Original Posted By: "GrantZ"
I have measured each piston and bore.. very consistent . I'm using 283 chevy .060over pistons with rods from Antique Engine Rebuilding made for this setup withmodern bearings. I put one new piston in and all new rings last time. Thering gap was .020. these are cam ground.its been mentioned that I should go back to Model A pistons..I'm not sure I believethey would be better in any way, just different unless I'm totally missingsomething. Dan is flying with pretty much the same engine and seems to be OK thanks for the inputJeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Control horn location
Pietenpol-List: Rudder Control horn location
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
I have noticed that some folks place their rudder horn below the horizontal stabrather than above as per plan. Seems that would make cable routing easier butwhat about changes in torsion load on the rudder mair spar? I am certain Mr.Pietenpol had a reason for his location but additional understanding would beuseful.Thoughts and comments on advantages or disadvantages of each location appreciatedas I am ready to mount my horn.ThanksGrant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I have noticed that some folks place their rudder horn below the horizontal stabrather than above as per plan. Seems that would make cable routing easier butwhat about changes in torsion load on the rudder mair spar? I am certain Mr.Pietenpol had a reason for his location but additional understanding would beuseful.Thoughts and comments on advantages or disadvantages of each location appreciatedas I am ready to mount my horn.ThanksGrant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Control horn location
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
My horns are below, built that way in 1976, several hundred flight hours. Don'tknow of advantages or disadvantages.Sent from an iPhone with a spelling problem> On Jun 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, "GrantZ" wrote:>>> I have noticed that some folks place their rudder horn below the horizontal stabrather than above as per plan. Seems that would make cable routing easierbut what about changes in torsion load on the rudder mair spar? I am certainMr. Pietenpol had a reason for his location but additional understanding wouldbe useful.>> Thoughts and comments on advantages or disadvantages of each location appreciatedas I am ready to mount my horn.>>> Thanks> Grant Ziebell> Savannah, TN>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________
My horns are below, built that way in 1976, several hundred flight hours. Don'tknow of advantages or disadvantages.Sent from an iPhone with a spelling problem> On Jun 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, "GrantZ" wrote:>>> I have noticed that some folks place their rudder horn below the horizontal stabrather than above as per plan. Seems that would make cable routing easierbut what about changes in torsion load on the rudder mair spar? I am certainMr. Pietenpol had a reason for his location but additional understanding wouldbe useful.>> Thoughts and comments on advantages or disadvantages of each location appreciatedas I am ready to mount my horn.>>> Thanks> Grant Ziebell> Savannah, TN>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use ofthe intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If the reader of this message is not the intendedrecipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distributionor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictlyprohibited.If you have received this message in error, please contactthe sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of theoriginal message (including attachments).________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Control horn location
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Grant, you are correct in that placing the horn in the middle makes foreasier loading of the rudder. The primary advantages of moving the hornbelow the stabilizer are:1) More direct routing of the rudder cables2) Easy to connect a steerable tailwheelThe problems with moving it below the stabilizer are:1) More difficult to inspect the cable connections to the horn2) Potentially for overloading the rudder spar from tailwheel loads (notsure I even believe this)I built mine to the plans and can easily inspect the cables on everypreflight. However, building to the plans required a separate set of cablesfrom the rudder bar to the tailwheel for tailwheel steering, adding weightto an already tailheavy airplane.I think either way would be fine, but the purists will cringe.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake (W91) Virginia-----Original Message-----
Grant, you are correct in that placing the horn in the middle makes foreasier loading of the rudder. The primary advantages of moving the hornbelow the stabilizer are:1) More direct routing of the rudder cables2) Easy to connect a steerable tailwheelThe problems with moving it below the stabilizer are:1) More difficult to inspect the cable connections to the horn2) Potentially for overloading the rudder spar from tailwheel loads (notsure I even believe this)I built mine to the plans and can easily inspect the cables on everypreflight. However, building to the plans required a separate set of cablesfrom the rudder bar to the tailwheel for tailwheel steering, adding weightto an already tailheavy airplane.I think either way would be fine, but the purists will cringe.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake (W91) Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Control horn location
Original Posted By: "GrantZ"
Hi Stephen A full sized iron along with a modeler's iron. At the hobby store where you get the modeler's iron get a thermometer for calibration. Right tools for the job. You're going to progressively shrink your fabric three different times, each time higher temp. Make some small framed test panels.Sent from my iPhone> On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Steven Dortch wrote:> > Gee Scott, Quit waffling and give me your opinion. I saw the warning on the Ceconite website about using an Iron. Then I watched a video where a guy uses a heatgun like an artist. Since I ain't no Douwe, I guess I will use an Iron. Will it screw up my wife's iron?> > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:ity.org>>> >> I need to say this very loudly. I'm screaming now. DO NOT use a heat gun. You will have many problems. There is know way to control the heat. It can warp your structure, burn holes in the fabric and just look awful. I'm sure I have missed a bunch of other stuff. Just use the iron and you will be happy. You worked too hard on the structure to rush in the end and have something you won't be proud of.>> >> Please use an iron. Respectfully,>> >> -------->> Scott Liefeld>> Flying N11MS since March 1972>> Steel Tube>> C-85-12>> Wire Wheels>> Brodhead in 1996>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 057#425057>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==========>> br> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> MS ->> k">http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>> e ->> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ==========> > > > -- > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Control horn location
Hi Stephen A full sized iron along with a modeler's iron. At the hobby store where you get the modeler's iron get a thermometer for calibration. Right tools for the job. You're going to progressively shrink your fabric three different times, each time higher temp. Make some small framed test panels.Sent from my iPhone> On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Steven Dortch wrote:> > Gee Scott, Quit waffling and give me your opinion. I saw the warning on the Ceconite website about using an Iron. Then I watched a video where a guy uses a heatgun like an artist. Since I ain't no Douwe, I guess I will use an Iron. Will it screw up my wife's iron?> > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote:ity.org>>> >> I need to say this very loudly. I'm screaming now. DO NOT use a heat gun. You will have many problems. There is know way to control the heat. It can warp your structure, burn holes in the fabric and just look awful. I'm sure I have missed a bunch of other stuff. Just use the iron and you will be happy. You worked too hard on the structure to rush in the end and have something you won't be proud of.>> >> Please use an iron. Respectfully,>> >> -------->> Scott Liefeld>> Flying N11MS since March 1972>> Steel Tube>> C-85-12>> Wire Wheels>> Brodhead in 1996>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 057#425057>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==========>> br> -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> MS ->> k">http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>> e ->> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ==========> > > > -- > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Control horn location
Re: Pietenpol-List:
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Thanks to all. Good comments. I think I will leave horn unmounted until ready to rig cables, then decide.Mike Perez - additional photos would be much appreciatedThanks again.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Thanks to all. Good comments. I think I will leave horn unmounted until ready to rig cables, then decide.Mike Perez - additional photos would be much appreciatedThanks again.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Re: Pietenpol-List:
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Yes I got a little excited. Then I saw the other more tactful replies. Your wife'siron may work. The trouble with most new irons are attorneys. Some won't gethot enough and others have a built in timer that shuts it off after a periodof time. Get a candy thermometer to calibrate it. Also use the same extensioncord every time so the temp are repeatable. Just mark the dial with marks youunderstand. Like maybe 1, 2 and 3 for the different settings you need. You mayneed to try a couple of different irons to find one you like. I'm glad you laughed rather than cry after reading my rant. Have fun. Covering was the best part most fun for me.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:03:58 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Yes I got a little excited. Then I saw the other more tactful replies. Your wife'siron may work. The trouble with most new irons are attorneys. Some won't gethot enough and others have a built in timer that shuts it off after a periodof time. Get a candy thermometer to calibrate it. Also use the same extensioncord every time so the temp are repeatable. Just mark the dial with marks youunderstand. Like maybe 1, 2 and 3 for the different settings you need. You mayneed to try a couple of different irons to find one you like. I'm glad you laughed rather than cry after reading my rant. Have fun. Covering was the best part most fun for me.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:03:58 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: