Pietenpol-List: OUR forum

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Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Hey all,I completely agree that we all need to work to elevate the "tone" of OURforum. For many, many months now, I've been troubled by the slide from anupbeat, light and informative group to a more negative, nit-picky andsour-sounding one.I know for a fact this is the reason that many of the older members haveremoved themselves. As has been observed, this is a shame because they arethe very people who patiently answered my questions for ten years while Ibuilt.It is not necessary to be negative in any way, nor is it necessary to beoverly sensitive and response to every single thing posted that we don'tlike. It is VERY possible to counter bad-advice or incorrect information ina nice way without getting into a personal "p----ssing contest".If someone posts something stupid or dangerous, then we should certainlyrespond; but we should respond to the information rather than the person.And if they are jerks, and freak out when anyone confronts them or has adifferent opinion.. Let it go. or take it off list so we don't all have toread twenty emails going back and forth about little issues, grammarmistakes, personality issues etc.Maybe it would be helpful to come up with a list of "List etiquettesuggestions" here's my start.1. NEW BUILDERS "NEWBIES" ARE IMPORTANT, SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND AREONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE LIST EXISTS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PIETBUILDERS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW BUILDERS, THEY WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTIONSYOU ASKED WHEN YOU WERE A NEW BUILDER AND THEY WONT KNOW ABOUT, OR MIGHT NOTFIND THE ANSWER EASILY IN THE ARCHIVE.2. IF DIVERSE OPINIONS ARE HELD, ADDRESS/FOCUS ON THE ISSUE RATHERTHAN THE INDIVIDUAL.3. STAY POSITIVE, HELPFUL AND GENTLEMANLY (GENTLEWOMANLY)4. BEAR WITH THE ANNOYING PEOPLE, THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR. IF YOU MUSTCONFRONT THEM, DO IT OFF THE LIST5. IF SOMEONE PERSISTS ON USING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, IMMEDIATELYCONTACT MATT DRALLE AND HAVE THEM WARNED/BLOCKED6. ??I think we'd all do well to remember grandmas advice, IF YOU DON'T HAVEANYTHING NICE TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OUR forum

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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I agree whole-heartedly, Douwe. Remember that the reason the FAA allowsExperimental Aviation to exist is for Education and Recreation. This listshould serve the same purpose.I suppose I'm one of the "old-timers" on this list, in that I was on theoriginal Pietenpol list that Steve Eldridge created and then transitioned toMatronics, back about 1997. In that time I've seen many builders come andgo, some real screwballs (Fisherman Ray comes to mind), and have gained alot of really good friends that I never would have met otherwise. There'san awful lot of good information on this list, with the occasional piece ofbad information. It doesn't take too long to figure out who is worthlistening to, and who is not.I like the suggestion that before hitting "Send" every lister who haswritten a post should imagine themselves expounding on this topic at a forumat Brodhead, or Oshkosh. I've presented forums (fora?) at both and believeme, it is a humbling experience. Now, all you builders get off your computers and back to the workshop andmake some sawdust!Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

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Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Jim,Just as it is inappropriate to yell "fire" in a crowded theater, I believe thatit is inappropriate to use the "f-word" in a public forum. I have two daughters , one 18, and the other 22. I get it that kids at that agethink the f-word is no big deal. But I, and most others on this forum grew upat a different time. I am no prude when it comes to that word. It is bandied about the cockpit everytime I fly and has been for 30+ years. But I wouldn't walk out into the cabinand greet my passengers with "How the f**k are ya?" Since you asked, that is my penny and a half.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:16:58 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: OUR forum

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Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Mike,I didn't see the attached photos. Please repost. Thanks!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: OUR forum

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Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
Steve,In the Marine Corps I have heard the word used as a noun, a verb, an adjective,as well as an adverb.All in the same sentence!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: OUR forum

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Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Just goes to show the extreme versatility and adaptability of a properly trainedMarine. We had similar training in the navy.Sent from my iPhone> On Aug 20, 2014, at 3:46 PM, "jarheadpilot82" wrote:> > > Steve,> > In the Marine Corps I have heard the word used as a noun, a verb, an adjective,as well as an adverb.> > All in the same sentence!> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 911#428911> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________