Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol Gatheringat Frazier Lake Skypark, Ca! (And, Yes, there really is a "Frazier Lake"seaplane base for all you amphib Pietenpolers!). This event was held inunison with Frazier Lake's monthly Display Day, making it possible to seeand visit with airplanes and owners of some really cool stuff.We actually had 3 flying Piets, 2 of which all of you Brodheaders have seen(#.1554, Pietenpols as far as you can see.).Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event, and extraspecial thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and family forhosting EVERYTHING! Personally great for me, was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie inRyan's first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good looking guy onthe right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is the dashing piloton the left. Charlie is smiling because he just saved, with masterfulpiloting skills, his beautiful Pietenpol from a near catastrophic landingfrom a x-wind gust.To our great enjoyment, and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol event, wewere blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKEL!! Since WE are neophytes when itcomes to Piet gatherings, and our conversations sometimes stray from thepoint of the whole affair, Jim has the notorious special talent of steeringthe conversation back to Pietenpols, and how these little airplanes add tothe meaning of life.I'm sure there is no connection, but after Jim had left, on Sunday morning,one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping area and askedif anyone had seen his air compressor.seems it was 'lost.' I assured himthat these kinds of events are common at Piet gatherings, and that I wassure that the air compressor wasn't really 'lost'..Sorry, I did a poor job of photo essaying everything, and am hoping some ofmy fellow builders did a better job!Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (19 ribs down.) ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Great shots thanks Mark! In picture 54, it appears the elevator cable isrouted through the horizontal stabilizer, is that true? Also, can you tellme what picture 59 is?Thanks,JackDSM _____
Great shots thanks Mark! In picture 54, it appears the elevator cable isrouted through the horizontal stabilizer, is that true? Also, can you tellme what picture 59 is?Thanks,JackDSM _____
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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,#54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld's Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the next pic how hehas modified his control cable to be external.that's why the routing thruthe stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a HUGE baggage compartmentbehind the pilot seat!#59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they areoptional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable routing istypical for that wing (whichever it was).Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear18 ribs done
Jack,#54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld's Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the next pic how hehas modified his control cable to be external.that's why the routing thruthe stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a HUGE baggage compartmentbehind the pilot seat!#59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they areoptional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable routing istypical for that wing (whichever it was).Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear18 ribs done
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Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
Thanks, very short aileron hornJackSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2010, at 1:39 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Jack,>>> #54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld=99s Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the next pi > c how he has modified his control cable to be externalthat=99s why > the routing thru the stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a > HUGE baggage compartment behind the pilot seat!>>> #59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they are > optional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable > routing is typical for that wing (whichever it was).>>> Gary Boothe>> Cool, CA>> Pietenpol>> WW Corvair Conversion>> Tail done, Fuselage on gear>> 18 ribs done>>
Thanks, very short aileron hornJackSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2010, at 1:39 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Jack,>>> #54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld=99s Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the next pi > c how he has modified his control cable to be externalthat=99s why > the routing thru the stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a > HUGE baggage compartment behind the pilot seat!>>> #59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they are > optional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable > routing is typical for that wing (whichever it was).>>> Gary Boothe>> Cool, CA>> Pietenpol>> WW Corvair Conversion>> Tail done, Fuselage on gear>> 18 ribs done>>
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Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
I would like to add my thanks to Mike Groah and Charlie Miller for a well run event at a fine location. The planes=2C the food and especially the fellowship were all superb. As was said=2C it gave a chance to make list names real people with good ideas and nice personalities. I would also like to thank the pilots who brought their planes to the meet. I hope next year even more will come and there will be a chance to pick up even more ideas to make our own projects better. Maybe some day Mike and I will have our plane there as well. (who knows=2C it may get done some day) If I put in enough more money and time I may even get to own 41% and even get a ride. Set aside some time for the west coast meet next year. Maybe Jim can come back and get some air tools to go with the compressor. Thanks to all that came and made the meet a success. Vic Groah MX414MV
I would like to add my thanks to Mike Groah and Charlie Miller for a well run event at a fine location. The planes=2C the food and especially the fellowship were all superb. As was said=2C it gave a chance to make list names real people with good ideas and nice personalities. I would also like to thank the pilots who brought their planes to the meet. I hope next year even more will come and there will be a chance to pick up even more ideas to make our own projects better. Maybe some day Mike and I will have our plane there as well. (who knows=2C it may get done some day) If I put in enough more money and time I may even get to own 41% and even get a ride. Set aside some time for the west coast meet next year. Maybe Jim can come back and get some air tools to go with the compressor. Thanks to all that came and made the meet a success. Vic Groah MX414MV
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Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Hi Chuck,I am also an EAA Tech Counselor. I have been doing it for the past 15 years orso and I am glad to hear that you are getting some outside help from all possibleresources. Kudo's to you.If I came out and looked at you wings, I would also refer you to 43.13 and suggestnew spars. But keep in mind that EAA Tech Counselors can only offer suggestionsand help you make safe building decisions. I have found many unsafe conditions,even in the Kit airplanes. Don't beat yourself up over it. The advice from this group is right on and certainly makes this forum worth itsweight in gold. Keep listening and asking questions and you will have a niceairplane that you will feel safe flying in and be proud of.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Hi Chuck,I am also an EAA Tech Counselor. I have been doing it for the past 15 years orso and I am glad to hear that you are getting some outside help from all possibleresources. Kudo's to you.If I came out and looked at you wings, I would also refer you to 43.13 and suggestnew spars. But keep in mind that EAA Tech Counselors can only offer suggestionsand help you make safe building decisions. I have found many unsafe conditions,even in the Kit airplanes. Don't beat yourself up over it. The advice from this group is right on and certainly makes this forum worth itsweight in gold. Keep listening and asking questions and you will have a niceairplane that you will feel safe flying in and be proud of.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Very nice, Now you're getting it!"oh! and we have 3 hours ground run time on our six cylinder "aircraft engine"--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Very nice, Now you're getting it!"oh! and we have 3 hours ground run time on our six cylinder "aircraft engine"--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "regchief"
Well Lowell, I think you get the award for "most calm reaction to a very aggravatingset of circumstances". That kind of attitude will come in handy as you progressthrough the build process.Be sure to share some photos as you put your Monopoly board together.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Well Lowell, I think you get the award for "most calm reaction to a very aggravatingset of circumstances". That kind of attitude will come in handy as you progressthrough the build process.Be sure to share some photos as you put your Monopoly board together.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: regchief
Hel...I mean, Heck Yeah!!!Gary - see you there?-----Original Message-----
Hel...I mean, Heck Yeah!!!Gary - see you there?-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "regchief"
I only get one day off a week, and since I have been in California the last 9 months,it has managed to rain about 70% of the time, and only for that day.I amstarting to think I am cursed!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
I only get one day off a week, and since I have been in California the last 9 months,it has managed to rain about 70% of the time, and only for that day.I amstarting to think I am cursed!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
I will drive up though so I can meet you all!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I will drive up though so I can meet you all!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Where are you driving from, Regchief?Gary,donotarchive-----Original Message-----
Where are you driving from, Regchief?Gary,donotarchive-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "regchief"
Hey Guys & Gals,I have spent the last two days trying to get my turtle deck to look right. I havebeen through this list and West Coast Piet and have seen some beautiful work,but I can't find a good explanation on how to measure and cut to get it asstraight as possible. Help needed!I have been through a bunch of poster board trying different methods. I know therehas to be an easier way.Chuck Borsuk989CBRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Hey Guys & Gals,I have spent the last two days trying to get my turtle deck to look right. I havebeen through this list and West Coast Piet and have seen some beautiful work,but I can't find a good explanation on how to measure and cut to get it asstraight as possible. Help needed!I have been through a bunch of poster board trying different methods. I know therehas to be an easier way.Chuck Borsuk989CBRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
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Original Posted By: Perry Shipman
Skip, Jim is asking for your email or home address. Says he goes fishing up by your place and would like to stop by and see youDave Nielsensentuchows(at)aol.comAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ========-= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum --= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription,-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,-= Photoshare, and much much more:--= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ========-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS --= Same great content also available via the Web Forums!--= --> http://forums.matronics.com--========================-= - List Contribution Web Site --= Thank you for your generous support!-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin.-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution-= ... ______Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:38:17 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Skip, Jim is asking for your email or home address. Says he goes fishing up by your place and would like to stop by and see youDave Nielsensentuchows(at)aol.comAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ========-= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum --= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription,-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,-= Photoshare, and much much more:--= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ========-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS --= Same great content also available via the Web Forums!--= --> http://forums.matronics.com--========================-= - List Contribution Web Site --= Thank you for your generous support!-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin.-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution-= ... ______Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:38:17 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow template
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
...is not going to happen for me this year. Scout is still down in Texas=2C I'm in Oregon=2C and I'll be working on two final exams .Next year for sure!Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford=2C ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow template
...is not going to happen for me this year. Scout is still down in Texas=2C I'm in Oregon=2C and I'll be working on two final exams .Next year for sure!Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford=2C ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow template
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Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Joe;I see nobody else has chimed in on this, so maybe I can help. I don't have thetemplates but I do have a beat-up pair of eyebrows that I can pop in a box andmail to you to use for templates. Let me pull them out of the storage unitand shoot you a picture to see if they might serve for what you want. I don'tknow exactly what they're off of... someone told me they came from a Cub butI don't think they're as tall as Cub eyebrows. Anyway, I'll put up a picturehere and then you can let me know.Where are you located?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow template
Joe;I see nobody else has chimed in on this, so maybe I can help. I don't have thetemplates but I do have a beat-up pair of eyebrows that I can pop in a box andmail to you to use for templates. Let me pull them out of the storage unitand shoot you a picture to see if they might serve for what you want. I don'tknow exactly what they're off of... someone told me they came from a Cub butI don't think they're as tall as Cub eyebrows. Anyway, I'll put up a picturehere and then you can let me know.Where are you located?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow template
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Original Posted By: "nightmare"
Joe,I don't think there's a PDF file available for the patterns.There was a link recently for a set of full size plans, available for sale at avery reasonable price, from the Cub Club, but you do have to be a member of theClub to be able to buy them.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... yebrowAlso, a few years ago, Chuck Gantzer was selling full size patterns. Not sure ifthey're still available.http://nx770cg.com/Video.htmlBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aileron quick disconnect
Joe,I don't think there's a PDF file available for the patterns.There was a link recently for a set of full size plans, available for sale at avery reasonable price, from the Cub Club, but you do have to be a member of theClub to be able to buy them.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... yebrowAlso, a few years ago, Chuck Gantzer was selling full size patterns. Not sure ifthey're still available.http://nx770cg.com/Video.htmlBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aileron quick disconnect
Original Posted By: Mario Giacummo
thanks guys, appreciate it. PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
thanks guys, appreciate it. PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: Joe Street
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow templateHere I hace a very good pattern, you can upload it with any graphicprogram, and print in the size you want.Regards[image: Im=E1genes integradas 1]Mario Giacummo... .. .-.. .- .- ...- . -. - ..- .-. .- . ... .--. . .-.. .. --. .-.--- ... .- --..-- .--. .-. --- -... .- .-.. .- .-. ..- - .. -. .- --..-- . ... -- --- .-. - .- .-.. !!!!!2012/5/28 Bill Church > billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>>> Joe,>> I don't think there's a PDF file available for the patterns.> There was a link recently for a set of full size plans, available for sale> at a very reasonable price, from the Cub Club, but you do have to be a> member of the Club to be able to buy them.> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ht=eyebrow> Also, a few years ago, Chuck Gantzer was selling full size patterns. Not> sure if they're still available.> http://nx770cg.com/Video.html> Bill C.>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:24:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Eyebrow templateHere I hace a very good pattern, you can upload it with any graphicprogram, and print in the size you want.Regards[image: Im=E1genes integradas 1]Mario Giacummo... .. .-.. .- .- ...- . -. - ..- .-. .- . ... .--. . .-.. .. --. .-.--- ... .- --..-- .--. .-. --- -... .- .-.. .- .-. ..- - .. -. .- --..-- . ... -- --- .-. - .- .-.. !!!!!2012/5/28 Bill Church > billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>>> Joe,>> I don't think there's a PDF file available for the patterns.> There was a link recently for a set of full size plans, available for sale> at a very reasonable price, from the Cub Club, but you do have to be a> member of the Club to be able to buy them.> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ht=eyebrow> Also, a few years ago, Chuck Gantzer was selling full size patterns. Not> sure if they're still available.> http://nx770cg.com/Video.html> Bill C.>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:24:39 -0400
Pietenpol-List: RE: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones [mailto:wd6bor(at)vom.com]
Ditto, that, Darrel!! And I was glad to see you there, too! Special thanksto Charlie for pressing on with the rides, even in less-than-optimumconditions. Both my son and grandson have received first rides in a Pietwith Charlie, as well as the wives of several builders.a very importantcontribution by him! It's looking good for at least 3 more Piets next year,including Kevin McDonald's Model A Piet from Vacaville.Gary BootheNX308MB
Ditto, that, Darrel!! And I was glad to see you there, too! Special thanksto Charlie for pressing on with the rides, even in less-than-optimumconditions. Both my son and grandson have received first rides in a Pietwith Charlie, as well as the wives of several builders.a very importantcontribution by him! It's looking good for at least 3 more Piets next year,including Kevin McDonald's Model A Piet from Vacaville.Gary BootheNX308MB
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Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
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Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Thanks, Charlie!The fly In was great this last Saturday. Thanks for hosting it! I really enjoyed seeing your Piet again and also Mike Madrid's. Both are beautiful and a great example of hard work and persistence. I know you did not build yours, Mike; but you do a great job maintaining it. It was great of you to fly it all the way from Lompoc..,... of course, that is not as far as going to Osh!Thanks for the great grub. I did not see a donation jug anywhere? Can we make a contribution to the food fund? I asked several people and nobody knew anything!Had a great trip home to Colusa. Let me know whenever anyone wants to get together, or fly somewhere together. I have foolishly planned a target date of next Summer to fly my Sky Scout!Thanks again for al the fun!Ray KrauseFlying the Waiex and building the Sky Scout ----- Original Message -----
Thanks, Charlie!The fly In was great this last Saturday. Thanks for hosting it! I really enjoyed seeing your Piet again and also Mike Madrid's. Both are beautiful and a great example of hard work and persistence. I know you did not build yours, Mike; but you do a great job maintaining it. It was great of you to fly it all the way from Lompoc..,... of course, that is not as far as going to Osh!Thanks for the great grub. I did not see a donation jug anywhere? Can we make a contribution to the food fund? I asked several people and nobody knew anything!Had a great trip home to Colusa. Let me know whenever anyone wants to get together, or fly somewhere together. I have foolishly planned a target date of next Summer to fly my Sky Scout!Thanks again for al the fun!Ray KrauseFlying the Waiex and building the Sky Scout ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Scott Liefeld
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gas tank strap padding
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
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Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Patrick Panzera
11 ish tomorrow Sent from my iPhoneOn May 31, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Scott Liefeld wrote:> Mike Madrid and my self are here. Already have seen Charlie. When should we be seeing the rest of you folks?> Cheers, Scott Liefeld> > Sent from my MOTOROLA ATRIX=84=A2 HD on AT&T> > > Michael Groah wrote:> > > > To those planning on flying into the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering this Saturday you need to remember your stakes and rope or other tie downs! > > This is going to be a great weekend and it looks like we're going to have a great turnout. I look forward to seeing all of you there. > > Mike Groah________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 15:16:02 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
11 ish tomorrow Sent from my iPhoneOn May 31, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Scott Liefeld wrote:> Mike Madrid and my self are here. Already have seen Charlie. When should we be seeing the rest of you folks?> Cheers, Scott Liefeld> > Sent from my MOTOROLA ATRIX=84=A2 HD on AT&T> > > Michael Groah wrote:> > > > To those planning on flying into the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering this Saturday you need to remember your stakes and rope or other tie downs! > > This is going to be a great weekend and it looks like we're going to have a great turnout. I look forward to seeing all of you there. > > Mike Groah________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 15:16:02 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: Scott Liefeld
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
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Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Well for what it's worth to the group, here is some files I created 2 years agoto potentially sell Riblett GAU30-612 rib jigs. I plotted the DAT files thathave been posted here before in my CAD software and the jig files were createdto be punched on a CNC router. My '613.5' jig was popped out this way and that'swhat I am building on.So, this is posted "as-is". It is accurate to the dat files I was given (and thecoorinates posted here as well), so have at it.As to the spar dimentions, they are spaced at 27.75" as per the original plans,and the internal struts and wing elements were dimensioned from the originalpiet FC-10 airfoil that I purchased (i.e.: The measurements for all related partswas taken from the original plans and copied to the new airfoil... so, howeverfar the spar was from the front of the airfoil, that's how far it was onmy plans...) I have chosen to fil the entire spar locations on my design topto bottom with a spar, as I am making my wing longer than plans (please, no flames:o) I am a heretic.Also, the attached DXF includes routing for the glue pots beneath the intersectionswhere the glue can drop down and not stick to the jig surface. That is whatthe 'pots' reference is for: glue "pots" beneath the junctions.Hope this helps anyone building a Riblett 612 airfoil! As always in Experimentalaviation, your altitude may vary...Enjoy!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ribl ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Well for what it's worth to the group, here is some files I created 2 years agoto potentially sell Riblett GAU30-612 rib jigs. I plotted the DAT files thathave been posted here before in my CAD software and the jig files were createdto be punched on a CNC router. My '613.5' jig was popped out this way and that'swhat I am building on.So, this is posted "as-is". It is accurate to the dat files I was given (and thecoorinates posted here as well), so have at it.As to the spar dimentions, they are spaced at 27.75" as per the original plans,and the internal struts and wing elements were dimensioned from the originalpiet FC-10 airfoil that I purchased (i.e.: The measurements for all related partswas taken from the original plans and copied to the new airfoil... so, howeverfar the spar was from the front of the airfoil, that's how far it was onmy plans...) I have chosen to fil the entire spar locations on my design topto bottom with a spar, as I am making my wing longer than plans (please, no flames:o) I am a heretic.Also, the attached DXF includes routing for the glue pots beneath the intersectionswhere the glue can drop down and not stick to the jig surface. That is whatthe 'pots' reference is for: glue "pots" beneath the junctions.Hope this helps anyone building a Riblett 612 airfoil! As always in Experimentalaviation, your altitude may vary...Enjoy!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ribl ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Wittman W-8 and W-10's are two place, but I think Steve did make a 4 place version.I don't think the plans were ever made widely available thou.Chuck Campbell wrote:> I always thought the Tailwind was 2-place. Wrong? Chuck> > -----------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Wittman W-8 and W-10's are two place, but I think Steve did make a 4 place version.I don't think the plans were ever made widely available thou.Chuck Campbell wrote:> I always thought the Tailwind was 2-place. Wrong? Chuck> > -----------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
Wow! Great shots Chris!It was a wonderful time to be sure. I am really amazed at how the whole Piet communityis so supportive and friendly. I was very glad to see you this year andhave a chance to chat a bit. What a great surprise to see Kevin and Shelleyas well!You definitely have a gift for getting some good shots of the planes.MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Wow! Great shots Chris!It was a wonderful time to be sure. I am really amazed at how the whole Piet communityis so supportive and friendly. I was very glad to see you this year andhave a chance to chat a bit. What a great surprise to see Kevin and Shelleyas well!You definitely have a gift for getting some good shots of the planes.MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
I had a great time. Thank you to all involved. It was great to have seven shipsthere and more people than could be counted. The food was outstanding andthe surprise campfire on Sat made far a great evening. I got to fly a whole 10hours in one weekend, now I'm in a recovery mode. It was great flying twoship halfway home with Mike Grogh, smooth air all the way to his place. The remainingdistance was a bit of challenge with rough air then flying through 3or 4 miles of thick smoke to find my home field. Inhaling the smoke was notfun, but home safe. Those who didn't get rides this year are first in line fornext year. Just come up to me and say (it's my turn). Absolute fun time. See you all next year.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I had a great time. Thank you to all involved. It was great to have seven shipsthere and more people than could be counted. The food was outstanding andthe surprise campfire on Sat made far a great evening. I got to fly a whole 10hours in one weekend, now I'm in a recovery mode. It was great flying twoship halfway home with Mike Grogh, smooth air all the way to his place. The remainingdistance was a bit of challenge with rough air then flying through 3or 4 miles of thick smoke to find my home field. Inhaling the smoke was notfun, but home safe. Those who didn't get rides this year are first in line fornext year. Just come up to me and say (it's my turn). Absolute fun time. See you all next year.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: hangar floor color
Original Posted By: "Pilot78"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: hangar floor color UNCLASSIFIED I have a newly constructed hangar. I will take posession this week and plan onstaining and sealing the floor. Any thoughts on color? I am thinking white or silver.Blue Skies,Steve DUNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: hangar floor color
Subject: Pietenpol-List: hangar floor color UNCLASSIFIED I have a newly constructed hangar. I will take posession this week and plan onstaining and sealing the floor. Any thoughts on color? I am thinking white or silver.Blue Skies,Steve DUNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: hangar floor color
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Steve,I used an epoxy floor system. It is a tan color with multi-colored sprinkles init. It hides dirt well and shines up nice when I want it to. Just don't weldclose to it.....just ask me how I know.BrianSLC-UTRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sout ... __________
Steve,I used an epoxy floor system. It is a tan color with multi-colored sprinkles init. It hides dirt well and shines up nice when I want it to. Just don't weldclose to it.....just ask me how I know.BrianSLC-UTRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sout ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: hangar floor color
Original Posted By: Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB
I would avoid white. I know it reflects light the best of any color and lightens up the shop for the least outlay of lighting dollars and you will be able to easily find anything you drop but every hair will look like a crack and it will always look dirty. Being a tilesetter I know the first two words out of a baby girls mouth aren't goo-goo or mama or dada they are "white grout" which they dwell on in the back of their mind until they have a white tile floor or die whichever comes first and then every hair looks like a crack and every speck of dirt becomes an earth shattering experience until they get new tile. The cleaning becomes an obsession.dennis-----Original Message-----
I would avoid white. I know it reflects light the best of any color and lightens up the shop for the least outlay of lighting dollars and you will be able to easily find anything you drop but every hair will look like a crack and it will always look dirty. Being a tilesetter I know the first two words out of a baby girls mouth aren't goo-goo or mama or dada they are "white grout" which they dwell on in the back of their mind until they have a white tile floor or die whichever comes first and then every hair looks like a crack and every speck of dirt becomes an earth shattering experience until they get new tile. The cleaning becomes an obsession.dennis-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Between the barbecued chicken, the chocolate cheesecake, and more Piets thanwe sometimes see at Brodhead, it was a spectacular day.Thanks again to Charlie and Cecilia, Mike and Vic and everyone else involvedin putting it together.And thanks go, too, to Axel and Shelly for expending their hard-earnedfrequent-flyer miles to make the trip out. It was great to see everyone.(Oscar, you really need to fly 41CC down here next year.)Mike Hardaway-----Original Message-----
Between the barbecued chicken, the chocolate cheesecake, and more Piets thanwe sometimes see at Brodhead, it was a spectacular day.Thanks again to Charlie and Cecilia, Mike and Vic and everyone else involvedin putting it together.And thanks go, too, to Axel and Shelly for expending their hard-earnedfrequent-flyer miles to make the trip out. It was great to see everyone.(Oscar, you really need to fly 41CC down here next year.)Mike Hardaway-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Gary;Lives there the pilot who has not endured an ignominious scrape between gracefulgossamer and rough earth (or pavement)? Our airplanes are really quite delicatethings when you look at them. I was shocked, shocked to see and handle Scout'swings when they were not rigidly braced by the cable X's and wing struts,and to see the fuselage sitting on a trailer with no wings mounted. Reallya small and light craft, and a lot of flex when any single member is damagedor removed.I have felt like a small and light human while sitting in the cockpit, traversingsome thermals and turbulence and wind. The whole thing is really quite amazingwhen you look at it. The strength comes from the geometry, not from sheermass. If you take away any of the geometry, the thing collapses like a $2 suitcase.Take a look at the "Pietenpile" from Sun N Fun a few years ago, or thecrumpled wing of Mountain Piet. Without the rigidly triangulated structure,the airplane is nothing but a bag of bones inside a very thin fabric bag.Still, it is amazing and it is forgiving, and now you have one more story to tellover a pint of microbrew. "There I was, flat on my back, sun in my face, whenI felt the Hun's hot breath on my tail... and felt the sting of hot lead tracea row of holes through my wing spar." OK, so it's a crack in the spar andnot a row of 7.92mm bullet holes ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Gary;Lives there the pilot who has not endured an ignominious scrape between gracefulgossamer and rough earth (or pavement)? Our airplanes are really quite delicatethings when you look at them. I was shocked, shocked to see and handle Scout'swings when they were not rigidly braced by the cable X's and wing struts,and to see the fuselage sitting on a trailer with no wings mounted. Reallya small and light craft, and a lot of flex when any single member is damagedor removed.I have felt like a small and light human while sitting in the cockpit, traversingsome thermals and turbulence and wind. The whole thing is really quite amazingwhen you look at it. The strength comes from the geometry, not from sheermass. If you take away any of the geometry, the thing collapses like a $2 suitcase.Take a look at the "Pietenpile" from Sun N Fun a few years ago, or thecrumpled wing of Mountain Piet. Without the rigidly triangulated structure,the airplane is nothing but a bag of bones inside a very thin fabric bag.Still, it is amazing and it is forgiving, and now you have one more story to tellover a pint of microbrew. "There I was, flat on my back, sun in my face, whenI felt the Hun's hot breath on my tail... and felt the sting of hot lead tracea row of holes through my wing spar." OK, so it's a crack in the spar andnot a row of 7.92mm bullet holes ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "Chris"
Oh, man-! Scout and I will make the journey in 2014 for sure! If nothing else,I've simply got to do a formation flight off of Mike Madrid's wing! His airplaneand Scout look very much alike.I should be able to give rides to anyone who can fit into the front cockpit ofan Air Camper without spreading margarine all over yourself first. And if you'retaildragger current and willing, I'll fly front cockpit and YOU can fly Scout.I love going for rides!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Oh, man-! Scout and I will make the journey in 2014 for sure! If nothing else,I've simply got to do a formation flight off of Mike Madrid's wing! His airplaneand Scout look very much alike.I should be able to give rides to anyone who can fit into the front cockpit ofan Air Camper without spreading margarine all over yourself first. And if you'retaildragger current and willing, I'll fly front cockpit and YOU can fly Scout.I love going for rides!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Builders started using the Matronics site in 1929 - so they have had a good headstart...! I keep a couple "most recent" project photos on my phone since friends are alwaysasking to see the latest progress. I also have a 1931photo Bernard took ofhis Velie-powered ship that I am using as my inspiration. I tell people that photowas taken in 1931 - before they had cell phones.......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Builders started using the Matronics site in 1929 - so they have had a good headstart...! I keep a couple "most recent" project photos on my phone since friends are alwaysasking to see the latest progress. I also have a 1931photo Bernard took ofhis Velie-powered ship that I am using as my inspiration. I tell people that photowas taken in 1931 - before they had cell phones.......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Jeff; that's the reason I asked the question. My A65 had cooling eyebrows butdidn't have intercylinder baffles. I added those later. When I changed enginesI took the eyebrows off the 65 and put them on the 75 but I never liked them...too many metal fatigue failures of mounting tabs, they stuck up too high,plus my hangar mate pointed out to me that there were large gaps all around theeyebrows, as well as in the rear and at the spark plug holes. So... I nowhave repro Cub eyebrows and they fit very snugly all around. I also installedrubber seals around the spark plug access holes to contain the cooling air. This is shown on my website, here:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/eyebrows.htmlI do not have CHT readout on my engine, but I think I now have the cooling basescovered as well as I can.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Jeff; that's the reason I asked the question. My A65 had cooling eyebrows butdidn't have intercylinder baffles. I added those later. When I changed enginesI took the eyebrows off the 65 and put them on the 75 but I never liked them...too many metal fatigue failures of mounting tabs, they stuck up too high,plus my hangar mate pointed out to me that there were large gaps all around theeyebrows, as well as in the rear and at the spark plug holes. So... I nowhave repro Cub eyebrows and they fit very snugly all around. I also installedrubber seals around the spark plug access holes to contain the cooling air. This is shown on my website, here:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/eyebrows.htmlI do not have CHT readout on my engine, but I think I now have the cooling basescovered as well as I can.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Decision has been made: I will not be at Frazier Lake this year. Last WednesdayI had the airplane over to Beagle Sky for Steve Pankonin, the A&P, to do thecondition inspection. Although he signed me off, there are a couple of squawksthat he would like for me to take care of, and one of those almost groundedthe airplane. Steve let me go on the assurance that I would take care of it,and I will, but I'm not going to fly over the mountains or in bumpy air withit like this.One of the lower strut attachment fork ends is bent. I know when it happened,because it's been like this since the nose-over in 2004. See photo, attached.Pay no attention to the mis-matched paint over that fabric patch... I have sometouch-up to do here and there, and that is just the first coat. Anyway, thethreaded end of the fork is stout and it may be just fine like that forever.I'm going to replace it.What really chilled me was that I pulled the airplane into Steve's hangar and removedall the inspection covers, cowlings, and access plates with the anticipationthat Steve wouldn't find much, if anything, amiss. Almost as if he wasclairvoyant, he walked over to the engine with his inspection light and startedwiggling things on the carb. He called me over and pointed to the castellatednut that holds the throttle cable ball-end to the throttle lever. No cotterpin, and the nut was only holding on by a couple of threads. Had it taken mejust a few more minutes to fly from Medford to Beagle Sky, that nut would havewalked off and I would have either made a dead-stick landing or had to managewild and unpredictable power by using the mag switches. For the next fourhours I pretty much just shut up and answered Steve's questions as he and I wentthrough the airplane. I also didn't feel like much of a hotshot mechanic anymore,either.Steve wants me to mount the ELT more securely in the tail, he wants to see thatfork end replaced, he wants me to shim the axles to correct some slight misalignmentof the camber on both of the mains, and one or two other little things.The rest of the inspection went almost flawlessly, and the engine cylinderleakdown test showed 79-79-78-79 so that went well.So... with Frazier Lake off my calendar, the next best thing is for me to makea Saturday or Sunday flight down to the Sacramento area to visit "the locals",as well as a flight up to the Salem area to visit all the pilots and buildersthat I know around Independence Airpark. Those will be manageable one-day summerfly-outs in the coming weeks. Meanwhile, I'll be thinking about cotter pinsand stupidity.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Decision has been made: I will not be at Frazier Lake this year. Last WednesdayI had the airplane over to Beagle Sky for Steve Pankonin, the A&P, to do thecondition inspection. Although he signed me off, there are a couple of squawksthat he would like for me to take care of, and one of those almost groundedthe airplane. Steve let me go on the assurance that I would take care of it,and I will, but I'm not going to fly over the mountains or in bumpy air withit like this.One of the lower strut attachment fork ends is bent. I know when it happened,because it's been like this since the nose-over in 2004. See photo, attached.Pay no attention to the mis-matched paint over that fabric patch... I have sometouch-up to do here and there, and that is just the first coat. Anyway, thethreaded end of the fork is stout and it may be just fine like that forever.I'm going to replace it.What really chilled me was that I pulled the airplane into Steve's hangar and removedall the inspection covers, cowlings, and access plates with the anticipationthat Steve wouldn't find much, if anything, amiss. Almost as if he wasclairvoyant, he walked over to the engine with his inspection light and startedwiggling things on the carb. He called me over and pointed to the castellatednut that holds the throttle cable ball-end to the throttle lever. No cotterpin, and the nut was only holding on by a couple of threads. Had it taken mejust a few more minutes to fly from Medford to Beagle Sky, that nut would havewalked off and I would have either made a dead-stick landing or had to managewild and unpredictable power by using the mag switches. For the next fourhours I pretty much just shut up and answered Steve's questions as he and I wentthrough the airplane. I also didn't feel like much of a hotshot mechanic anymore,either.Steve wants me to mount the ELT more securely in the tail, he wants to see thatfork end replaced, he wants me to shim the axles to correct some slight misalignmentof the camber on both of the mains, and one or two other little things.The rest of the inspection went almost flawlessly, and the engine cylinderleakdown test showed 79-79-78-79 so that went well.So... with Frazier Lake off my calendar, the next best thing is for me to makea Saturday or Sunday flight down to the Sacramento area to visit "the locals",as well as a flight up to the Salem area to visit all the pilots and buildersthat I know around Independence Airpark. Those will be manageable one-day summerfly-outs in the coming weeks. Meanwhile, I'll be thinking about cotter pinsand stupidity.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Oscar, did you lower your eye borows to give a lower profile or did they come lower.Gardiner. Also do you need the I inner cyl baffles?Sent from my iPad> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:25 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Jeff; that's the reason I asked the question. My A65 had cooling eyebrows butdidn't have intercylinder baffles. I added those later. When I changed enginesI took the eyebrows off the 65 and put them on the 75 but I never liked them...too many metal fatigue failures of mounting tabs, they stuck up too high,plus my hangar mate pointed out to me that there were large gaps all aroundthe eyebrows, as well as in the rear and at the spark plug holes. So... I nowhave repro Cub eyebrows and they fit very snugly all around. I also installedrubber seals around the spark plug access holes to contain the cooling air.This is shown on my website, here:> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/eyebrows.html> > I do not have CHT readout on my engine, but I think I now have the cooling basescovered as well as I can.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 165#424165> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Oscar, did you lower your eye borows to give a lower profile or did they come lower.Gardiner. Also do you need the I inner cyl baffles?Sent from my iPad> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:25 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Jeff; that's the reason I asked the question. My A65 had cooling eyebrows butdidn't have intercylinder baffles. I added those later. When I changed enginesI took the eyebrows off the 65 and put them on the 75 but I never liked them...too many metal fatigue failures of mounting tabs, they stuck up too high,plus my hangar mate pointed out to me that there were large gaps all aroundthe eyebrows, as well as in the rear and at the spark plug holes. So... I nowhave repro Cub eyebrows and they fit very snugly all around. I also installedrubber seals around the spark plug access holes to contain the cooling air.This is shown on my website, here:> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/eyebrows.html> > I do not have CHT readout on my engine, but I think I now have the cooling basescovered as well as I can.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 165#424165> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I realize it won't solve the problem of trying o maintain a more level fuselageangle and still get the angle of attack on the wing right. but as long as theCG figures prove it to be safe would you not think about putting a few poundst the tail post? might give you a little better indication of how it will performwith more neutral stick pressure but for sure the thrust angle will be lookingup. but then I have no doubt t has been anyway since you have to maintainthat wing angle to get the needed lift. I really like the look of the engine.beautiful classic - how do you think the thrust compares with a continentalor the lowly corvair? Raymond- GN-1/vairRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
I realize it won't solve the problem of trying o maintain a more level fuselageangle and still get the angle of attack on the wing right. but as long as theCG figures prove it to be safe would you not think about putting a few poundst the tail post? might give you a little better indication of how it will performwith more neutral stick pressure but for sure the thrust angle will be lookingup. but then I have no doubt t has been anyway since you have to maintainthat wing angle to get the needed lift. I really like the look of the engine.beautiful classic - how do you think the thrust compares with a continentalor the lowly corvair? Raymond- GN-1/vairRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Did the Frazier Lake gathering happen this past weekend? Is there news, or pictures?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Did the Frazier Lake gathering happen this past weekend? Is there news, or pictures?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Some Pictures:Pietenpol's ParkedAll of us ateScott had to exercise to burn off the calories before he could flyAnd fly he did....No pictures of Oscar, so sad he missed the fun. Maybe next year.-----Original Message-----
Some Pictures:Pietenpol's ParkedAll of us ateScott had to exercise to burn off the calories before he could flyAnd fly he did....No pictures of Oscar, so sad he missed the fun. Maybe next year.-----Original Message-----