Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jim's HydeMay be is the first time he use the mail.. I remember in the 87, using amail account from MCI (internet for all was in it infancy), short and veryprecise messages/faxes/printed letters (you have to pay for the service,and it was close into the MCI network, not network, but like it) and theproliferation of mails account 3 o 4 years later with the ISP anduniversities, with messages like this one of Jim; the problem was mail wassomething new and difficult to work with it, there where ofenses evrywhere,lots of them by bad interpretation of the original one. But never one likethis one.. i am cant beliv it it yet.I am going to work a couple of hours with the fuel tankregardsMario Giacummo2013/11/26 Ryan Mueller > You're either very dense, or this is a put-on.....but it's so random to be> a put-on...and who would be putting you up to it....>> Matt Dralle is the gentleman that run Matronics, that provides (at no cost> to you) the mailing lists where you can read about building your "f-ing> Pietenpol". If you would take a moment to read and comprehend the> fund-raiser emails that occasionally got sent out, or, heck, shoot for a> modicum of situational awareness regarding what you are doing on the> internet, you too could understand this.>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:39 PM, jim hyde wrote:>>> who is this pencil salesman and it aint no outburst. if you got as many e>> mails from this guy asking for money you would be sick of him to. do you>> have any idea who he is?>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:37 PM, jim hyde >> wrote:>> I have no idea who this matt guy is. all I know is that he keeps>> sending me e mails wanting money. he must be like a jesus freak guy like a>> bill graham. I don't appreciate some panhandler finding my e mail address>> and asking for money. im just building a fucking pietenpol and have no>> interest in any thing else. who is this guy? why is he selling pencils on>> this site? the last pencils I bought came from a drunk indian on the street>> Glendale, az and I didn't care where he got them. I get this long e mail,>> so I read it and it has nothing to do with building my plane so I wasted>> time that could have been used building a second wing. why would I be>> banned? all im doing is on here to get info on building the plane. what>> little money I have is needed to build the fucking plane. I aint giving>> nothing to a pencil salesman. if I need a pencil ill steal it from work.>>>>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lets all cool off
Pietenpol-List: Lets all cool off
Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
Folks,Come on, do you really think someone has not become a poser on this list?Lets all calm down a little before we retry the Salem Witches.Put your instant reaction machines to bed and ignore this poser. Your reactionis what 'it' is seeking.Bob DewenterDayton OH--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Folks,Come on, do you really think someone has not become a poser on this list?Lets all calm down a little before we retry the Salem Witches.Put your instant reaction machines to bed and ignore this poser. Your reactionis what 'it' is seeking.Bob DewenterDayton OH--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lets all cool off
Original Posted By: Keith
Am I missing something??? I seem to recall a "no e-mail" option when I signedup for this Forum and as a result, the ONLY solicitation I receive from Matt ison the Forum when I check to see what's going on. This is neither onerous oroffensive since I can chose to read it or not. Maybe Mr Hyde should trot on over to his grandkids house and have them explainthe internet to him since he obviously hasn't a vague, foggy, notion of what ittakes to maintain a functioning web site. While he's on his way, he can stopby the Apple Store and get his avionics advice from its "genius's" and HomeDepot for construction tips.I truly hope that he is not the Jim Hyde that Ryan found but I fear, based on the"braniff" part of his signature, that it's true. Very sad that a person ofhis stature would loose his civility. Fortunately we have guys like Bill Reweyand Doc Mosher as better examples.And yes, I have contributed to Matt's fund raising efforts over the past severalyears and fully intend to continue.Dave AldrichRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lets all cool off
Am I missing something??? I seem to recall a "no e-mail" option when I signedup for this Forum and as a result, the ONLY solicitation I receive from Matt ison the Forum when I check to see what's going on. This is neither onerous oroffensive since I can chose to read it or not. Maybe Mr Hyde should trot on over to his grandkids house and have them explainthe internet to him since he obviously hasn't a vague, foggy, notion of what ittakes to maintain a functioning web site. While he's on his way, he can stopby the Apple Store and get his avionics advice from its "genius's" and HomeDepot for construction tips.I truly hope that he is not the Jim Hyde that Ryan found but I fear, based on the"braniff" part of his signature, that it's true. Very sad that a person ofhis stature would loose his civility. Fortunately we have guys like Bill Reweyand Doc Mosher as better examples.And yes, I have contributed to Matt's fund raising efforts over the past severalyears and fully intend to continue.Dave AldrichRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lets all cool off
Pietenpol-List: Re: Lets all cool off
Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
Steve congratulations on your decision and commitment. You will get many opinions;I commend you on your engine choice (ducking). With the Continentals you cango long or short fuselage, I went long. The only other plans I utilize comefrom the Flyer and Glider Manual. If you need an engine at a fair price fromone of the finest builders, contact me off list for Tom Wottreng's info. Alsoif you want to be included in the Piet directory, let me know and I will forwardyou the info. Once again congratulations.JackJack TextorWest Des Moines, IA--------Jack TextorWest Des Moines, IAwww.textors.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lets all cool off
Steve congratulations on your decision and commitment. You will get many opinions;I commend you on your engine choice (ducking). With the Continentals you cango long or short fuselage, I went long. The only other plans I utilize comefrom the Flyer and Glider Manual. If you need an engine at a fair price fromone of the finest builders, contact me off list for Tom Wottreng's info. Alsoif you want to be included in the Piet directory, let me know and I will forwardyou the info. Once again congratulations.JackJack TextorWest Des Moines, IA--------Jack TextorWest Des Moines, IAwww.textors.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lets all cool off
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Original Posted By: Claude Corbett
Keith,Thanks for the very kind words. This coming from a guy who is building an incrediblynice Piet - I saw it a Barnwell and I was very impressed with your workmanshipand skill. The special love affair with varnish was more a fools errand than anything else,having spent too many hours looking at yacht interiors from the pages of Powerand Motor Yacht these past 15 years. I started with good quality a 3" brush but always left tiny air bubbles (rookieI am). Experts use badger hair brushes. I now have lost count of how many coatsI applied and then sanded down (or off) but I'm sure I am up to 6. I am usinghelmsman gloss spar urethane thinned with Mineral spirits. Through the processI found the best applicator (no bubbles, less mess) is a white foam rolleron a j frame. All tools and supplies came from the Aircraft coating divisionof Lowes. I sanded down between coats with 320 grit non-loading sandpaperand it was a slow way to build up a finish. Later I found a special pad (a whitescotch brite pad) made just for "polishing" between coats of varnish. Iiwould say it has the grit of wet newspaper.TIP: use a 2" white foam roller to coat all the fuselage members. its a perfectsize for the job and there is virtually no mess. I can even get inside thegussets. (see picture below)Heres a good source of info on varnishinghttp://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/se ... -------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/varn ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Keith,Thanks for the very kind words. This coming from a guy who is building an incrediblynice Piet - I saw it a Barnwell and I was very impressed with your workmanshipand skill. The special love affair with varnish was more a fools errand than anything else,having spent too many hours looking at yacht interiors from the pages of Powerand Motor Yacht these past 15 years. I started with good quality a 3" brush but always left tiny air bubbles (rookieI am). Experts use badger hair brushes. I now have lost count of how many coatsI applied and then sanded down (or off) but I'm sure I am up to 6. I am usinghelmsman gloss spar urethane thinned with Mineral spirits. Through the processI found the best applicator (no bubbles, less mess) is a white foam rolleron a j frame. All tools and supplies came from the Aircraft coating divisionof Lowes. I sanded down between coats with 320 grit non-loading sandpaperand it was a slow way to build up a finish. Later I found a special pad (a whitescotch brite pad) made just for "polishing" between coats of varnish. Iiwould say it has the grit of wet newspaper.TIP: use a 2" white foam roller to coat all the fuselage members. its a perfectsize for the job and there is virtually no mess. I can even get inside thegussets. (see picture below)Heres a good source of info on varnishinghttp://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/se ... -------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/varn ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Lets all cool off
Original Posted By: Michael Perez