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Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Kit For sale
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Kit For sale
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Mike;You asked about whether you should build the cabane struts splayed or keep themvertical if you build a wider flop section than standard. My two cents: keepthem vertical, for two reasons: (1) if you keep them vertical, you can tiltthem back if you need to adjust the wing position relative to the CG to get itwhere you want it. If you build them splayed, the geometry will not readilypermit that adjustment. It can be done, but not as easily. (2) if you keep themvertical, all of the fittings remain as per plans with less fussing with angles.Structurally, I don't think there is much difference but it's a little easier toanalyze forces in members that are perpendicular to the load imposed on them(vertical cabanes).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:28:43 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Kit For sale
Mike;You asked about whether you should build the cabane struts splayed or keep themvertical if you build a wider flop section than standard. My two cents: keepthem vertical, for two reasons: (1) if you keep them vertical, you can tiltthem back if you need to adjust the wing position relative to the CG to get itwhere you want it. If you build them splayed, the geometry will not readilypermit that adjustment. It can be done, but not as easily. (2) if you keep themvertical, all of the fittings remain as per plans with less fussing with angles.Structurally, I don't think there is much difference but it's a little easier toanalyze forces in members that are perpendicular to the load imposed on them(vertical cabanes).--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:28:43 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Kit For sale