Original Posted By: "Carl Loar"
Hello,Says guys, I know this subject has been brought up beforebut I was wondering if there was any new thought or ideason wing gap seals.I have a Grega and understand the gap between the aileronsand the wing's trailing edge is wider than on a plans built Piet.I have a friend who is a member of a soaring club and saysthey use various types of tape and mylar for the gliders.Usually it is used on the day they fly. When finished, it istaken off and discarded until. They next time they fly they use fresh tape to cover the slight gaps.I called Knauff & Grove Soaring Supplies and talked to manthere. He says he gets these kinds of calls all the time. He saidhe would not use tape as it might come loose and create a spoilerand/or jam into the gaps. He said they tape may not stick well tothe paint of the fabric for a long period of time and when it comesloose, it would take paint off the aircraft.He recommended getting strong parachute material and gluing iton.So I don't know which way to go. I would like to get betteraileron roll response and feel covering the gaps would enhancebetter performance.Any suggestions, drawings and ideas are welcome.Thanks again guys.Mike KingGN-177MKDallas, Texas214 905-9299________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
William,Here is the additional info you requested:MML: I have not yet built my motor mount so I can make it so that MML is 33".Prop flange to rearmost protrusion on the motor is about 29-3/4" so 33" willbe about right.PSL: 80". Difference is due to additional 2" in first bay plus I raked the seatback a little more for comfort. I am using a 1/4" ply firewall.Thanks again for your assistance.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:29:41 -0400Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
William,Here is the additional info you requested:MML: I have not yet built my motor mount so I can make it so that MML is 33".Prop flange to rearmost protrusion on the motor is about 29-3/4" so 33" willbe about right.PSL: 80". Difference is due to additional 2" in first bay plus I raked the seatback a little more for comfort. I am using a 1/4" ply firewall.Thanks again for your assistance.Grant ZiebellSavannah, TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:29:41 -0400Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Tools,Please count me in!Grant ZiebellSavannah TNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
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Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Don't think you need gap seals for any part of the tail....plenty of elevator and rudder control.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:29 AM, "Charles N. Campbell" wrote:> > If I can find some 1" square balsa wood I'm planning to make gap seals for my elevators and rudder. I already have full-length piano hinges for the ailerons which will provide gap seals for the ailerons. My question is this. Which is best, putting the gap seal on the elevators and rudder or on the vertical and horizontal stabilizer? Or does it matter which? It seems from a non-aeronautical perspective that the seal would be better on the movable surfaces. Anyone have any experience with this type of seal? Another question just popped into my mind. Rather than use balsa could the seal be made from plastic foam? The seals would be covered during the covering process, but would the foam be too prone to being dented by dings of some sort? Any insight into this would be appreciated. Chuck> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 14:50:25 -0400
Don't think you need gap seals for any part of the tail....plenty of elevator and rudder control.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhone> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:29 AM, "Charles N. Campbell" wrote:> > If I can find some 1" square balsa wood I'm planning to make gap seals for my elevators and rudder. I already have full-length piano hinges for the ailerons which will provide gap seals for the ailerons. My question is this. Which is best, putting the gap seal on the elevators and rudder or on the vertical and horizontal stabilizer? Or does it matter which? It seems from a non-aeronautical perspective that the seal would be better on the movable surfaces. Anyone have any experience with this type of seal? Another question just popped into my mind. Rather than use balsa could the seal be made from plastic foam? The seals would be covered during the covering process, but would the foam be too prone to being dented by dings of some sort? Any insight into this would be appreciated. Chuck> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 14:50:25 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
Original Posted By: "Andre B. Charvet"
If you're up for it.. while in Florence, SC..look up Dr. James Hodges. He has 413hrs in my GN-1, until he wrecked it May 17, 2000 while taking off there. Ibought the airframe a decade later after Fred Dexter rebuilt it (restorer of wrongway Corrigan's Curtis Robin) He may have some good flying stories. He currentlyflies a Pober Pixie. I spoke with him briefly after I bought said airframeand he sent me the wreck photos. His #843-669-4963Larry--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:13:19 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals
If you're up for it.. while in Florence, SC..look up Dr. James Hodges. He has 413hrs in my GN-1, until he wrecked it May 17, 2000 while taking off there. Ibought the airframe a decade later after Fred Dexter rebuilt it (restorer of wrongway Corrigan's Curtis Robin) He may have some good flying stories. He currentlyflies a Pober Pixie. I spoke with him briefly after I bought said airframeand he sent me the wreck photos. His #843-669-4963Larry--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:13:19 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seals