Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Had a beautiful day here (Northern KY) yesterday so decided to bop over tothe airport for an evening patrol. My 15 year-old daughter is now an avidpassenger after firmly resisting the idea for years. She went with me andwe did the "river run" which means following the Licking River south fromFalmouth for about ten miles to the high tension lines where we turn aroundthe come back skimming the fields. Saw a bunch of deer in the corn, a hugeflock of birds skimming the river, had a very close encounter with a buzzardand got to watch the men starting to harvest the tobacco. Gave them a buzzjob with smoke and I don't think a single one even looked up. what gives!(tobacco harvesting is a PIA, so maybe they were exhausted)Flew back to find stranded Stearman that needed a "jump". The lawnmowerbattery (not kidding) wasn't quite up to more than three starts, so I gavethem a jump from my car and send them on their way. It was purchased for ayoung man with some physical disabilities and he was bringing it home fromVA with a friend. It was awesome to see a young American still up for anadventure for it was a pretty "ratty" Stearman, they had just covered it upwith a fresh coast of yellow dope, but beneath it all, it looked like it hadjust stopped dusting fields for the last fifty years. In other words, itwas a GREAT plane! Not your usual pampered, glossy artificial lookingStearman we're used to seeing these days, but a REAL working plane. Safe,but ugly.Keep building, it's worth it!!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "tools"
Douwe,Thanks for the info, I will keep it in mind and will have a great starting point if the Stromberg does not work out. I have a lot of experience with the AeroCarb, over 450 hours!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> > Ray,> > Don=99t take my comments wrongly, I really liked the aerocarb and it is what ended up on the plane for =9Cflying day=9D rather than the weber or the ford carb because I loved the simplicity. I had zero problems with it. All I meant is that you have to come up with a different starting procedure than a standard designed carb. Now that you jogged my memory, I think I started it just like you do. It always worked great and there were very few moving parts.> > As I said, I never got to put flying hours on it, but it seems well worth trying on a ford as it really isn=99t too expensive. > > I used three carbs on the test stand and chose that one to go with.> > Douwe> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Douwe,Thanks for the info, I will keep it in mind and will have a great starting point if the Stromberg does not work out. I have a lot of experience with the AeroCarb, over 450 hours!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> > Ray,> > Don=99t take my comments wrongly, I really liked the aerocarb and it is what ended up on the plane for =9Cflying day=9D rather than the weber or the ford carb because I loved the simplicity. I had zero problems with it. All I meant is that you have to come up with a different starting procedure than a standard designed carb. Now that you jogged my memory, I think I started it just like you do. It always worked great and there were very few moving parts.> > As I said, I never got to put flying hours on it, but it seems well worth trying on a ford as it really isn=99t too expensive. > > I used three carbs on the test stand and chose that one to go with.> > Douwe> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
William,Thanks for the assistance on this issue. Here is the info you needed.1) 100 hp Corvair with 2 bladed Warp Drive prop2) 174 inches from front of firewall to tail post. I have added 2 inches to thefirst bay of the long fuselage version to get a little more leg room3) Let's use 225 to allow for some winter flying clothes. Normal summer weightshouldbe a max of 215Thanks again for the help. I look forward to seeing the full calculation.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
William,Thanks for the assistance on this issue. Here is the info you needed.1) 100 hp Corvair with 2 bladed Warp Drive prop2) 174 inches from front of firewall to tail post. I have added 2 inches to thefirst bay of the long fuselage version to get a little more leg room3) Let's use 225 to allow for some winter flying clothes. Normal summer weightshouldbe a max of 215Thanks again for the help. I look forward to seeing the full calculation.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVwHope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVwHope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Nice, Jeff! I tried a tail-mounted camera, too, and got way too muchvibration. Yours isn't too bad.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Nice, Jeff! I tried a tail-mounted camera, too, and got way too muchvibration. Yours isn't too bad.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
For those not on Facebook.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttAXGGc ... e=youtu.be Gary BootheNX308MB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
For those not on Facebook.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttAXGGc ... e=youtu.be Gary BootheNX308MB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Jeffery,Absolutely beautiful!Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Notethe first couple of views right after takeoff.You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tailwheel easier to operate.Thanks for the great inspiration,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:> > http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw> > Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 680#429680> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Jeffery,Absolutely beautiful!Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Notethe first couple of views right after takeoff.You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tailwheel easier to operate.Thanks for the great inspiration,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:> > http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw> > Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 680#429680> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: Doug
Hi Ray,Thanks for the kind words. I just got lucky -- the beauty was there for the camera.My wife noticed that face, too. Sort of a Bert and Ernie look.Yep, my rudder control horns are below the horizontal stab. I didn't build theplane originally (though I've disassembled/reassembled it twice and rebuilt theforward fuselage once). I have always thought that the Skyscout was a very, very cool airplane. Do youhave any pix of yours? What will you power it with? I've also always wonderedif, given that I've been told it's the same design as the Aircamper but weighless, how many Gs can it take?JeffRay Krause wrote:> Jeffery,> > Absolutely beautiful!> > Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Notethe first couple of views right after takeoff.> > You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tailwheel easier to operate.> > Thanks for the great inspiration,> > Ray Krause> > Sent from my iPad> > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > > > > > > Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:> > > > http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw> > > > Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!> > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 680#429680> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Ray,Thanks for the kind words. I just got lucky -- the beauty was there for the camera.My wife noticed that face, too. Sort of a Bert and Ernie look.Yep, my rudder control horns are below the horizontal stab. I didn't build theplane originally (though I've disassembled/reassembled it twice and rebuilt theforward fuselage once). I have always thought that the Skyscout was a very, very cool airplane. Do youhave any pix of yours? What will you power it with? I've also always wonderedif, given that I've been told it's the same design as the Aircamper but weighless, how many Gs can it take?JeffRay Krause wrote:> Jeffery,> > Absolutely beautiful!> > Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Notethe first couple of views right after takeoff.> > You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tailwheel easier to operate.> > Thanks for the great inspiration,> > Ray Krause> > Sent from my iPad> > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > > > > > > Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:> > > > http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw> > > > Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!> > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 680#429680> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Boy, that's beautiful, Ray. Congratulations. I'd forgotten how cool the landinggear is on a Scout.As to comparing to an Aeronca, I trained and got my ticket in a Champ, and havea few hours in them otherwise. For the equipment I've flown anyway, my Piet ismuch more nimble and has a greater ROC. It may be slower. Here's what I seeon the ASI with ~10 gal fuel and one 160 lb pilot on warm summer evenings (say,90F and high humidity):2000 rpm = 60 mph (a little slow)2100 rpm = 65 mph (just right)2200 rpm = 70 mph (just right)2300 rpm = 75 mph (a little fast)2400 rpm = 80 mph (too fast)2500 rpm = 85-90 mph (way too fast)This particular Piet has always felt unhappy when going more than 75 mph (or Ishould say, the pilot feels unhappy), regardless of whether powered by worn-outA-65 or a low-time C-85 and regardless of what prop, so I very rarely do that.Most of my flying is around 60-70 mph.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Boy, that's beautiful, Ray. Congratulations. I'd forgotten how cool the landinggear is on a Scout.As to comparing to an Aeronca, I trained and got my ticket in a Champ, and havea few hours in them otherwise. For the equipment I've flown anyway, my Piet ismuch more nimble and has a greater ROC. It may be slower. Here's what I seeon the ASI with ~10 gal fuel and one 160 lb pilot on warm summer evenings (say,90F and high humidity):2000 rpm = 60 mph (a little slow)2100 rpm = 65 mph (just right)2200 rpm = 70 mph (just right)2300 rpm = 75 mph (a little fast)2400 rpm = 80 mph (too fast)2500 rpm = 85-90 mph (way too fast)This particular Piet has always felt unhappy when going more than 75 mph (or Ishould say, the pilot feels unhappy), regardless of whether powered by worn-outA-65 or a low-time C-85 and regardless of what prop, so I very rarely do that.Most of my flying is around 60-70 mph.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Nice cowl work, Ray!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Nice cowl work, Ray!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Do you recognize the 12" frying pan on the nose? Thanks, it is even better nowwith some added mods. Hope it works out.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > > Nice cowl work, Ray!!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Do you recognize the 12" frying pan on the nose? Thanks, it is even better nowwith some added mods. Hope it works out.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > > Nice cowl work, Ray!!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Thanks for the compliment, Jeff. We will see if it is deserved when it flies. I'm about two years into it and probably have another two to go! I plan on starting to rig it this month. My dear friend, Merle, just made the strut end fittings this week. They have to be cut to length as needed. He is a retired machinist and master plane builder. He is also my welder and general consultant and fixer when I screw up.....could not do it without him.The landing gear is pretty neat, but is pretty springy! The phot has a solid pipe going between the legs so I can keep it level so it does not hit the ceiling. With the engine and wings on, the gear "should" be level. Putting the springs in the suspensions tubes is a dangerous job, could loose an eye, or worse. I will have to add a safety cable between the top and bottom pieces of the suspension tubes in case the retaining bolts break in flight. That would be a terrible situation...no gear to land on!The gear, wheels and fuselage are all made to plans. But I think the gear is too long because the deck angle is about 12 degrees. That is pretty close to the stall angle, right? What is your deck angle on the ground? At what angle does your plane stall. Maybe I will just have to do all wheel landing, three pointers may be out! It would be a major job to change the gear! The drawing of the completed plane on the plans, although it is drawn level, would be about 12 degrees by my "guessing".The joys of plans building a plane!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 7:03 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> y.edu>> > Boy, that's beautiful, Ray. Congratulations. I'd forgotten how cool the landing gear is on a Scout.> > As to comparing to an Aeronca, I trained and got my ticket in a Champ, and have a few hours in them otherwise. For the equipment I've flown anyway, my Piet is much more nimble and has a greater ROC. It may be slower. Here's what I see on the ASI with ~10 gal fuel and one 160 lb pilot on warm summer evenings (say, 90F and high humidity):> > 2000 rpm = 60 mph (a little slow)> 2100 rpm = 65 mph (just right)> 2200 rpm = 70 mph (just right)> 2300 rpm = 75 mph (a little fast)> 2400 rpm = 80 mph (too fast)> 2500 rpm = 85-90 mph (way too fast)> > This particular Piet has always felt unhappy when going more than 75 mph (or I should say, the pilot feels unhappy), regardless of whether powered by worn-out A-65 or a low-time C-85 and regardless of what prop, so I very rarely do that. Most of my flying is around 60-70 mph.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 759#429759> > > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks for the compliment, Jeff. We will see if it is deserved when it flies. I'm about two years into it and probably have another two to go! I plan on starting to rig it this month. My dear friend, Merle, just made the strut end fittings this week. They have to be cut to length as needed. He is a retired machinist and master plane builder. He is also my welder and general consultant and fixer when I screw up.....could not do it without him.The landing gear is pretty neat, but is pretty springy! The phot has a solid pipe going between the legs so I can keep it level so it does not hit the ceiling. With the engine and wings on, the gear "should" be level. Putting the springs in the suspensions tubes is a dangerous job, could loose an eye, or worse. I will have to add a safety cable between the top and bottom pieces of the suspension tubes in case the retaining bolts break in flight. That would be a terrible situation...no gear to land on!The gear, wheels and fuselage are all made to plans. But I think the gear is too long because the deck angle is about 12 degrees. That is pretty close to the stall angle, right? What is your deck angle on the ground? At what angle does your plane stall. Maybe I will just have to do all wheel landing, three pointers may be out! It would be a major job to change the gear! The drawing of the completed plane on the plans, although it is drawn level, would be about 12 degrees by my "guessing".The joys of plans building a plane!Thanks,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 7:03 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> y.edu>> > Boy, that's beautiful, Ray. Congratulations. I'd forgotten how cool the landing gear is on a Scout.> > As to comparing to an Aeronca, I trained and got my ticket in a Champ, and have a few hours in them otherwise. For the equipment I've flown anyway, my Piet is much more nimble and has a greater ROC. It may be slower. Here's what I see on the ASI with ~10 gal fuel and one 160 lb pilot on warm summer evenings (say, 90F and high humidity):> > 2000 rpm = 60 mph (a little slow)> 2100 rpm = 65 mph (just right)> 2200 rpm = 70 mph (just right)> 2300 rpm = 75 mph (a little fast)> 2400 rpm = 80 mph (too fast)> 2500 rpm = 85-90 mph (way too fast)> > This particular Piet has always felt unhappy when going more than 75 mph (or I should say, the pilot feels unhappy), regardless of whether powered by worn-out A-65 or a low-time C-85 and regardless of what prop, so I very rarely do that. Most of my flying is around 60-70 mph.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 759#429759> > > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ray,FYI...with my first tailwheel, my deck angle was about 13deg, and I had allsorts of landing troubles. Now it's about 11 deg, and life is much better!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Ray,FYI...with my first tailwheel, my deck angle was about 13deg, and I had allsorts of landing troubles. Now it's about 11 deg, and life is much better!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Did you just raise the tail by using a higher tail wheel set up? Or is the landingimprovement a result of the newer style tail wheel? You did not change thelanding gear, right?Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > > Ray,> > FYI...with my first tailwheel, my deck angle was about 13deg, and I had all> sorts of landing troubles. Now it's about 11 deg, and life is much better!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Did you just raise the tail by using a higher tail wheel set up? Or is the landingimprovement a result of the newer style tail wheel? You did not change thelanding gear, right?Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > > Ray,> > FYI...with my first tailwheel, my deck angle was about 13deg, and I had all> sorts of landing troubles. Now it's about 11 deg, and life is much better!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame andwent with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything backfar enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and thetail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that Iwould ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would staystraight and true!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame andwent with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything backfar enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and thetail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that Iwould ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would staystraight and true!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle by extending the tail wheel,raising the tail.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay> straight and true!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle by extending the tail wheel,raising the tail.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay> straight and true!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Douwe,When the rain started we checked the radar and bugged out. I feel for the organizerswho work so hard. At about 6 oclock that evening it was a grand exodusfrom the airport.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Douwe,When the rain started we checked the radar and bugged out. I feel for the organizerswho work so hard. At about 6 oclock that evening it was a grand exodusfrom the airport.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Sorry Ray, I don't know what my deck angle is at stall or sitting on the ground.I might play around with it on the next flight, though and report back![quote="Ray Krause"]Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle by extendingthe tail wheel, raising the tail.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay> straight and true!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > --Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Sorry Ray, I don't know what my deck angle is at stall or sitting on the ground.I might play around with it on the next flight, though and report back![quote="Ray Krause"]Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle by extendingthe tail wheel, raising the tail.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay> straight and true!> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > --Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Jeff,I've heard from several and my deck angle on the ground is not too far off fromothers. I will study it further, but would like to know about yours, if you everfind out.Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > Sorry Ray, I don't know what my deck angle is at stall or sitting on the ground.I might play around with it on the next flight, though and report back!> > [quote="Ray Krause"]Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle byextending the tail wheel, raising the tail.> > Ray> > Sent from my iPad> > >> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:>> >> Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and>> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back>> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the>> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I>> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay>> straight and true!>> >> Gary Boothe>> NX308MB>> >> >> --> > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 812#429812> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:13:39 +0000 (UTC)
Jeff,I've heard from several and my deck angle on the ground is not too far off fromothers. I will study it further, but would like to know about yours, if you everfind out.Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:> > > Sorry Ray, I don't know what my deck angle is at stall or sitting on the ground.I might play around with it on the next flight, though and report back!> > [quote="Ray Krause"]Thanks, Gary. I will see if I can raise the deck angle byextending the tail wheel, raising the tail.> > Ray> > Sent from my iPad> > >> On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:>> >> Landing gear has not been changed...yet. I removed the BHP style A-frame and>> went with typical spring and Matco tail wheel. That moved everything back>> far enough to allow me to use a direct hook up between the rudder and the>> tail wheel. The reduced deck angle was a fortunate side effect. Not that I>> would ever do it, but one could drop in from 5' and the tail would stay>> straight and true!>> >> Gary Boothe>> NX308MB>> >> >> --> > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 812#429812> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:13:39 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Jim,The struts came from a friend of Gary's in Lincoln who had maybe twenty individual pieces. I probably paid about market value, but no shipping cost. So it was a great deal. Both front and rear struts will be the same size, the larger size.The end fittings we're made from 1 X 1" square stock (Online Metals). It fits right into the ribs of the struts. Now I just have to measure, drill and install. No problem!Hope this helps a little.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > HI Ray,> > What struts are you using and where did you get the aluminium for the end fittings? Thanks, JIm B.> > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________
Jim,The struts came from a friend of Gary's in Lincoln who had maybe twenty individual pieces. I probably paid about market value, but no shipping cost. So it was a great deal. Both front and rear struts will be the same size, the larger size.The end fittings we're made from 1 X 1" square stock (Online Metals). It fits right into the ribs of the struts. Now I just have to measure, drill and install. No problem!Hope this helps a little.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > HI Ray,> > What struts are you using and where did you get the aluminium for the end fittings? Thanks, JIm B.> > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: More Smoke
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
A great evening for flying! Temp in the mid 90=92s=85no wind! This was a =BD & =BDmixture of ATF and baby oil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be Gary BootheNX308MB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Smoke
A great evening for flying! Temp in the mid 90=92s=85no wind! This was a =BD & =BDmixture of ATF and baby oil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be Gary BootheNX308MB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Smoke
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Very nice! I think the ATF/baby oil gives more fluffiness. Or were you openingthe spigot more?> A great evening for flying! Temp in the mid 90sno wind! This was a & mixtureof ATF and baby oil.> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be) > > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Very nice! I think the ATF/baby oil gives more fluffiness. Or were you openingthe spigot more?> A great evening for flying! Temp in the mid 90sno wind! This was a & mixtureof ATF and baby oil.> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7banO ... e=youtu.be) > > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Smoke
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright
Same spigot opening, Jeff. I'll let the ATF burn out and switch to mineral oilor real smoke oil. Hardly any blow back on the plane this time, though!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Same spigot opening, Jeff. I'll let the ATF burn out and switch to mineral oilor real smoke oil. Hardly any blow back on the plane this time, though!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Jim,I will measure tomorrow and let you know, I may be short on a couple.Do you have your plane all covered, now? Or are you just getting to the rigging? I will bet it is absolutely beautiful.Tomorrow,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray,> > I need four pieces 6 inches long. If you have that many I will gladly buy them from you.> > Jim> > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 02:40:12 +0000 (UTC)
Jim,I will measure tomorrow and let you know, I may be short on a couple.Do you have your plane all covered, now? Or are you just getting to the rigging? I will bet it is absolutely beautiful.Tomorrow,RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Jim Boyer wrote:> > Hi Ray,> > I need four pieces 6 inches long. If you have that many I will gladly buy them from you.> > Jim> > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 02:40:12 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Evening flight
Original Posted By: Bill Budgell