Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Steve,I've been flying in wind some too. One time I landed and Danville, Paand the guys on the ground said it looked like I might have rolled 50ftmax. That might have been 15 to 20 knots wind, not what you experienced.I suppose the Peit airframe will stand more than we are willing tosubject our bodies to.Craig________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Piets
Pietenpol-List: RE: Piets
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
On Friday, April 10, 1998 9:43 PM, allaire [SMTP:allaire(at)MCIONE.com] wrote:> Steve;> .just checked out "Steve's Hanger" website-nice Piets! Question; where and> what are the snow covered little hills in the backgrounds of the> photographs? Also, what kind of tailwheel did you use?> Earl MyersThe "hills" in the background are the Wasatch range in the Rocky Mountains. I fly out of Spanish Fork Airport (U77) in Utah Valley. Nearby peaks are near 12,000'. I did an altitude run Saturday and got up to 10,500 before I got too cold. I was still climbing at about 200 fpm. Later in the afternoon, I took off for a round of touch and goes, and could not get down. At 300' still on crosswind, the plane shuddered with a thump. I thought I had been hit. I started a quick check of all my controls, looking for somthing to have broken, but found nothing, however it was in that same second that I realized that I was in a deep crab to compensate for a strong southerly wind. All I can figure is that I was hit by a solid gust I actually felt. It was weird, not like any kind of turbulence I have felt before.Anyway I was holding over a 30 degree crab to stay on course. On downwind I checked the three wind socks and soon realized that landing would be much different that the takeoff. Wind was holding that sock straight out and gusting. I flew final at 500' still crabbed at a rediculas angle. I made one more pass. This time at 50' hoping the wind was less strong close to the ground. No luck it was as bad or worse. I could see several people on the ground looking up at me. Several cars were clustered together. I know what they had on their minds and I decided that there was not going to be a show. I had just topped the tank and decided to wait it out or divert to another airport. Worst case I could pick a field and put it in directly into the wind. Unfortunaly it was then that I realized that my cell phone was in my truck. I picked a northly heading towards Provo. GPS read 94mph I cruise at 70. Twenty-four mph! man this was going to be a new experience in this light of an aircraft. It reminded me of a landing in Rock Spring WY one spring with 55knots down the runway. Only I was in a 210 at the time. I arrived at Provo in no time. There was no traffic, very unussual on a Saturday afternoon. --That is unless there is hurricane force winds!! :0 Downwind leg happened in a second as I lined up with runway 18. I swept through base to final and the airplane seemed to stop. I sat at 1000' a half mile from the runway. Carb heat and throttle to idle. I had an eternity it seemed to stay lined up. I kept my speed up to 65 until just before touchdown. After a brief flare I touched down at what must have been less than 20 mph. No screech of the tires this time. Taxiing like a turtle I apologized to anyone who may have had to wait behind me. After tieing down I checked with the FBO and found that AWOS was reporting wind 190 degrees @ 26knots peak gusts @ 39. Needless to say my piet is still tied down at Provo. It took the rest of the afternoon collecting my truck and getting home, and securing the airplane, but I'm glad to say nothing was damaged and I am a little more the wiser! I do have to say that I am even more confident in Bernie's design. That big rudder comes in handy.Steve Eldredge________________________________________________________________________________
On Friday, April 10, 1998 9:43 PM, allaire [SMTP:allaire(at)MCIONE.com] wrote:> Steve;> .just checked out "Steve's Hanger" website-nice Piets! Question; where and> what are the snow covered little hills in the backgrounds of the> photographs? Also, what kind of tailwheel did you use?> Earl MyersThe "hills" in the background are the Wasatch range in the Rocky Mountains. I fly out of Spanish Fork Airport (U77) in Utah Valley. Nearby peaks are near 12,000'. I did an altitude run Saturday and got up to 10,500 before I got too cold. I was still climbing at about 200 fpm. Later in the afternoon, I took off for a round of touch and goes, and could not get down. At 300' still on crosswind, the plane shuddered with a thump. I thought I had been hit. I started a quick check of all my controls, looking for somthing to have broken, but found nothing, however it was in that same second that I realized that I was in a deep crab to compensate for a strong southerly wind. All I can figure is that I was hit by a solid gust I actually felt. It was weird, not like any kind of turbulence I have felt before.Anyway I was holding over a 30 degree crab to stay on course. On downwind I checked the three wind socks and soon realized that landing would be much different that the takeoff. Wind was holding that sock straight out and gusting. I flew final at 500' still crabbed at a rediculas angle. I made one more pass. This time at 50' hoping the wind was less strong close to the ground. No luck it was as bad or worse. I could see several people on the ground looking up at me. Several cars were clustered together. I know what they had on their minds and I decided that there was not going to be a show. I had just topped the tank and decided to wait it out or divert to another airport. Worst case I could pick a field and put it in directly into the wind. Unfortunaly it was then that I realized that my cell phone was in my truck. I picked a northly heading towards Provo. GPS read 94mph I cruise at 70. Twenty-four mph! man this was going to be a new experience in this light of an aircraft. It reminded me of a landing in Rock Spring WY one spring with 55knots down the runway. Only I was in a 210 at the time. I arrived at Provo in no time. There was no traffic, very unussual on a Saturday afternoon. --That is unless there is hurricane force winds!! :0 Downwind leg happened in a second as I lined up with runway 18. I swept through base to final and the airplane seemed to stop. I sat at 1000' a half mile from the runway. Carb heat and throttle to idle. I had an eternity it seemed to stay lined up. I kept my speed up to 65 until just before touchdown. After a brief flare I touched down at what must have been less than 20 mph. No screech of the tires this time. Taxiing like a turtle I apologized to anyone who may have had to wait behind me. After tieing down I checked with the FBO and found that AWOS was reporting wind 190 degrees @ 26knots peak gusts @ 39. Needless to say my piet is still tied down at Provo. It took the rest of the afternoon collecting my truck and getting home, and securing the airplane, but I'm glad to say nothing was damaged and I am a little more the wiser! I do have to say that I am even more confident in Bernie's design. That big rudder comes in handy.Steve Eldredge________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Piets
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
On Friday, April 10, 1998 9:43 PM, allaire [SMTP:allaire(at)MCIONE.com] wrote:> Steve;> .just checked out "Steve's Hanger" website-nice Piets! Question; where and> what are the snow covered little hills in the backgrounds of the> photographs? Also, what kind of tailwheel did you use?> Earl MyersOh yea I use a matco 6" solid tailwheel, Duane uses a Heath (i think).Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
On Friday, April 10, 1998 9:43 PM, allaire [SMTP:allaire(at)MCIONE.com] wrote:> Steve;> .just checked out "Steve's Hanger" website-nice Piets! Question; where and> what are the snow covered little hills in the backgrounds of the> photographs? Also, what kind of tailwheel did you use?> Earl MyersOh yea I use a matco 6" solid tailwheel, Duane uses a Heath (i think).Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Piets
Original Posted By: "Hixon, Carl"
Boy Steve, that's some gorgeous territory behind your Piets. I surelike the mid-West checkerboard farmland for security but it would befun to see your area someday. MC________________________________________________________________________________
Boy Steve, that's some gorgeous territory behind your Piets. I surelike the mid-West checkerboard farmland for security but it would befun to see your area someday. MC________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Piets
Original Posted By: clawler
Steve, you are killing me!! I haven't flown since October.Great story. Keep me hangar flying. -Carl________________________________________________________________________________
Steve, you are killing me!! I haven't flown since October.Great story. Keep me hangar flying. -Carl________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
Wait till you guys take your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake BreakfastFly-Inand you park next to a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and allthe peopledrift over to poke their head in your cockpit.=A0Mike C----------------------My favorite was arriving just before a show because of being NORAD. Bythe time I taxied in they had already put up the crowd lines so I wasforced to park with the performers. And since my plane was on thatside I got to sit and chat with Art Scholl, Bob Hoover and such.I NEVER had to pay to attend an airshow when I flew the Piet. I wasalways ASKED to display my plane. Great way to live!!Bill S________________________________________________________________________________
Wait till you guys take your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake BreakfastFly-Inand you park next to a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and allthe peopledrift over to poke their head in your cockpit.=A0Mike C----------------------My favorite was arriving just before a show because of being NORAD. Bythe time I taxied in they had already put up the crowd lines so I wasforced to park with the performers. And since my plane was on thatside I got to sit and chat with Art Scholl, Bob Hoover and such.I NEVER had to pay to attend an airshow when I flew the Piet. I wasalways ASKED to display my plane. Great way to live!!Bill S________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
Wait till you guys take your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake BreakfastFly-Inand you park next to a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and all thepeopledrift over to poke their head in your cockpit. Mike C. >>>> That is so true I have been there. Want to find a Piet at a Fly-in,look for the crowd.Mike B ( Piet N687MB )Wait tillyou guystake your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake Breakfast Fly-Inand youpark nextto a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and all the peopledriftover topoke their head in your cockpit. Mike C.That is so trueI have beenthere. Want to find a Piet at a Fly-in, look for thecrowd.size3>Mike B ( Piet N687MB )size3>size3>________________________________________________________________________________
Wait till you guys take your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake BreakfastFly-Inand you park next to a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and all thepeopledrift over to poke their head in your cockpit. Mike C. >>>> That is so true I have been there. Want to find a Piet at a Fly-in,look for the crowd.Mike B ( Piet N687MB )Wait tillyou guystake your Piet/GN-1 to your first Pancake Breakfast Fly-Inand youpark nextto a gorgeous Stearman or Taylorcraft......and all the peopledriftover topoke their head in your cockpit. Mike C.That is so trueI have beenthere. Want to find a Piet at a Fly-in, look for thecrowd.size3>Mike B ( Piet N687MB )size3>size3>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: Alan Swanson
Steve I really loved your story. I think the piet is the sort ofairplane that just naturally attracts adventure.When I was in Camrosethere were a lot of very shiny and expensive airplanes there and yet theold Piet was among the most popular. I even had several people ask me ifI would pose by the prop and wear the helmut for pictures. Lots of kidsasked for rides and I answered a thousand questions. I should also apolagise for all the gramer and spelling mistakes aswhen I wrote this it was late. Thank you eveyone for your kind words.Long live the PietWayne Tokarz________________________________________________________________________________
Steve I really loved your story. I think the piet is the sort ofairplane that just naturally attracts adventure.When I was in Camrosethere were a lot of very shiny and expensive airplanes there and yet theold Piet was among the most popular. I even had several people ask me ifI would pose by the prop and wear the helmut for pictures. Lots of kidsasked for rides and I answered a thousand questions. I should also apolagise for all the gramer and spelling mistakes aswhen I wrote this it was late. Thank you eveyone for your kind words.Long live the PietWayne Tokarz________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
1. Does anyone have a set of prints for the "gapless" aileron mod from the lateGary Price? Just curious to see how he did it.2. I agree with Mike Cuy, the fledgling BPA newsletter has a lot of potential butwe all need to feed it info so it can become more than a list of who subscribedsince the last issue. Maybe we can get enough coverage about Pietenpols sothey won't have to ruin another cover with a GN-1 on it! Get with it guys!!3. I have a full set of the original BPANewsletters but a few have really poorquality pictures. I'd be willing to loan them to be scanned if nobody else comesforward with good ones.4. I hope to be flying this summer but probably not in time for B'head/OSH. Stillhave to finish up the wings and engine.LarryGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com________________________________________________________________________________
1. Does anyone have a set of prints for the "gapless" aileron mod from the lateGary Price? Just curious to see how he did it.2. I agree with Mike Cuy, the fledgling BPA newsletter has a lot of potential butwe all need to feed it info so it can become more than a list of who subscribedsince the last issue. Maybe we can get enough coverage about Pietenpols sothey won't have to ruin another cover with a GN-1 on it! Get with it guys!!3. I have a full set of the original BPANewsletters but a few have really poorquality pictures. I'd be willing to loan them to be scanned if nobody else comesforward with good ones.4. I hope to be flying this summer but probably not in time for B'head/OSH. Stillhave to finish up the wings and engine.LarryGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: "Larry Williams"
Hey Larry!Geeez... That is hilarious!!! So sanctimonious....You are asking for someone to send you a free copy of a "gapless" modsomebody developed so you can look at 'em.. Are you gonna "use the mod" orjust "modify someone else's mod?"In the very same e-mail you imply that the cover of the recent BPA letterthat was sent out was "ruined" by having a GN-1 on it. Frankly I thought itwas a well done publication ESPECIALLY since produced by volunteers and...c'mon, it was not ruined. Then you rally the troups with.. "Get with itguys?" Did YOU send them any pictures?Those of us that have been around a while have heard all this "look downyour nose at the GN-1 stuff) over and over.... Get over it! Some guycame up with a mod (actually lots of mods) and pretty much plagiarized adesign. So what! So the GN guys can't be in your club. There are a lot ofguys out there that have built, are building, or fly GN's that havecontributed a heck of a lot to this group.I'm outa here..I'll see ya'll around. I'll just go start my own club :>(Bert(whose building a GN-1 and has LOTS of friends who build or fly Piets - andlikes them anyway :>))----- Original Message -----
Hey Larry!Geeez... That is hilarious!!! So sanctimonious....You are asking for someone to send you a free copy of a "gapless" modsomebody developed so you can look at 'em.. Are you gonna "use the mod" orjust "modify someone else's mod?"In the very same e-mail you imply that the cover of the recent BPA letterthat was sent out was "ruined" by having a GN-1 on it. Frankly I thought itwas a well done publication ESPECIALLY since produced by volunteers and...c'mon, it was not ruined. Then you rally the troups with.. "Get with itguys?" Did YOU send them any pictures?Those of us that have been around a while have heard all this "look downyour nose at the GN-1 stuff) over and over.... Get over it! Some guycame up with a mod (actually lots of mods) and pretty much plagiarized adesign. So what! So the GN guys can't be in your club. There are a lot ofguys out there that have built, are building, or fly GN's that havecontributed a heck of a lot to this group.I'm outa here..I'll see ya'll around. I'll just go start my own club :>(Bert(whose building a GN-1 and has LOTS of friends who build or fly Piets - andlikes them anyway :>))----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets
Original Posted By: "Shawn"
I'm not even building a GN-1, but I'll go with you. Tired of the snobsalready. I don't care if they are building paper airplanes or B-25's, justas long as they are building and flying. Isn't that what it's suppose to beall about?MerrillMt. Dora, Fl________________________________________________________________________________
I'm not even building a GN-1, but I'll go with you. Tired of the snobsalready. I don't care if they are building paper airplanes or B-25's, justas long as they are building and flying. Isn't that what it's suppose to beall about?MerrillMt. Dora, Fl________________________________________________________________________________