Original Posted By: "tools"
Aero engineer, Seattle... c'mon Brian... spill the beans...We're dying to see some honeycomb used somewhere in a Piet!Have ya been to or planning on Brodhead? Been up in a Piet yet? I gave THREErides this year to guys WELL along in a Piet project (ok, one was already DONE,legal to fly!) and had never even been in one. Surely we can help ya find someone fairly local or on one of your regular travelroutes.Welcome aboard!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Pietenpol-List: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Yes, the front spars have no routing. I do not have the height number, but theyare about 0.9" thick. My rear spars are a full 1.0" and were routed with 1/4"deep pockets.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Yes, the front spars have no routing. I do not have the height number, but theyare about 0.9" thick. My rear spars are a full 1.0" and were routed with 1/4"deep pockets.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Original Posted By: Craig Aho
Tools,Great to know that we can buy sandpaper that doesn't wear out and odd sizes canbe had. I like it. One question though, Who or where is this place? Maybeyou said but I don't see it. Maybe (bad reading comprehension)that's why I didn'tdo so well in school when I was a kid? Hope you don't have sore ribs after this poking.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Tools,Great to know that we can buy sandpaper that doesn't wear out and odd sizes canbe had. I like it. One question though, Who or where is this place? Maybeyou said but I don't see it. Maybe (bad reading comprehension)that's why I didn'tdo so well in school when I was a kid? Hope you don't have sore ribs after this poking.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
Original Posted By: "tools"
I did not shim, but eventually tweaked the horizontal leading edges up. Keep in mind, if you shim the horizontal stab, you may have to adjust the vert stab mounting brackets, so that the rudder still aligns with the tail post.GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Aug 19, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Steven Dortch wrote:> > This is Steve D. When I got the plane there was THE SHIM and I questioned John and the group on if it was needed. The learned consensus was yes, it is needed. It is on the plans just as a note that says "Shim between longerons and leading edge."> > Chuck do a simple google search using "Matronics Pietenpol and Shim" and you can read the whole discussion. When I get home I will measure the one I have.> > Steve D> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:>> So, John, how much did you shim between the horiz stab and the fuselage? You gave a response but didn't say how much shim there was. Chuck>> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Johnkuhfahl wrote:>>> For Steve-- here we go again-- got that piece I gave you-- I never did see that on the plans...>>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, "Charles N. Campbell" wrote:>>> >>>> On the tail plan sheet there is a note, "Screw stabilizer to fuselage, after covering, with 1-3/4" screws. SHIM BETWEEN LEADING EDGE AND LONGERON." The stab plan shows a piece of 3/16" plywood on the leading edge where the stab attaches to the fuselage. I already have a piece of 1/8" plywood to fill the gap between the rounded part of the leading edge and the 1/2" X 3/4" part of the leading edge. Now, should I shim the stab with a 1/16' shim to make up the 3/16" shown on the plan or is there a thicker shim in addition to the 3/16" piece of plywood. The plan doesn't cover that. OK some of you guys who are already flying, what did you do? Chuck>>>> >>>> >>>> =========>>>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>>> =========>>>> cs.com>>>> =========>>>> matronics.com/contribution>>>> =========>>>> >>> >>> >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>> tp://forums.matronics.com>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>>> >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ttp://forums.matronics.com>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> > > > > -- > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
I did not shim, but eventually tweaked the horizontal leading edges up. Keep in mind, if you shim the horizontal stab, you may have to adjust the vert stab mounting brackets, so that the rudder still aligns with the tail post.GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Aug 19, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Steven Dortch wrote:> > This is Steve D. When I got the plane there was THE SHIM and I questioned John and the group on if it was needed. The learned consensus was yes, it is needed. It is on the plans just as a note that says "Shim between longerons and leading edge."> > Chuck do a simple google search using "Matronics Pietenpol and Shim" and you can read the whole discussion. When I get home I will measure the one I have.> > Steve D> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:>> So, John, how much did you shim between the horiz stab and the fuselage? You gave a response but didn't say how much shim there was. Chuck>> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Johnkuhfahl wrote:>>> For Steve-- here we go again-- got that piece I gave you-- I never did see that on the plans...>>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, "Charles N. Campbell" wrote:>>> >>>> On the tail plan sheet there is a note, "Screw stabilizer to fuselage, after covering, with 1-3/4" screws. SHIM BETWEEN LEADING EDGE AND LONGERON." The stab plan shows a piece of 3/16" plywood on the leading edge where the stab attaches to the fuselage. I already have a piece of 1/8" plywood to fill the gap between the rounded part of the leading edge and the 1/2" X 3/4" part of the leading edge. Now, should I shim the stab with a 1/16' shim to make up the 3/16" shown on the plan or is there a thicker shim in addition to the 3/16" piece of plywood. The plan doesn't cover that. OK some of you guys who are already flying, what did you do? Chuck>>>> >>>> >>>> =========>>>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>>> =========>>>> cs.com>>>> =========>>>> matronics.com/contribution>>>> =========>>>> >>> >>> >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>> tp://forums.matronics.com>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>>> >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ttp://forums.matronics.com>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> > > > > -- > Blue Skies,> Steve D> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood bending irony... but great sandpaper source
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Oh... would help if I included the link, huh?!http://www.woodworkingshop.com/html/em_ ... n2.htmlTry that! It's Klingspor, of the sanding company.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Oh... would help if I included the link, huh?!http://www.woodworkingshop.com/html/em_ ... n2.htmlTry that! It's Klingspor, of the sanding company.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________