Original Posted By: "At30West"
Bob,Changing the subject, I was looking through the archives and found the pictureof your varnished fuselage and it's absolutely beautiful. What varnish did youuse and how did you apply it.Thanks,Keith goffSent from my iPad> On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:02 PM, "bdewenter" wrote:> > > Folks,> > Come on, do you really think someone has not become a poser on this list?> > Lets all calm down a little before we retry the Salem Witches.> > Put your instant reaction machines to bed and ignore this poser. Your reactionis what 'it' is seeking.> > Bob Dewenter> Dayton OH> > --------> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter> Dayton OH> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 221#414221> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
I have decided to start a Piet project. Finally the kids are out of college andthe planets are aligned.I am finding that there are more than the "official" plans are available. Is thereany innovation or benefit to any other source of plans than from the grandson?I will be going the A65, C85 or O200 route on the engine, not the modelA.Thanks in advance,Steve BoyerKBJJRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:28:04 -0800
I have decided to start a Piet project. Finally the kids are out of college andthe planets are aligned.I am finding that there are more than the "official" plans are available. Is thereany innovation or benefit to any other source of plans than from the grandson?I will be going the A65, C85 or O200 route on the engine, not the modelA.Thanks in advance,Steve BoyerKBJJRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:28:04 -0800
RE: Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Steve,Welcome to the world of Pietenpols! You will find this to be a wonderfulgroup of people, and building your own Pietenpol to be one of the bestexperiences of your life.There are several "official" Pietenpol plans, including the plans publishedin the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual (available as a reprint from EAA), the"Improved Air Camper" plans available from Andrew Pietenpol, and the longfuselage plans and supplemental plans available from Andrew as well. Irecommend buying the plans from Andrew, and get everything he has to offer.Many people build from all three versions, as I did. I used the longfuselage plans, but used the landing gear from the Flying and Glider manual,and used the Continental engine mount and 3-piece wing plans from thesupplemntal plan set. Everything else was from the "Improved Air Camper"plans.You also should have at least the first two of the Tony Bingelis books, TheSportplane Builder and Sportplane Construction Techniques (better, buy thewhole set of four), available from EAA. Those will tell you nearlyeverything you need to know to build one of these airplanes.Where are you located?Good Luck and have fun!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Hi Steve,Welcome to the world of Pietenpols! You will find this to be a wonderfulgroup of people, and building your own Pietenpol to be one of the bestexperiences of your life.There are several "official" Pietenpol plans, including the plans publishedin the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual (available as a reprint from EAA), the"Improved Air Camper" plans available from Andrew Pietenpol, and the longfuselage plans and supplemental plans available from Andrew as well. Irecommend buying the plans from Andrew, and get everything he has to offer.Many people build from all three versions, as I did. I used the longfuselage plans, but used the landing gear from the Flying and Glider manual,and used the Continental engine mount and 3-piece wing plans from thesupplemntal plan set. Everything else was from the "Improved Air Camper"plans.You also should have at least the first two of the Tony Bingelis books, TheSportplane Builder and Sportplane Construction Techniques (better, buy thewhole set of four), available from EAA. Those will tell you nearlyeverything you need to know to build one of these airplanes.Where are you located?Good Luck and have fun!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Well said... I support Matt's work here for similar reasons. How else would a pilot from Texasand another from Georgia know to visit a guy in a garage near Seattle buildingthe same kind of plane...!?!?!? Thanks everyone for the sense of community here...!!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:27:15 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Well said... I support Matt's work here for similar reasons. How else would a pilot from Texasand another from Georgia know to visit a guy in a garage near Seattle buildingthe same kind of plane...!?!?!? Thanks everyone for the sense of community here...!!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:27:15 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans... Where to start?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans... Where to start?
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Steve; welcome to the list, and you're now among a bunch of new friends.One thing that you may have been referring to when you said that there are severalofficial sets of plans out there, is that there exists the parallel worldof the Grega GN-1 Aircamper. Mr. Grega took Mr. Pietenpol's Air Camper designand made some changes and improvements to it to suit his idea of what the airplaneshould be. He also incorporated various parts and sub-assemblies from otheraircraft that were readily available at the time... wings, fuel tank, landinggear, various other things from Piper Cubs. Although we consider the GregaAircamper and the Pietenpol Air Camper to be the same breed of cat (and theyare), they are not really interchangeable in all respects. If you're familiarwith the Wittman Tailwind and the Nesmith Cougar, it's a similar relationship.Again, welcome to the group and fire away with questions as they arise in yourplanning and building process.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans... Where to start?
Steve; welcome to the list, and you're now among a bunch of new friends.One thing that you may have been referring to when you said that there are severalofficial sets of plans out there, is that there exists the parallel worldof the Grega GN-1 Aircamper. Mr. Grega took Mr. Pietenpol's Air Camper designand made some changes and improvements to it to suit his idea of what the airplaneshould be. He also incorporated various parts and sub-assemblies from otheraircraft that were readily available at the time... wings, fuel tank, landinggear, various other things from Piper Cubs. Although we consider the GregaAircamper and the Pietenpol Air Camper to be the same breed of cat (and theyare), they are not really interchangeable in all respects. If you're familiarwith the Wittman Tailwind and the Nesmith Cougar, it's a similar relationship.Again, welcome to the group and fire away with questions as they arise in yourplanning and building process.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans... Where to start?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim's Hyde
Original Posted By: "Larry Williams"
In addition to what Oscar just said, it should be noted that the Grega GN-1 Aircamperplans are no longer offered for sale. So, while there are sets of thoseplans "out there", you can't actually order a set anymore.The only true source of Pietenpol Air Camper plans is the Pietenpol family, atthe following website:http://community.pressenter.net/~apietenp/Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim's Hyde
In addition to what Oscar just said, it should be noted that the Grega GN-1 Aircamperplans are no longer offered for sale. So, while there are sets of thoseplans "out there", you can't actually order a set anymore.The only true source of Pietenpol Air Camper plans is the Pietenpol family, atthe following website:http://community.pressenter.net/~apietenp/Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim's Hyde
Original Posted By: goffelectric(at)comcast.net
Mr. Hyde-If you are trying to become the next Top Curmudgeon, I'd suggest screening yourtargets more carefully. Also, adjectives you are able to use since your motherran out of soap brand you as less credible and not worth listening to. Sorry.......keeptrying.Larry (Top Curmudgeon) Williams--------L.V.WilliamsXCG, XCMR,EPPUSHPA, EAA, AMARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:04:50 +0000 (UTC)
Mr. Hyde-If you are trying to become the next Top Curmudgeon, I'd suggest screening yourtargets more carefully. Also, adjectives you are able to use since your motherran out of soap brand you as less credible and not worth listening to. Sorry.......keeptrying.Larry (Top Curmudgeon) Williams--------L.V.WilliamsXCG, XCMR,EPPUSHPA, EAA, AMARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:04:50 +0000 (UTC)