Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Mike,I have an 8x10 of that pic somewhere around the house or hanger. When we moved,it never got hung back up. Next time I run across it I will take a cell phonepic of it and post it here. Funny thing about the approaches you are talking about. The B1, B2, Shuttle anda lot of other aircraft are built or maintained at Palmdale airport near whereI live. We make low approaches there all the time and have for as long asI can remember. Just don't touch down there or you will get carpel tunnel fromall the paper work and then you will need to remove your plane off the propertyimmediately, without flying it, if you get my point. Many times you see thoseplanes outside and nothing is ever said. It has a very long runway and ittakes a very long time to slow fly the length of it in the Piet. You get a lotof time to look at things. Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail End
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail End
Original Posted By: "tools"
I was building my first fuselage side today and dont understand how to completethe tail or tail post end. Is a piece of lumber glued into the end like theplan picture or is this left open and joined with the other side later? The planscall for a 1x1 tail post piece. Is this it?Thanks,--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail End
I was building my first fuselage side today and dont understand how to completethe tail or tail post end. Is a piece of lumber glued into the end like theplan picture or is this left open and joined with the other side later? The planscall for a 1x1 tail post piece. Is this it?Thanks,--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail End
Pietenpol-List: Re: Scouting for a new home
Original Posted By: "tools"
I just rebuilt my tail post. There is indeed one piece that comprises the tailpost. My new one is a bit bigger than 1x1 and is beveled for more contact withthe scarf plates.So, were I building a fuse from scratch, I'd leave the end open like you mentionand when you join the sides, you can bevel the longerons appropriately andadd the tail post. If you use a piece a little larger than necessary, you cancarve it after joining (rather plane it...) to get it dead nuts vertical (importantfor hinge alignment with the rudder) and beveled correctly. Then add thescarfs. You could put the diagonals in now or later.I also added a little wedge at the bottom between the longerons just adhead ofthe tail post. A 3/8 bolt goes through that holds the tail wheel and is wheremy shoulder straps are anchored. It also eliminates a little pocket where moisturecan sit and accumulate when it's on the ground. While you're there... that upper scarf plate one forward of the tail post scarfplate. If you lengthen it about 2", it will reinforce the longeron where you'lllikely drill a hole through it for the horiz stab. The plans call for anchoringthe stab with wood screws, but most through bolt it, significantly weakeningthe longeron more than a screw would. That's where my longerons brokeduring a ground loop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Scouting for a new home
I just rebuilt my tail post. There is indeed one piece that comprises the tailpost. My new one is a bit bigger than 1x1 and is beveled for more contact withthe scarf plates.So, were I building a fuse from scratch, I'd leave the end open like you mentionand when you join the sides, you can bevel the longerons appropriately andadd the tail post. If you use a piece a little larger than necessary, you cancarve it after joining (rather plane it...) to get it dead nuts vertical (importantfor hinge alignment with the rudder) and beveled correctly. Then add thescarfs. You could put the diagonals in now or later.I also added a little wedge at the bottom between the longerons just adhead ofthe tail post. A 3/8 bolt goes through that holds the tail wheel and is wheremy shoulder straps are anchored. It also eliminates a little pocket where moisturecan sit and accumulate when it's on the ground. While you're there... that upper scarf plate one forward of the tail post scarfplate. If you lengthen it about 2", it will reinforce the longeron where you'lllikely drill a hole through it for the horiz stab. The plans call for anchoringthe stab with wood screws, but most through bolt it, significantly weakeningthe longeron more than a screw would. That's where my longerons brokeduring a ground loop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Scouting for a new home
Original Posted By: Rick Schreiber
That would be awesome, thanks!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:30:48 -0600
That would be awesome, thanks!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:30:48 -0600
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail End
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
John,It's up to you. You can do as Rick did, or you can just leave out the tailpostuntil you're ready to join up the fuselage sides. Considerably easier to onlyhave to bevel the top and bottom longerons than it is to bevel the longeronsAND the tailpost.I left the tailpost loose until I joined the sides together. You could make thetailpost a bit wider, as suggested by Tools, and plane off the extra materialbefore gluing on the rear gusset plates, but the taper is quite slight, andwithin T-88's gap-filling abilities if you want to use the standard 1" x 1" tailpost.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
John,It's up to you. You can do as Rick did, or you can just leave out the tailpostuntil you're ready to join up the fuselage sides. Considerably easier to onlyhave to bevel the top and bottom longerons than it is to bevel the longeronsAND the tailpost.I left the tailpost loose until I joined the sides together. You could make thetailpost a bit wider, as suggested by Tools, and plane off the extra materialbefore gluing on the rear gusset plates, but the taper is quite slight, andwithin T-88's gap-filling abilities if you want to use the standard 1" x 1" tailpost.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail End
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I did mine as Rick described. Worked fine.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
I did mine as Rick described. Worked fine.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail End
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,I think it is easiest to frame up the tailpost with 1" pieces, add the outside gussets. You can then scribe a 1/2" line on each side and take a disc grinder with coarse paper to it. The tail post will sand down quickly, and you can feel your way into the proper angle. It will be very easy to clamp the two sides together, that way, and all should take less than 10 minutes!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
John,I think it is easiest to frame up the tailpost with 1" pieces, add the outside gussets. You can then scribe a 1/2" line on each side and take a disc grinder with coarse paper to it. The tail post will sand down quickly, and you can feel your way into the proper angle. It will be very easy to clamp the two sides together, that way, and all should take less than 10 minutes!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Tail End
Original Posted By: JOSEPH SWITHIN
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Original Posted By: Peter Johnson
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail End
Original Posted By: "Robert S. Edson"
Great advice, great pictures. Thanks all, I think I got it!John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:07:42 -0600
Great advice, great pictures. Thanks all, I think I got it!John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:07:42 -0600