-----
This is a very old monthly article for our EAA Chapter Newsletter and forour own use. Remember this was very early in the Big Piet Project and wewere building Steel fuselages.BarryBig Piet NX973BP-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Jim,In the article that Barry shared, there is a photo of a belt/disc sander, witha hand written sign stating that "you can't build a Piet without one of these".That tool (or more specifically, the disc sander part of that combination tool)will probably give you the biggest bang for the buck. I use mine all thetime. Since you don't already have a table saw, I assume you will be buying yourwood as finished stock. Using a disc sander will allow you to rough cut (usingthe hand saw that you already have) your sticks just slightly oversize,and then precisely fine tune them to exactly the length and angle of cut thatyou need. This is the method I used to make all of my parts for my ribs, andalmost every other stick in my plane. I recommend that you get the biggest diameterdisc sander you can. It's a very handy tool for Piet building.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:40:22 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Jim,In the article that Barry shared, there is a photo of a belt/disc sander, witha hand written sign stating that "you can't build a Piet without one of these".That tool (or more specifically, the disc sander part of that combination tool)will probably give you the biggest bang for the buck. I use mine all thetime. Since you don't already have a table saw, I assume you will be buying yourwood as finished stock. Using a disc sander will allow you to rough cut (usingthe hand saw that you already have) your sticks just slightly oversize,and then precisely fine tune them to exactly the length and angle of cut thatyou need. This is the method I used to make all of my parts for my ribs, andalmost every other stick in my plane. I recommend that you get the biggest diameterdisc sander you can. It's a very handy tool for Piet building.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:40:22 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What tools should I be buying?
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I have used one of those but with much thinnercut-off discs. The best ones to get are thosedesignated for stainless steel. They last muchlonger. Also not the "dished" ones. ----- Original Message -----
I have used one of those but with much thinnercut-off discs. The best ones to get are thosedesignated for stainless steel. They last muchlonger. Also not the "dished" ones. ----- Original Message -----