Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh Camping

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Original Posted By: Michael Cuy
Subject: Re: Oshkosh Camping >How do people like me (Piet unfinished, flying a spam can to OSH)get >in on the camping there? or can we? I'd love to be able to bunkerdown >with all those Piet folk. > >Richard Richard- I should have mentioned that Bill needs to restrict this toPiet pilots and thier passengers. Here's the reason- he's got a camper of hisown on his site and with the site next to him accomodate about 15 total tents-the small kind. (this is via a phone conversation I had w/ him last eve.) I suspectthat we should be able to fill that up if all goes as planned, but if the responseis only 4 or 5 tent camper/pilots then we can always ask Bill about reserving that spotnext to him for a limited number of drive-in Piet folks. Don't quote me on that though ) Ithink your idea is great, but unfortunately until we get the late June 'head count' onPiets and Piet campers we will have to wait this out. As a side note to those of you driving and seeking decentrooms without spending a fortune, contact RIPON UNIVERSITY EAA housing and see what theyhave. Everybody wants to stay at the dorm rooms at Univ.Wisc. Osh, butguess what- they book those a year in advance it seems like. We have stayed (thisyear too) at Ripon an just loved it. About a 30-35 min. ride from Whittman Field andit is one of the nicest, quiet, peaceful little towns in Wisc. Not a ton of places to eat,etc. but just perfect for a bed, shower, and rest. Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Michael Cuy
Attention anyone who is flying their Piet/GN-1 into EAA '99for the 70th year Anniversary of the Pietenpol design.Bill Rewey will have space for several tent campers on his(prime....close to Theater In The Woods) campsite for Pietpilots and passengers. IF the tent camping numbers growbeyond say five to six tents (smaller two man type) then Billcan and will reserve the campsite next to his where anadditional 8 to 10 campers can stay. This extra site willcost Bill approx. $350 to reserve from July 1st. thru the conventionend. Why ? Bill lives a few hours from Osh and sets up hiscamper right after July 4th weekend thus insuring one of thebest (read closest) spots in the area. If there is enough interestBill will reserve this campsite July 1st so we will take a strawpoll then to see if it's worth his/our while to do so. Bill wouldcollect $15 per night then to defray his costs of the site.If we had ten campers stay two nights that would recoup$300 for him. We will see how things unfold. NOTE this year's new rule- ALL persons on the flightline MUSTbe EAA members !! You can join for a temporary 3 month dealon site or before, or join for a year. Whatever your flavor, then paythe daily flightline fees as spelled out in Sport Aviation.Bill is a super gentleman and has extended this offer to help makeour lives more comfortable at EAA. Please give this considerationand respond when I re-post this at the end of June. (Bill is not one-mail) All the Best, Michael Cuy________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
How do people like me (Piet unfinished, flying a spam can to OSH) getin on the camping there? or can we? I'd love to be able to bunker downwith all those Piet folk.Richard--- Michael Cuy wrote:> Attention anyone who is flying their Piet/GN-1 into EAA '99> for the 70th year Anniversary of the Pietenpol design.> Bill Rewey will have space for several tent campers on his> (prime....close to Theater In The Woods) campsite for Piet> pilots and passengers. IF the tent camping numbers grow> beyond say five to six tents (smaller two man type) then Bill> can and will reserve the campsite next to his where an> additional 8 to 10 campers can stay. This extra site will> cost Bill approx. $350 to reserve from July 1st. thru the convention> end. Why ? Bill lives a few hours from Osh and sets up his> camper right after July 4th weekend thus insuring one of the> best (read closest) spots in the area. If there is enough interest> Bill will reserve this campsite July 1st so we will take a straw> poll then to see if it's worth his/our while to do so. Bill would> collect $15 per night then to defray his costs of the site.> If we had ten campers stay two nights that would recoup> $300 for him. We will see how things unfold. > NOTE this year's new rule- ALL persons on the flightline MUST> be EAA members !! You can join for a temporary 3 month deal> on site or before, or join for a year. Whatever your flavor, then> pay> the daily flightline fees as spelled out in Sport Aviation.> Bill is a super gentleman and has extended this offer to help make> our lives more comfortable at EAA. Please give this consideration> and respond when I re-post this at the end of June. (Bill is not on> e-mail)> > All the Best, > Michael Cuy> > > > ===My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder....Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.-Psalm 55:6---------------------------------------------------------Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!---------------------------------------------------------________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Michael Cuy
Sign me up for that deal too!WarrenRichard DeCosta wrote:> How do people like me (Piet unfinished, flying a spam can to OSH) get> in on the camping there? or can we? I'd love to be able to bunker down> with all those Piet folk.>> Richard>> --- Michael Cuy wrote:> > Attention anyone who is flying their Piet/GN-1 into EAA '99> > for the 70th year Anniversary of the Pietenpol design.> > Bill Rewey will have space for several tent campers on his> > (prime....close to Theater In The Woods) campsite for Piet> > pilots and passengers. IF the tent camping numbers grow> > beyond say five to six tents (smaller two man type) then Bill> > can and will reserve the campsite next to his where an> > additional 8 to 10 campers can stay. This extra site will> > cost Bill approx. $350 to reserve from July 1st. thru the convention> > end. Why ? Bill lives a few hours from Osh and sets up his> > camper right after July 4th weekend thus insuring one of the> > best (read closest) spots in the area. If there is enough interest> > Bill will reserve this campsite July 1st so we will take a straw> > poll then to see if it's worth his/our while to do so. Bill would> > collect $15 per night then to defray his costs of the site.> > If we had ten campers stay two nights that would recoup> > $300 for him. We will see how things unfold.> > NOTE this year's new rule- ALL persons on the flightline MUST> > be EAA members !! You can join for a temporary 3 month deal> > on site or before, or join for a year. Whatever your flavor, then> > pay> > the daily flightline fees as spelled out in Sport Aviation.> > Bill is a super gentleman and has extended this offer to help make> > our lives more comfortable at EAA. Please give this consideration> > and respond when I re-post this at the end of June. (Bill is not on> > e-mail)> >> > All the Best,> > Michael Cuy> >> >> >> >>> ===> My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder> ....Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.-Psalm 55:6> ---------------------------------------------------------> Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!> ---------------------------------------------------------> ________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: greg(at)controlvision.com (Greg Yotz)
>How do people like me (Piet unfinished, flying a spam can to OSH) get>in on the camping there? or can we? I'd love to be able to bunker down>with all those Piet folk.>>RichardRichard- I should have mentioned that Bill needs to restrict this to Pietpilotsand thier passengers. Here's the reason- he's got a camper of his own on hissite and with the site next to him accomodate about 15 total tents- the smallkind.(this is via a phone conversation I had w/ him last eve.) I suspect that weshouldbe able to fill that up if all goes as planned, but if the response is only 4or 5 tentcamper/pilots then we can always ask Bill about reserving that spot next tohim for a limitednumber of drive-in Piet folks. Don't quote me on that though ) I think youridea isgreat, but unfortunately until we get the late June 'head count' on Piets andPiet camperswe will have to wait this out. As a side note to those of you driving and seeking decent rooms withoutspending a fortune, contact RIPON UNIVERSITY EAA housing and see what they have.Everybody wants to stay at the dorm rooms at Univ.Wisc. Osh, but guess what-theybook those a year in advance it seems like. We have stayed (this year too) atRiponan just loved it. About a 30-35 min. ride from Whittman Field and it is one ofthe nicest, quiet, peaceful little towns in Wisc. Not a ton of places to eat, etc. butjust perfectfor a bed, shower, and rest.Mike C. How do people like me (Piet unfinished, flying a spam can to OSH)getin on the camping there? or can we? I'd love to be able to bunkerdownwith all those Piet folk.RichardRichard- I should have mentioned that Bill needs to restrict this toPiet pilotsand thier passengers. Here's the reason- he's got a camper of hisown on hissite and with the site next to him accomodate about 15 total tents- thesmall kind.(this is via a phone conversation I had w/ him last eve.) I suspectthat we shouldbe able to fill that up if all goes as planned, but if the response isonly 4 or 5 tentcamper/pilots then we can always ask Bill about reserving that spotnext to him for a limitednumber of drive-in Piet folks. Don't quote me on that though:)) I think your idea isgreat, but unfortunately until we get the late June 'head count' on Pietsand Piet camperswe will have to wait this out. As a side note to those of you driving andseeking decent rooms without spending a fortune, contact RIPON UNIVERSITY EAA housing and see what theyhave.Everybody wants to stay at the dorm rooms at Univ.Wisc. Osh, but guesswhat- theybook those a year in advance it seems like. We have stayed (thisyear too) at Riponan just loved it. About a 30-35 min. ride from Whittman Field andit is one of the nicest, quiet, peaceful little towns in Wisc. Not a ton of places to eat,etc. but just perfectfor a bed, shower, and rest.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Michael Cuy
Michael, do you have a phone number handy for RIPON UNIVERSITY EAAhousing? And is there public ground transport available or do you haveto drive individually?Greg Yotz -----Original Message-----

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Original Posted By: Michael Cuy
Personally, I think the ablsoute BEST way to experience OSH is on floats.There are usually about 100-200 floatplanes at any given time moored inthe lagoon. You taxi up to the docks when you arrive and unload your gearputting it in a small mule cart. You're plane is then towed by one ofthier highly experienced volunteers to the mooring. They use a ratheringenious towing sustem that actually allows them to backup and rotateyour plane in any direction. The bridle system is also interesting. Itslides over each prop blade and is then held together by a third rope.Let's face it, after watching Patty Wagstaff do one of her verticalmaneuvers, it's easy to see that the prop hub is more than strong enough.The camp grounds are located under teh tree canopy away from the main baseand they have all the amenities of the main area plus swimming, if you canget over the look of the green water in Lake Winnabago. The green water isactually formed from a natural occuring algae that's infested the waterfor centuries. In fact, Winnabago is actually an Indian word meaning"smelly water". This will certainly bring a smile to your face the nexttime your stuck behind a Winnabago doing 45 mph on the freeway .There is a regular shuttle service to and from OSH. However, the last runis a little on the early side as we found out the hard way. Fortunately,one of the seaplane base volunteers passed us after we had walked about1/2 mile. He recognized us and offered us a lift. You gotta love thosepeople.The seaplane base also has it's own activities. When we arrived in '92, wewere just in time for the big BBQ sponsored by EDO. $5.00 bought you allthe steak you could eat and all the beer you could drink. After 6 days oftravelling, this was very welcome indeed. We were entertained by storiesfrom a veteran WWII female ferry pilot. She was very articulate and quiteenjoyable and was accompanied by a slide show of pictures she hadtaken.Unfortunately, her name escapes me.Arrival and departure procedures are a lot easier than OSH. First, thecontrol zone crossed right over the lagoon. This means that you can landduring the OSH airshow as long as you touch down outside the control zoneand taxi in. Second, there is no need to ever contact OSH. Sure makes iteasy.The only problem I had was with not being able to see more than a footbelow the surface, making it impossible to see the bottom or anyobstructions. Fortunately, a Beaver was in front of me and I knew that hedrafted more than the C-180 I was flying. I followed his wake right to thedock . Later we found out that there are now underwater obstructionsany where near the base. Anyway, enough rambling. If you have a choice of wheels of floats to OSH,I would certainly go the float route. Granted, that will kind of defeatthe whole "fly-in together" thing ;-)Later, KenOn Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Craig Lawler wrote:> Mike C.,> > To get the full experience of the show I really think it's important to> sleep under the wing and enjoy the showers, rain, heat, and ect. on the> field. I must admit we'll be there, but I think I'm going to wimp out.> We'll come in the 182. Pa to OSH is a little far. Might get lost with no> GPS,VORs, Arnav, IFR controllers, ect. Great Piet flying weather in Pa> lately. Lots of time in. Gave a 6 year old friend a ride the other> night. She had a blast. I had more fun though.> > Craig> > > ________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"Mike C.,To get the full experience of the show I really think it's important tosleep under the wing and enjoy the showers, rain, heat, and ect. on thefield. I must admit we'll be there, but I think I'm going to wimp out.We'll come in the 182. Pa to OSH is a little far. Might get lost with noGPS,VORs, Arnav, IFR controllers, ect. Great Piet flying weather in Palately. Lots of time in. Gave a 6 year old friend a ride the othernight. She had a blast. I had more fun though.Craig________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: Thomas E Bowdler
I would definatly go out of my way to see a piet on floats.Steve EldredgeIT ServicesBrigham Young University> -----Original Message-----> Behalf Of Ken> Beanlands> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:58 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Oshkosh Camping> > > Personally, I think the ablsoute BEST way to experience OSH > is on floats.> There are usually about 100-200 floatplanes at any given time > moored in> the lagoon. You taxi up to the docks when you arrive and > unload your gear> putting it in a small mule cart. You're plane is then towed by one of> thier highly experienced volunteers to the mooring. They use a rather> ingenious towing sustem that actually allows them to backup and rotate> your plane in any direction. The bridle system is also interesting. It> slides over each prop blade and is then held together by a third rope.> Let's face it, after watching Patty Wagstaff do one of her vertical> maneuvers, it's easy to see that the prop hub is more than > strong enough.> > The camp grounds are located under teh tree canopy away from > the main base> and they have all the amenities of the main area plus > swimming, if you can> get over the look of the green water in Lake Winnabago. The > green water is> actually formed from a natural occuring algae that's infested > the water> for centuries. In fact, Winnabago is actually an Indian word meaning> "smelly water". This will certainly bring a smile to your > face the next> time your stuck behind a Winnabago doing 45 mph on the freeway .> > There is a regular shuttle service to and from OSH. However, > the last run> is a little on the early side as we found out the hard way. > Fortunately,> one of the seaplane base volunteers passed us after we had > walked about> 1/2 mile. He recognized us and offered us a lift. You gotta love those> people.> > The seaplane base also has it's own activities. When we > arrived in '92, we> were just in time for the big BBQ sponsored by EDO. $5.00 > bought you all> the steak you could eat and all the beer you could drink. > After 6 days of> travelling, this was very welcome indeed. We were entertained > by stories> from a veteran WWII female ferry pilot. She was very > articulate and quite> enjoyable and was accompanied by a slide show of pictures she had> taken.Unfortunately, her name escapes me.> > Arrival and departure procedures are a lot easier than OSH. First, the> control zone crossed right over the lagoon. This means that > you can land> during the OSH airshow as long as you touch down outside the > control zone> and taxi in. Second, there is no need to ever contact OSH. > Sure makes it> easy.> > The only problem I had was with not being able to see more than a foot> below the surface, making it impossible to see the bottom or any> obstructions. Fortunately, a Beaver was in front of me and I > knew that he> drafted more than the C-180 I was flying. I followed his wake > right to the> dock . Later we found out that there are now underwater > obstructions> any where near the base. > > Anyway, enough rambling. If you have a choice of wheels of > floats to OSH,> I would certainly go the float route. Granted, that will kind > of defeat> the whole "fly-in together" thing > > Later, > Ken> > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Craig Lawler wrote:> > > Mike C.,> > > > To get the full experience of the show I really think it's > important to> > sleep under the wing and enjoy the showers, rain, heat, and > ect. on the> > field. I must admit we'll be there, but I think I'm going > to wimp out.> > We'll come in the 182. Pa to OSH is a little far. Might get > lost with no> > GPS,VORs, Arnav, IFR controllers, ect. Great Piet flying > weather in Pa> > lately. Lots of time in. Gave a 6 year old friend a ride the other> > night. She had a blast. I had more fun though.> > > > Craig> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: walter evans
>Let's face it, after watching Patty Wagstaff do one of her vertical>maneuvers, it's easy to see that the prop hub is more than strong enough.Well, the engine in your 180 might not be as strong as Patty Wagstaff'sLycoming IO-2Much-For-This-Engine, but 'tis a valid point nonetheless. ;)Ryan________________________________________________________________________________