Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
William,At lunch time today I ran the Riblett 30-612 airfoil data through a two dimensionalanalysis software that is, from what I understand, more reliable than theEppler code Mr. Riblett used back in the day. At a Reynolds number appropriatefor 75 mph cruise speeds and a 60" chord it gives an angle of attack of 1.104degrees for a cruise lift coefficient of .55. The Eppler code and my eyeballingthe CL off of Mr. Riblett's graph must have been close. When you do thecalculations, the front cabanes should be .45" shorter than the rear cabanes basedon these values.Doug WrightStillwater, OKRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Hello good Piet-ple,I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wingspars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had built it.So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out the sparat each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the spar itselfin lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN I REALIZEDWE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only goodnews about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars so thenew rear spars should be a bit lighter....!Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress" :-)JakeAttached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefully removingit......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/remo ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Hello good Piet-ple,I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wingspars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had built it.So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out the sparat each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the spar itselfin lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN I REALIZEDWE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only goodnews about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars so thenew rear spars should be a bit lighter....!Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress" :-)JakeAttached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefully removingit......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/remo ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Jake,Well, I guess it was good experience, in preparation for the spar that counts!I know your pain as I had to replace a spar last year. I was very glad that I didnot glue my ribs to the spar!GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Jul 14, 2014, at 12:26 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > > Hello good Piet-ple,> > I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wingspars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had builtit. > > So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out thespar at each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the sparitself in lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN IREALIZED WE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!> > Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only goodnews about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars sothe new rear spars should be a bit lighter....!> > Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress"
> > Jake> > Attached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefullyremoving it......> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 657#426657> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/remo ... ar_345.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Jake,Well, I guess it was good experience, in preparation for the spar that counts!I know your pain as I had to replace a spar last year. I was very glad that I didnot glue my ribs to the spar!GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Jul 14, 2014, at 12:26 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > > Hello good Piet-ple,> > I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wingspars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had builtit. > > So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out thespar at each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the sparitself in lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN IREALIZED WE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!> > Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only goodnews about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars sothe new rear spars should be a bit lighter....!> > Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress"
> > Jake> > Attached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefullyremoving it......> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 657#426657> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/remo ... ar_345.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Original Posted By: "Mike McGowan"
That's better than building two right or two left wings Jake but none the less, feel your frustration.Mike C.Ohio________________________________________________________________________________
That's better than building two right or two left wings Jake but none the less, feel your frustration.Mike C.Ohio________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair College
Original Posted By: wheelharp
I am Mike McGowan Hallsville Mo I'm available to help-----Original Message-----
I am Mike McGowan Hallsville Mo I'm available to help-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Jon,I wanted to point out to everyone that the sign up pages and information sheetsfor both Corvair College #30 and #31 can be found at this link:http://flycorvair.net/2014/06/19/corvai ... /Pietenpol builders should feel more than welcome at #30, even though it is beingheld September 16-19 at the Zenith factory in Mexico MO. Sebastien Heintz, presidentof Zenith is a friend of ours, and he always points out that all homebuildersare welcome at any event at his facility, not just Zenith customers.I have not looked at the sign up sheet closely (it is taken care of online byKen Pavlou), but the event was 50% full last week, and we usually have a numberof Piet builders at every college.-------------------------------------------------------------------College #31 is November 7-9 at Barnwell SC, with Pietenpol builder and flyer PFBeck and crew. Pietenpols are well represented at Barnwell events, and Don Harper'splane is based there as well.------------------------------------------------Kevin Purtee and Shelley Tumino, aka "Axle and the IT-girl" , who will be at Brodhead,hosted Colleges #28 and #22 in Texas. We had a good turn out of Piet buildersat both, because the local hosts always tend to draw a lot of buildersfrom their own group of aviation friends who are working on the same airframe.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:36:33 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Jon,I wanted to point out to everyone that the sign up pages and information sheetsfor both Corvair College #30 and #31 can be found at this link:http://flycorvair.net/2014/06/19/corvai ... /Pietenpol builders should feel more than welcome at #30, even though it is beingheld September 16-19 at the Zenith factory in Mexico MO. Sebastien Heintz, presidentof Zenith is a friend of ours, and he always points out that all homebuildersare welcome at any event at his facility, not just Zenith customers.I have not looked at the sign up sheet closely (it is taken care of online byKen Pavlou), but the event was 50% full last week, and we usually have a numberof Piet builders at every college.-------------------------------------------------------------------College #31 is November 7-9 at Barnwell SC, with Pietenpol builder and flyer PFBeck and crew. Pietenpols are well represented at Barnwell events, and Don Harper'splane is based there as well.------------------------------------------------Kevin Purtee and Shelley Tumino, aka "Axle and the IT-girl" , who will be at Brodhead,hosted Colleges #28 and #22 in Texas. We had a good turn out of Piet buildersat both, because the local hosts always tend to draw a lot of buildersfrom their own group of aviation friends who are working on the same airframe.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:36:33 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College
Original Posted By: "Barnwell Regional Airport"
You will definately enjoy Corvair College! While I have not been to the Zenithfactory CC yet, I have attended the past 4 at Barnwell and this year will be#5.William Wynn's web site(s) have a ton a articles about prior colleges, what toexpect and what to bring with you - Above all bring a positive attitude!Enjoy!--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
You will definately enjoy Corvair College! While I have not been to the Zenithfactory CC yet, I have attended the past 4 at Barnwell and this year will be#5.William Wynn's web site(s) have a ton a articles about prior colleges, what toexpect and what to bring with you - Above all bring a positive attitude!Enjoy!--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks.....
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
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