Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:47:40 -0600
Pietenpol-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Pietenpol-List: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Original Posted By: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Original Posted By: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Original Posted By: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)Hi Listers,Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underwayand participation so far as been good. If you haven't made yourcontribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? Thecontinued operation and improvement of these services are directlyenabled by the generous contributions of its members.You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard usingthe Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contributionor with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!Best regards,Matt DralleEmail List Admin.-- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Emailhttp://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people...________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie question: Rudder Bar versus Pedals
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie question: Rudder Bar versus PedalsHere is my take of the topic,The "original" (1932) Flying And Glider Manual aircamper plans and the 1933 'improved' aircamper plans are very, very different. It is good to have both plans for general knowledge that they are different and for choosing which version best suits the builder. The two versions are smilar in stand off apearance, but are mega different. I chose to build the 1933 version. The rudder pedals, attachment,and swing is just one of the many differences in the two versions. The 1932 version pedals hang and perhaps a small return spring would help keep the cable somewhat taut. The 1933 version pedals hinge from the floor. A spring or take up system would no doubt work well. I used a solid method (a piece of thin wall steel tube) to connect the bar to the pedal. That is the way the two aircampers in the museums at Oshkosh are done. It works fine. My point is to study the differences between the two versions and my opinion (opinions are cheap) is to build one or the other. Maybe this will help a little.Doug Bryant Wichita, Ks ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie question: Rudder Bar versus PedalsHere is my take of the topic,The "original" (1932) Flying And Glider Manual aircamper plans and the 1933 'improved' aircamper plans are very, very different. It is good to have both plans for general knowledge that they are different and for choosing which version best suits the builder. The two versions are smilar in stand off apearance, but are mega different. I chose to build the 1933 version. The rudder pedals, attachment,and swing is just one of the many differences in the two versions. The 1932 version pedals hang and perhaps a small return spring would help keep the cable somewhat taut. The 1933 version pedals hinge from the floor. A spring or take up system would no doubt work well. I used a solid method (a piece of thin wall steel tube) to connect the bar to the pedal. That is the way the two aircampers in the museums at Oshkosh are done. It works fine. My point is to study the differences between the two versions and my opinion (opinions are cheap) is to build one or the other. Maybe this will help a little.Doug Bryant Wichita, Ks ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Newbie question: Rudder Bar versus Pedals
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Here's a solution...Don't bother putting rudder pedals in the front. They get in the way of anon-pilot passenger and a pilot in the front seat finds them veryuncomfortable to use. I'd just leave them out if I were doing it again.Stiring the stick is enough for most passengers. (until the pilot in backgets sick and takes over again.)Steve E.-----Original Message-----
Here's a solution...Don't bother putting rudder pedals in the front. They get in the way of anon-pilot passenger and a pilot in the front seat finds them veryuncomfortable to use. I'd just leave them out if I were doing it again.Stiring the stick is enough for most passengers. (until the pilot in backgets sick and takes over again.)Steve E.-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie question: Rudder Bar versus Pedals
Original Posted By: "Rodger & Betty Childs"
>>Here's a solution...>>Don't bother putting rudder pedals in the front. They get in the way of a>non-pilot passenger and a pilot in the front seat finds them very>uncomfortable to use. I'd just leave them out if I were doing it again.Right on Steve. I removed the controls from the front cockpit years ago. Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________
>>Here's a solution...>>Don't bother putting rudder pedals in the front. They get in the way of a>non-pilot passenger and a pilot in the front seat finds them very>uncomfortable to use. I'd just leave them out if I were doing it again.Right on Steve. I removed the controls from the front cockpit years ago. Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________