Original Posted By: larharris2 Harris
Just kicking around and idea....In '09, for the 80th anniversary of the "Air Camper" several of us flew as a groupto Oshkosh. We made a humble little statement that Pietenpols and their buildersare alive and well. Overall it was a success and created a lot of memoriesfor a lot of people. I also believe it kick started several builds. Ithink any design that has endured like the Pietenpol design has deserves to berecognized at least every 5 years.Any interest out there in doing something similar to what we did in '09? It wasalso done in '99 and '89. Maybe it's a little premature to think about doingit again, but every 10 years just seems like a long time to put together a littleOshkosh celebration. What has worked in the past has been to congregateat Brodhead for the regular Piet fly-in then gather together and fly en massto Oshkosh on Sunday morning. There would have to be lots of cooperation withthe OSH tower and EAA folks. They'd have to want to recognize the 85th YearAnniversary to make it really cool. In the past we've had a few "ins" when itcame to dealing with those folks.What do all the flyers or organizers think about this? I sure had a Piet-loadof fun in '09. Besides one of my sweet kids dropped and broke my mug that I gotfor flying in there. I need to get another one...Don EmchNX899DEP.S. It's okay to shoot the idea down... won't hurt my feelings. :)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
I have been slowly getting all my systems in place to finally fly my Pietup to Brodhead. I am on the fence about OSH, but if others want to go in agaggle, I'm in!As to cooperation with OSH organizers, I'd love to see it. At one pointthe powers that be were wringing their hands about declining numbers of"antique" planes attending. I pointed out to them that they cannot expectantique planes to flock to a venue that forces them to operate with modernstrictures such as hard-surface runways and ignoring crosswinds. Ourplanes and their cohorts were designed at a time when most "airports" weresimply open fields. All landings were done into the wind and on grass. Ican land on hard surfaces, but for what we are all about, the obviouschoice is Pioneer Airfield. Also, wouldn't it be cool to have a bunch ofPiets parked around Bernard's old hangar?Those comments were sent in '09, after some kerfuffles with the Pietsbeing forced to land on hard surfaces in challenging winds. So far Ihaven't gotten a response.--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 3:02 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:>>Just kicking around and idea....>>In '09, for the 80th anniversary of the "Air Camper" several of us flew>as a group to Oshkosh. We made a humble little statement that Pietenpols>and their builders are alive and well. Overall it was a success and>created a lot of memories for a lot of people. I also believe it kick>started several builds. I think any design that has endured like the>Pietenpol design has deserves to be recognized at least every 5 years.>>Any interest out there in doing something similar to what we did in '09?>It was also done in '99 and '89. Maybe it's a little premature to think>about doing it again, but every 10 years just seems like a long time to>put together a little Oshkosh celebration. What has worked in the past>has been to congregate at Brodhead for the regular Piet fly-in then>gather together and fly en mass to Oshkosh on Sunday morning. There>would have to be lots of cooperation with the OSH tower and EAA folks.>They'd have to want to recognize the 85th Year Anniversary to make it>really cool. In the past we've had a few "ins" when it came to dealing>with those folks.>>What do all the flyers or organizers think about this? I sure had a>Piet-load of fun in '09. Besides one of my sweet kids dropped and broke>my mug that I got for flying in there. I need to get another one...>>Don Emch>NX899DE>>P.S. It's okay to shoot the idea down... won't hurt my feelings.
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I have been slowly getting all my systems in place to finally fly my Pietup to Brodhead. I am on the fence about OSH, but if others want to go in agaggle, I'm in!As to cooperation with OSH organizers, I'd love to see it. At one pointthe powers that be were wringing their hands about declining numbers of"antique" planes attending. I pointed out to them that they cannot expectantique planes to flock to a venue that forces them to operate with modernstrictures such as hard-surface runways and ignoring crosswinds. Ourplanes and their cohorts were designed at a time when most "airports" weresimply open fields. All landings were done into the wind and on grass. Ican land on hard surfaces, but for what we are all about, the obviouschoice is Pioneer Airfield. Also, wouldn't it be cool to have a bunch ofPiets parked around Bernard's old hangar?Those comments were sent in '09, after some kerfuffles with the Pietsbeing forced to land on hard surfaces in challenging winds. So far Ihaven't gotten a response.--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 3:02 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:>>Just kicking around and idea....>>In '09, for the 80th anniversary of the "Air Camper" several of us flew>as a group to Oshkosh. We made a humble little statement that Pietenpols>and their builders are alive and well. Overall it was a success and>created a lot of memories for a lot of people. I also believe it kick>started several builds. I think any design that has endured like the>Pietenpol design has deserves to be recognized at least every 5 years.>>Any interest out there in doing something similar to what we did in '09?>It was also done in '99 and '89. Maybe it's a little premature to think>about doing it again, but every 10 years just seems like a long time to>put together a little Oshkosh celebration. What has worked in the past>has been to congregate at Brodhead for the regular Piet fly-in then>gather together and fly en mass to Oshkosh on Sunday morning. There>would have to be lots of cooperation with the OSH tower and EAA folks.>They'd have to want to recognize the 85th Year Anniversary to make it>really cool. In the past we've had a few "ins" when it came to dealing>with those folks.>>What do all the flyers or organizers think about this? I sure had a>Piet-load of fun in '09. Besides one of my sweet kids dropped and broke>my mug that I got for flying in there. I need to get another one...>>Don Emch>NX899DE>>P.S. It's okay to shoot the idea down... won't hurt my feelings.
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Original Posted By: "echobravo4"
Jeff,I landed on the hard surface with a stupid stiff crosswind at OSH that year. manyof the guys in the gaggle lined up on the runway and then in the last hundredfeet or so just side stepped over and landed on the grass beside the runway.As far as I know nothing was ever said to them.Flying in there in a gaggle does ease a little of the stress and might be a goodopportunity for those wanting to get their chance to go to the big show.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
Jeff,I landed on the hard surface with a stupid stiff crosswind at OSH that year. manyof the guys in the gaggle lined up on the runway and then in the last hundredfeet or so just side stepped over and landed on the grass beside the runway.As far as I know nothing was ever said to them.Flying in there in a gaggle does ease a little of the stress and might be a goodopportunity for those wanting to get their chance to go to the big show.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
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Original Posted By: "tools"
I would love to do that!Hoping to have mine done for the 90thTho'--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
I would love to do that!Hoping to have mine done for the 90thTho'--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
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Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I've got a few in's with Oshkosh organizers, would be happy to do what I can.Piet's hangar is probably out do to Kidventure, which takes Pioneer field out withit.An EARLY arrival is probably the best plan, weather and traffic wise. Would behappy to host an evening event here in Oshkosh in the firehouse. I've got agreat meeting area that could easily hold 20 to 30 people, and if there's more,I'll just open the whole place. For folks that fly in, we could set a meetingplace and I'll pick up as many as I can in the old 1929 LaFrance fire truck!If there were at least 5 or 6 planes, I imagine we could try to get them together,would be fun to have a old Ford car or truck parked with them! The EAA hasan old T, would work if nothing else pans out. I could probably get the EAA'sdisplays out of Bernie's hangar to put with the airplanes for the public'sviewing pleasure, would make it more formal looking as a group. I'd even be happy to get a beer going for the event that we could tap that evening.What's the consensus on style? The firehouse is located at 6th and Main, probably two miles or so from the field.Half a dozen great bars and restaurants within walking distance. Google"Brooklyn Firehouse Oshkosh" to see it and find some pictures (from the real estateadd, think they're still online) of the venue.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
I've got a few in's with Oshkosh organizers, would be happy to do what I can.Piet's hangar is probably out do to Kidventure, which takes Pioneer field out withit.An EARLY arrival is probably the best plan, weather and traffic wise. Would behappy to host an evening event here in Oshkosh in the firehouse. I've got agreat meeting area that could easily hold 20 to 30 people, and if there's more,I'll just open the whole place. For folks that fly in, we could set a meetingplace and I'll pick up as many as I can in the old 1929 LaFrance fire truck!If there were at least 5 or 6 planes, I imagine we could try to get them together,would be fun to have a old Ford car or truck parked with them! The EAA hasan old T, would work if nothing else pans out. I could probably get the EAA'sdisplays out of Bernie's hangar to put with the airplanes for the public'sviewing pleasure, would make it more formal looking as a group. I'd even be happy to get a beer going for the event that we could tap that evening.What's the consensus on style? The firehouse is located at 6th and Main, probably two miles or so from the field.Half a dozen great bars and restaurants within walking distance. Google"Brooklyn Firehouse Oshkosh" to see it and find some pictures (from the real estateadd, think they're still online) of the venue.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
As far as having an "in", and not to put anybody on the spot, but remember thestory about Doc Mosher driving right past the gate guard to get in at OSH? Whatif Doc leads the gaggle?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
As far as having an "in", and not to put anybody on the spot, but remember thestory about Doc Mosher driving right past the gate guard to get in at OSH? Whatif Doc leads the gaggle?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Boy, that sounds like a gaggle of even better ideas! One thing about OSH -you're never more than two blocks from a bar, once you get off the field.;)As to the other, having been involved in organizing large conventions, Iknow that every decision is a compromise. But, it sure seems like a hugewaste of Pioneer Airfield to have the helicopters and Kidventure shut itdown to most other uses. Kidventure, if it's still held in a big tent,could really be anywhere there's a large field (like the OTHER side of themuseum, or even in the big, old exhibits building that apparently isn'tbeing used at all this year). And, obviously, helicopters can operatealmost anywhere.I know, I know, there are probably a lot of domino effects that result inthe current set up, but talk about a natural for antique planes. I don'treally grock the purpose of Pioneer Airfield if it's not used at theassociation's premier event to promote...pioneering aviation!--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 4:07 PM, "tools" wrote:>>I've got a few in's with Oshkosh organizers, would be happy to do what I>can.>>Piet's hangar is probably out do to Kidventure, which takes Pioneer field>out with it.>>An EARLY arrival is probably the best plan, weather and traffic wise.>Would be happy to host an evening event here in Oshkosh in the firehouse.> I've got a great meeting area that could easily hold 20 to 30 people,>and if there's more, I'll just open the whole place. For folks that fly>in, we could set a meeting place and I'll pick up as many as I can in the>old 1929 LaFrance fire truck!>>If there were at least 5 or 6 planes, I imagine we could try to get them>together, would be fun to have a old Ford car or truck parked with them!>The EAA has an old T, would work if nothing else pans out. I could>probably get the EAA's displays out of Bernie's hangar to put with the>airplanes for the public's viewing pleasure, would make it more formal>looking as a group.>>I'd even be happy to get a beer going for the event that we could tap>that evening. What's the consensus on style?>>The firehouse is located at 6th and Main, probably two miles or so from>the field. Half a dozen great bars and restaurants within walking>distance. Google "Brooklyn Firehouse Oshkosh" to see it and find some>pictures (from the real estate add, think they're still online) of the>venue.>>Tools>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
Boy, that sounds like a gaggle of even better ideas! One thing about OSH -you're never more than two blocks from a bar, once you get off the field.;)As to the other, having been involved in organizing large conventions, Iknow that every decision is a compromise. But, it sure seems like a hugewaste of Pioneer Airfield to have the helicopters and Kidventure shut itdown to most other uses. Kidventure, if it's still held in a big tent,could really be anywhere there's a large field (like the OTHER side of themuseum, or even in the big, old exhibits building that apparently isn'tbeing used at all this year). And, obviously, helicopters can operatealmost anywhere.I know, I know, there are probably a lot of domino effects that result inthe current set up, but talk about a natural for antique planes. I don'treally grock the purpose of Pioneer Airfield if it's not used at theassociation's premier event to promote...pioneering aviation!--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 4:07 PM, "tools" wrote:>>I've got a few in's with Oshkosh organizers, would be happy to do what I>can.>>Piet's hangar is probably out do to Kidventure, which takes Pioneer field>out with it.>>An EARLY arrival is probably the best plan, weather and traffic wise.>Would be happy to host an evening event here in Oshkosh in the firehouse.> I've got a great meeting area that could easily hold 20 to 30 people,>and if there's more, I'll just open the whole place. For folks that fly>in, we could set a meeting place and I'll pick up as many as I can in the>old 1929 LaFrance fire truck!>>If there were at least 5 or 6 planes, I imagine we could try to get them>together, would be fun to have a old Ford car or truck parked with them!>The EAA has an old T, would work if nothing else pans out. I could>probably get the EAA's displays out of Bernie's hangar to put with the>airplanes for the public's viewing pleasure, would make it more formal>looking as a group.>>I'd even be happy to get a beer going for the event that we could tap>that evening. What's the consensus on style?>>The firehouse is located at 6th and Main, probably two miles or so from>the field. Half a dozen great bars and restaurants within walking>distance. Google "Brooklyn Firehouse Oshkosh" to see it and find some>pictures (from the real estate add, think they're still online) of the>venue.>>Tools>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's been 85 years, ya know....
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
In '09 we went the formal route and the EAA folks were involved in organizing thegaggle coming in and they promoted it in literature ahead of time. I'd behappy to organize something if I had the right people to talk to at OSH. Thelast time Bill Rewey was a key organizer and did a lot of the talking to EAA.That worked out really well. If we think we have enough interest I could goa step further and contact the EAA. but we'd have to have some real interestfrom the flyers.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
In '09 we went the formal route and the EAA folks were involved in organizing thegaggle coming in and they promoted it in literature ahead of time. I'd behappy to organize something if I had the right people to talk to at OSH. Thelast time Bill Rewey was a key organizer and did a lot of the talking to EAA.That worked out really well. If we think we have enough interest I could goa step further and contact the EAA. but we'd have to have some real interestfrom the flyers.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
If I can make to Brodhead, then I'm willing to commit to Oshkosh. Irealize the former is the big "if" for a guy from Atlanta, but what can Isay? The good Lord willing and the crick don't rise...--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 4:38 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:>>In '09 we went the formal route and the EAA folks were involved in>organizing the gaggle coming in and they promoted it in literature ahead>of time. I'd be happy to organize something if I had the right people to>talk to at OSH. The last time Bill Rewey was a key organizer and did a>lot of the talking to EAA. That worked out really well. If we think we>have enough interest I could go a step further and contact the EAA. but>we'd have to have some real interest from the flyers.>>Don Emch>NX899DE>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________
If I can make to Brodhead, then I'm willing to commit to Oshkosh. Irealize the former is the big "if" for a guy from Atlanta, but what can Isay? The good Lord willing and the crick don't rise...--Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVOAssociate Professor of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineOn 3/12/14 4:38 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:>>In '09 we went the formal route and the EAA folks were involved in>organizing the gaggle coming in and they promoted it in literature ahead>of time. I'd be happy to organize something if I had the right people to>talk to at OSH. The last time Bill Rewey was a key organizer and did a>lot of the talking to EAA. That worked out really well. If we think we>have enough interest I could go a step further and contact the EAA. but>we'd have to have some real interest from the flyers.>>Don Emch>NX899DE>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________